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tennis tom
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 Posted - 06/05/2013 : 14:28:26
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Originally posted by bryan3000
Hey LA_Kevin,
There have been a couple of book sales tours that hit the forum pretty hard...
For the record: Bryan is referring to SteveO and Nicole. Bryan took it hard, no one else objected. They are now both highly thought of TMS authors, regular contributors here, and at the TMS Wiki.
Bryan, beautifully written post though, your fiction skills are unparalleled. You should write a TMS book, I would be the first to tout it.
Sorry for the interjection folks, just trying to keep the historic record straight, carry on.
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DR. SARNO'S 12 DAILY REMINDERS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8D7w0IUIPU
www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0dKBFwGR0g
TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale
Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." Jiddu Krishnamurti
"Pain is inevitable; suffering is optional." Author Unknown
"Happy People Are Happy Putters." Frank Nobilo, Golf Analyst
"Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint." Mark Twain and Balto
"The hot-dog is the noblest of dogs; it feeds the hand that bites it." Dr. Laurence Johnston Peter
"...the human emotional system was not designed to endure the mental rigors of a tennis match." Dr. Allen Fox
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"If it ends with "itis" or "algia" or "syndrome" and doctors can't figure out what causes it, then it might be TMS." Dave the Mod =================================================
TMS PRACTITIONERS:
John Sarno, MD
400 E 34th St, New York, NY 10016
(212) 263-6035
Dr. Sarno is now retired, if you call this number you will be referred to his associate Dr. Rashbaum.
"...there are so many things little and big that are tms, I wouldn't have time to write about all of them": Told to icelikeaninja by Dr. Sarno
Here's the TMS practitioners list from the TMS Help Forum:
http://www.tmshelp.com/links.htm
Here's a list of TMS practitioners from the TMS Wiki:
http://tmswiki.org/ppd/Find_a_TMS_Doctor_or_Therapist
Here's a map of TMS practitioners from the old Tarpit Yoga site, (click on the map by state for listings).:
http://www.tarpityoga.com/2007_08_01_archive.html |
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bryan3000
USA
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Posted - 06/05/2013 : 14:38:47
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Originally posted by jegol71
In addition to providing succor and assumed wisdom, a book if it is not to be derivative must operate with a clarity and precision that is not otherwise available. It's selfish to parrot what has been said in merely new packaging, but it is absolutely vital to share oneself as a resource if they have gestating within them something that hasn't been offered.
Sometimes repackaged material becomes new to an audience because of the writer's voice. I would argue that that material is new in the z-direction, and fulfills a need to at least someone in the anonymous infinity of people in pain.
I think the challenges to authors are great, as they must refine the material and clarify it.
Well put, Jegol. This is an intelligent, well-read bunch and as we've seen, the BS-meters do go off when people try to take advantage.
I suspect based on Kevin's past posts that he will have something helpful to offer.
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dgreen97
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Posted - 06/05/2013 : 14:56:50
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the only TMS book i've read so far that seemed like BS was zero pain now. That whole book and website screams "marketing". I bought the book and tried to ask him a question, he answered one time and when I sent another reply he said "if you need more help, think about upgrading to my support package". that entire book was a regurgitation of other TMS books and then 2 pages of "treatment". That would be the only book I felt like I was taken advantage of.
There's a difference between Steve Ozanich and Adam Heller. Read Steve's book the thing is a goldmine and every chapter has something good in it. I go back and reread chapters frequently. I mean seriously look at this website:
http://zeropainnow.com/
it looks like a website marketing viagra.
Oh I just listened to the video again heres what he says:
"My goal is to help 10 million people become pain free in 3 years. So I have to help you end your pain so I can reach my goal."
Does that sound like hes in it to help people banish their pain or to sell 10 million books?
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tennis tom
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Posted - 06/05/2013 : 15:01:17
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Originally posted by bryan3000
...the BS-meters do go off when people try to take advantage.
