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bryan3000
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 Posted - 06/14/2013 : 00:06:00
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Dgreen,
Many of us are or have been members. It's far and away the best resource in the world or those who suffer from stress disorder. IMO. It's a veritable database of information gathered by real sufferers who overcame their symptoms. I searched out dozens of other sites before landing there and once I did, realized they were in another class as far as what they were offering. So, many of us back your endorsement.
It is certainly more behavioral in nature so some may balk at that. Some may also prefer to paint themselves into a "TMS" corner, believing they need to "uncork their rage" to heal, so for those it may not be for them.... at least until they are ready to address the fear of symptoms. |
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 06/14/2013 : 08:25:17
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Some may also prefer to paint themselves into a "TMS" corner, believing they need to "uncork their rage" to heal, so for those it may not be for them.... at least until they are ready to address the fear of symptoms.
For the record this is NOT a requirement to "heal" from TMS, and Dr. Sarno states so in ALL of his books. It's only necessary to understand his theory:
"Dr. John Sarno theorizes that TMS is a defensive reaction of the mind to prevent expression of repressed rage and anxiety and that the pain is created when blood flow to the tissues is restricted by the autonomic nervous system."
For the vast majority of TMS sufferers there is no need to dig into the past, only a small percentage of people need psychotherapy. Please read and understand the theory before making incorrect statements. The vast majority of people who come to this site have a physical symptom, get the theory and move on their happy way with the powerful TMS tool in their mindbody medicine cabinet. Those who don't usually have not understood the Good Doctor's theory, and rather then writing their own book continually nit-pick a very simple but powerful message for whatever their personal agenda or reason is. I would recommend reading Dr. Sarno's latest books, which have his most revised thoughts. Many of the nit-picks here are replied to in his later works, theories evolve and change like people can.
Cheers,
tt/lsmft
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DR. SARNO'S 12 DAILY REMINDERS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8D7w0IUIPU
www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0dKBFwGR0g
TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale
Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." Jiddu Krishnamurti
"Pain is inevitable; suffering is optional." Author Unknown
"Happy People Are Happy Putters." Frank Nobilo, Golf Analyst
"Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint." Mark Twain and Balto
"The hot-dog is the noblest of dogs; it feeds the hand that bites it." Dr. Laurence Johnston Peter
"...the human emotional system was not designed to endure the mental rigors of a tennis match." Dr. Allen Fox
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"If it ends with "itis" or "algia" or "syndrome" and doctors can't figure out what causes it, then it might be TMS." Dave the Mod =================================================
TMS PRACTITIONERS:
John Sarno, MD
400 E 34th St, New York, NY 10016
(212) 263-6035
Dr. Sarno is now retired, if you call this number you will be referred to his associate Dr. Rashbaum.
"...there are so many things little and big that are tms, I wouldn't have time to write about all of them": Told to icelikeaninja by Dr. Sarno
Here's the TMS practitioners list from the TMS Help Forum:
http://www.tmshelp.com/links.htm
Here's a list of TMS practitioners from the TMS Wiki:
http://tmswiki.org/ppd/Find_a_TMS_Doctor_or_Therapist
Here's a map of TMS practitioners from the old Tarpit Yoga site, (click on the map by state for listings).:
http://www.tarpityoga.com/2007_08_01_archive.html |
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art
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Posted - 06/14/2013 : 10:41:51
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Yes, TT, but that's not what Bryan said...His words were:
"Some may also prefer to paint themselves into a "TMS" corner, believing they need to "uncork their rage" to heal, "
My sense is that Bryan understands what's required to get better as well as anyone...He was only saying that some *believe* this to be the case...
And in fact plenty do. It's a common misconception, and it holds people back. |
Edited by - art on 06/14/2013 10:44:22 |
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tennis tom
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art
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dgreen97
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Posted - 06/15/2013 : 07:40:30
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tennis tom
USA
4749 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2013 : 08:26:39
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Originally posted by art
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Originally posted by tennis tom
Sorry, I'm not fluent in psychobabble.
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The ironic thing is that repressed rage and distraction theory are much more psychobabble-ish than simply counseling people to calm down.
OK, I'll try that:
"My back is killing me, the MRI's showed I have a burst disc, the doc says I'm bone on bone, I'm going in for fusion surgery Monday."
"Aw, there's NOTHING wrong with your back, you just need to simmer down, and you'll be alright. Talk to your wife about it."
"My wife, MY WIFE!--what does MY WIFE have to do with this? I'd divorce her if I could, but she'd take me to the cleaners."
"Just calm down now, your pain is caused by your head but is very real."
"Oh, I've heard of that crazy doctor who says it's all in my head, do I look like I'm CRAZY?"
"Now calm down now, doctor's don't know everything."
"WHAT DO YOU MEAN CALM DOWN!!! I AM CALM!!! CAN'T YOU SEE I'M CALM!!!
Cheers,
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tennis tom
USA
4749 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2013 : 08:43:23
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Originally posted by art
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Originally posted by tennis tom
Sorry, I'm not fluent in psychobabble.
The ironic thing is that repressed rage and distraction theory are much more psychobabble-ish than simply counseling people to calm down.
No, here's the definition of PSYCHOBABBLE, there's even been a book written about it, after review I may contact the author and invite him here to give some lessons: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/psychobabble
Dr. Sarno's theory is founded on well established and accepted psychological fundamentals.
Cheers,
tt/lsmft
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jaya
USA
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Posted - 06/17/2013 : 10:59:12
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| as always darko...you are dead on... |
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bryan3000
USA
513 Posts |
Posted - 06/17/2013 : 15:04:22
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The ironic thing is that repressed rage and distraction theory are much more psychobabble-ish than simply counseling people to calm down.
Ha ha!
Amen, Art.
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tennis tom
USA
4749 Posts |
Posted - 06/17/2013 : 16:56:04
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If you think I'm going to argue with people who've seen half the shrinks in the LA County phone book and buy ink by the barrel you're crazy!
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DR. SARNO'S 12 DAILY REMINDERS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8D7w0IUIPU
www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0dKBFwGR0g
TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale
Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
==================================================
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." Jiddu Krishnamurti
"Pain is inevitable; suffering is optional." Author Unknown
"Happy People Are Happy Putters." Frank Nobilo, Golf Analyst
"Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint." Mark Twain and Balto
"The hot-dog is the noblest of dogs; it feeds the hand that bites it." Dr. Laurence Johnston Peter
"...the human emotional system was not designed to endure the mental rigors of a tennis match." Dr. Allen Fox
======================================================
"If it ends with "itis" or "algia" or "syndrome" and doctors can't figure out what causes it, then it might be TMS." Dave the Mod =================================================
TMS PRACTITIONERS:
John Sarno, MD
400 E 34th St, New York, NY 10016
(212) 263-6035
Dr. Sarno is now retired, if you call this number you will be referred to his associate Dr. Rashbaum.
"...there are so many things little and big that are tms, I wouldn't have time to write about all of them": Told to icelikeaninja by Dr. Sarno
Here's the TMS practitioners list from the TMS Help Forum:
http://www.tmshelp.com/links.htm
Here's a list of TMS practitioners from the TMS Wiki:
http://tmswiki.org/ppd/Find_a_TMS_Doctor_or_Therapist
Here's a map of TMS practitioners from the old Tarpit Yoga site, (click on the map by state for listings).:
http://www.tarpityoga.com/2007_08_01_archive.html |
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When did TMS become a religion?
