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art
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 Posted - 08/03/2006 : 14:11:39
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So, part of me wonders if it's not the fear of being healthy and having all of your choices returned to you, that might be perpetuating this on some very unconscious level.
I think what Karen's going through is 100 percent normal and even predictable without looking for some dark "secondary gain" type motives.
She's really just starting out and has come a long way in a short time in my opinion.
And feet can be tough. Sarno writes that many have a tough time accepting foot pain as TMS because we're always on them, and "injuries" to them always make sense...
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Singer_Artist
USA
1516 Posts |
Posted - 08/03/2006 : 14:47:28
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Thank you everyone for your very helpful thoughts...I must say I can see ALL of your points and they are valid...I am going to read and re-read all your comments again until they sink in...I agree with Art that there is NO secondary gain involved in my situation...believe me..I cannot wait til I am playing tennis again, hiking again, singing again and just able to drive normally and bend...I hate being this way..I am a VERY active and athletic person..Working out is a joy to me, not a burden...I am very motivated and yes I think the gremlin is probably quite pissed that I have been making progress both emotionally and physically...And so as i said I am hoping the foot is totally TMS...And I think it is normal that I would wonder a bit as well...Reading your comments helps me have faith that I can get through it all!
thank you again and again... |
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Singer_Artist
USA
1516 Posts |
Posted - 08/03/2006 : 23:42:38
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| Wouldn't you know it, now my other foot is starting to hurt..I took one day off of my walk this morning because the foot wasn't up to it...I engaged in an activity that I haven't since 2 months ago when the neck TMS flared up...I would say I wasn't ready because the neck is reacting to it and I had to take pain meds, which I hate to do...My eating hasn't been good either so I know I am running from something painful inside...I REALLY want/need to do my walk tomorrow morning, all 40 minutes of it..I don't want to backslide into where I was a few weeks ago...I think I pushed myself too hard today and overdid this new activity...ARGGG this is sooo frustrating! Hopefully I will feel better tomorrow...I am talking to my brain saying I KNOW what you are up to, etc..the Gremlin is trying to take advantage of what I did today and make the symptoms really bad again..What a vicious cycle... |
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armchairlinguist
USA
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Posted - 08/04/2006 : 12:13:48
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Well, that answers your question about whether it's TMS...the silver lining to this cloud of the other foot hurting, it seems. Doesn't seem like much of a lining, I'm sure.
I know it seems counterintuitive and is incredibly difficult, but you definitely need to stop getting so worked up when your pain changes for the worse. That's what perpetuates the vicious cycle. You know you have TMS, you know you will get better eventually. Pushing yourself to get better fast, and perfectly, with no backtracking, is just another pressure that's strengthening the gremlin. Take these changes onto you lightly, and use them as encouragement to move forward at your own pace.
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Singer_Artist
USA
1516 Posts |
Posted - 08/04/2006 : 12:17:56
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Thanx ACL,
You always help me see things more clearly.. |
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Singer_Artist
USA
1516 Posts |
Posted - 08/04/2006 : 12:52:19
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PS...ACL,
I just wish I could get out of my own way sometimes...Because although it makes sense it is TMS going to my other foot (better today, btw)..The skeptical side of me is thinking well maybe my other foot is hurting because of compensation.I put more weight on it then usual compensating for the pain in the other foot...I did my 2 mile walk today and had to talk to myself regarding the pain the entire time, just to get through it..I am happy I did... |
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Dave
USA
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Posted - 08/04/2006 : 13:55:01
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Originally posted by Singer_Artist
..The skeptical side of me is thinking..
Tell that skeptic to shut up for awhile so you can focus on doing the work  |
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Singer_Artist
USA
1516 Posts |
Posted - 08/04/2006 : 14:13:05
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Good advice, Dave...thanx!  |
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Special One
USA
61 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2006 : 13:07:04
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| I just wanted to add that when my husband was a child he got hit by a car and broke his leg. It is turned out a little from that incident and he suffers no pain from the different angle. This tells me that we can be pain free even after an physical alteration. |
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Singer_Artist
USA
1516 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2006 : 20:51:29
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Thank you Special One..I really needed to hear that today..I went for my walk and couldn't make it after one mile..Very discouraging..The foot became very painful and started to affect my knee (the one that was previously seriously injured)..It is also hurting on my ankle in the same foot..don't know if it is the previous ankle sprain or just plain old TMS..