For the record Bryan, could you please name these anonymous TMS authors you are referring to who are trying to take economic advantage of vulnerable board members? I ask just so they won't be suckered into buying their books? There have been so many authors here, it may be difficult for newcomers and alumni to know which ones you are warning them to stay away from.
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bryan3000
USA
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Posted - 06/05/2013 : 16:01:47
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Originally posted by dgreen97
"My goal is to help 10 million people become pain free in 3 years. So I have to help you end your pain so I can reach my goal."
Does that sound like hes in it to help people banish their pain or to sell 10 million books?
LOL!!!
Yeah, some disguise their intentions better than others. At least he provided us all a good laugh. A few people challenged him to offer his "2 hour cure" to some folks here in the name of good will and research. He played the "I'm offended" card and took off. lol!
Any writer worth their salt who makes claims that they hold the answer to your problems isn't going to flinch at a challenge like that. If you are secure in your work... and someone challenges you or your marketing plan in some way, you come back calmly providing evidence. If not, and you try to go emotional on them... well there's all of the information you need to know about their qualifications and intentions.
But I digress... the point here should remain as my original post stated... Alan Gordon is doing it right, and should be praised for helping people the way he is. No need mucking up this thread with tales of past book-shuckers.
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tennis tom
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Posted - 06/05/2013 : 18:17:22
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quote:Originally posted by bryan3000
...the BS-meters do go off when people try to take advantage.
For the record Bryan, could you please name these anonymous TMS authors you are referring to who are trying to take economic advantage of vulnerable board members? I ask just so they won't be suckered into buying their books? There have been so many authors here, it may be difficult for newcomers and alumni to know which ones you are warning them to stay away from.
Thanks
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pspa123
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Posted - 06/05/2013 : 18:20:52
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| Many people took issue with Nicole's initial approach, let's not rewrite history please. I don't know about Steve as I was not around back then. |
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la_kevin
USA
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Posted - 06/05/2013 : 19:00:57
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I guess I've been away for too long because I have no F'in clue what any of this is about.
I'm just gonna write my book for me and anyone who chooses to read my take on it and my story. Sure Ego is involved, but only because I feel someone needs to hear.
I promise I won't market it here even IF finish it.
On a side note. I notice a lot of infighting here and it's strange. I think everyone here has a piece of the puzzle, and has their own path, so relax everyone it's just different views of a complex issue.
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tennis tom
USA
4749 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2013 : 20:10:44
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Originally posted by pspa123
Many people took issue with Nicole's initial approach, let's not rewrite history please. I don't know about Steve as I was not around back then.
There are 2,791 members registered at this forum. All those who objected to SteveO and Nicole announcing their newly published TMS BOOKS at the TMS FORUM raise their hands.
BTW, I have just looked at the forum's rules and no where did I see anything that says a TMS author can't make an announcement of their newly published TMS BOOK! I personally found Nicole's approach very honest and direct, I can see though where some people in the throes of TMS may find this threatening.
Cheers,
tt/lsmft
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DR. SARNO'S 12 DAILY REMINDERS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8D7w0IUIPU
www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0dKBFwGR0g
TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale
Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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balto
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Posted - 06/05/2013 : 20:12:42
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A preacher wanted to raise money for his church and on being told that there was a fortune in horse racing, decided to purchase one and enter it in the races. However, at the local auction, the going price for horses was so high that he ended up buying a donkey instead. He figured that since he had it, he might as well go ahead and enter it in the races. To his surprise, it won. The pastor was so pleased with the donkey that he entered in another race and it won again. The local paper read:
PASTOR'S ASS OUT FRONTThe Bishop was so upset with this kind of publicity that he ordered The pastor not to enter the donkey in any more races. The next day the local paper headline read:
BISHOP SCRATCHES THE PASTOR'S ASSThis was too much for the Bishop, so he ordered the pastor to get rid of the donkey. The pastor decided to give it to a nun in a nearby convent. The local paper, hearing of the news, posted the following headline:
NUN HAS THE BEST ASS IN TOWNThe Bishop fainted. He informed the nun that she would have to get rid of the donkey. So she sold it to a farmer for $10. The next day the headlines read:
NUN SELLS ASS FOR $10This was too much for the Bishop, so he ordered the nun to buy back the donkey and lead it to the high plains where it could run free. The next day the headlines read:
NUN ANNOUNCES HER ASS IS WILD AND FREE
Alas ... The Bishop was buried the next day.