I am going through something very very emotional right now..I have met someone who I think could be my soul mate..This could mean moving clear across the country (NY) to be with him..I have wanted to move back but now that the reality may be upon me..other issues..such as leaving my roomie/bro are coming up..He is very sad at the possibility of me leaving and I hate to do anything that causes him pain..I feel responsible for him and for my dogs..And this phenomenal new soul in my life is terribly allergic to dogs! So I couldn't bring my dogs with me..The guilt in even the thought of leaving him here with my roomie is too much too bare..They are the children I never had...They love it here and my roomie loves them dearly...But...when I go away they go on a hunger strike and get really upset..I am their mom..Perhaps this conflict is causing the increase in the foot pain...I now and thinking of using the stationary bike at the gym til it heals and stopping the walk b4 I am limping even around the house...The pain becomes intolerable..I took an advil and now my stomach is killing me too..Sorry for rambling.. |
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Singer_Artist
USA
1516 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2006 : 21:00:48
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| PS....My whole leg never became the same after the last knee injury...It is visibly smaller then the other leg..Not my much but the quads and hamstrings are smaller and less strong then the other leg..That is why the foot is turned weird...Now it is turning into a whole mess...It has been like this for over a year,,,maybe even 2 years...So logically how could it be physical?? but it hurts so bad and if I have to stop my walks that will be terrible for the healing of my neck...I feel like i am in a Catch 22..just like in my real life... |
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chicago
85 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2006 : 18:14:58
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| I wore orthodics for eight years (5 different pairs) I stopped wearing them because I started to have burning pain in both feet. Guess what after I stopped wearing them my original problem (heal pain) went away. It was replaced with burning (10 years) and only in the last nine months has it started to improve because I threw away all my medication and read Sarno. Its not resolved but improved dramatically. What I'm left with now is FEAR. I've had pain so many years that I have a difficult time, however hard it is to believe living without it. |
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Singer_Artist
USA
1516 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2006 : 20:14:32
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Thanx Chicago,
Yes FEAR is a big one...I've heard it said that fear is "False Evidence Appearing Real.." Some older friends of mine often tell me that most of the things they spent soo much energy worrying about in life never even happened..SO much wisdom in that..I tried to stop wearing the orthodics one day and took my walk..It seemed worse..The pain in the arch spread to my achilles tendon and I was practically limping..So I put them back in..But I still feel like I should take everyone's advice and take them out again..It is so scary..And everyone is right, the TMS gremlin is just trying to sabotage the progress I have made in healing my neck by walking..Thanx everyone for sharing... |
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armchairlinguist
USA
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Posted - 08/08/2006 : 11:05:34
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My foot pain also got a little worse when I first stopped wearing the orthotics. It is just the conditioning kicking up. Your mind believes you will have worse pain if you don't wear them, so it happens.
I was doing pretty well on the primary stuff when I took mine out. I was definitely gradualist in removing my "TMS crutches" and the restrictions on my activity. But sometimes it may be good to go all out and send the signal to your brain that you are no longer believing any of that stuff. 
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Singer_Artist
USA
1516 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2006 : 11:41:31
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| Thank you ACL for sharing that with me...It gives me comfort! I am going to try to get to the gym and do the stationary bike or pool for a bit til the foot calms down..The neck is still healing too..Well actually I AM STILL HEALING..but it is happening, slowly and surely.. |
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chicago
85 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2006 : 22:04:16
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| A transition from custom orthodics might be wearing the soft type that you find at the drug store. In fact there have been studies that have shown that they are just as effective as custom ones. Howevwer I am no longer a believer in orthodics and I don't wear them. In fact I wish I never wore them. |
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Singer_Artist
USA
1516 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2006 : 22:39:32
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| Thanx Chicago! That's a great idea... |
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Singer_Artist
USA
1516 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2006 : 10:26:45
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| I got up at 4:30AM yesterday to go to the gym...I had 4 hours sleep..But had to go then when the roads were not crowded..Still have to turn my torso to make left/right turns...The workout went well overall..Just did lower body...The only trouble i had was adjusting the machines..(bending over) so i asked for help...The calf raises caused pain in my foot so i only did two sets...I sure hope it is TMS and just conditioning...The stationary bike was a good alternative to walking til the foot calms down...There are some potential huge changes going on and I refuse to allow the TMS Gremlin to freak out over them...They are both positive and also stressful...Typical of life i suppose... |
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FlyByNight
Canada
209 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2006 : 15:29:09
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Originally posted by Singer_Artist
Still have to turn my torso to make left/right turns...The workout went well overall..Just did lower body...
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I had the same exact reaction to my neck stiffness in the first months ... always moving torso to look sideways .... It is a verrrry bad thing to do Karen, because it encourages neurological motor patterns that are not natural and you can 'wrongly' reprogram your body to move in this non natural way... please stop it and try to move your neck normally ,, even if you must do it verrrry slowly ...
These bad habits are extremely hard to stop one they are installed...
P.
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Singer_Artist
USA
1516 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2006 : 16:37:29
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Thanx P,
I will take your advice...
~Karen |
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symptom imperative/foot pain