MORAL OF THE STORY???
Being concerned about public opinion can bring you Much grief and misery and even shorten your life. So, be yourself and enjoy life !!! Stop worrying about everyone else's ass and you'll live longer
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 06/05/2013 : 20:48:09
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That's pretty funny Balto!  |
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Aussie
Australia
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Posted - 06/06/2013 : 01:57:10
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| Let it go already!! This is beyond a joke now. The point is Forest posted an extremely helpful thread with what looks like the most informative and exciting treatment program available and this has turned into another bunch of crap over stuff that happened months ago. I couldn't care less if Brian is still getting on your nerves TT. It's selfish to make so many of these threads about some childish book salesman debate. I think I speak for most of us when I say Get over it!! It's boring and totally irrelevant to Tms help/advice which is why anyone comes here. I respect you have genuinely helped many here over the years with your Tms knowledge but take note, we are all done hearing this crap you have with Brian. Shouldn't this post be about Alan Gordon's free treatment program!? Stop ruining this for the rest if us. |
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Darko
Australia
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Posted - 06/06/2013 : 02:53:12
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Agreed.....the really amusing part is just how upset Brian is getting.......NOT. I think we're lucky Brian isn't an Aussie or he would keep stirring TT until he blew a foo-foo valve
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 06/06/2013 : 06:49:10
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Nope, not letting go of it, as long as Brian keeps up with his INUENDOS sprinkled throughout his posts, I'll keep reminding everyone that he very rudely tried to keep two genuine TMS authors from being here, calling them "BOOK PEDDLERS", "ADVERTISERS" and "SALESMEN". You'll talk to Brian, he's the one keeping this going. We here in the states cover our buddy's backs and SteveO and Nicole are my buddies. This is no skin off me mates, it only takes me a few moments. It's helping my keyboarding skills, I'm learning to spell difficult words like INUENDO, and learning cross cultural insults like foo-foo valves--is that like a pie-hole? Brian kept miss-quoting the Terms and Conditions of the site, which no one but Brian has ever read. It says you can't advertise to sell products, nowhere does it say you can't announce a TMS book at at the TMS Forum. I'm just going to copy this and correct the record every time Brian spews his INUENDOS. Talk to him mates, you guys are late to this party. It's only a TV screen mates, no need to get so excited, ignore my posts if they bother you. Pretend it's just boiler-plate, ignore me.
Cheers Mates, I'm having me another Fosters,
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pspa123
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Posted - 06/06/2013 : 06:57:59
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"I'm learning to spell difficult words like INUENDO"
You are spelling it WRONG, it is innuendo with two n's up front. :) |
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tennis tom
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4749 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2013 : 07:54:54
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Originally posted by pspa123
"I'm learning to spell difficult words like INUENDO"
You are spelling it WRONG, it is innuendo with two n's up front. :)
See I said it was hard to spell, thank you Merriam Webster, that's what I mean, the more people here the Merriamer. The more TMS expert authors here, the more TMSHelp there can be, and the better we can all spell difficult words like inuendo/innuendo. I'm not the one who takes it upon himself to insult and exclude TMS authors because he doesn't like the covers of their books, without ever having opened them, that's Brian--talk to him about it, I'll keep this going as long as he continues, for all I know your all him, this is the internet. Inuendo is a variant of innuendo, OK, what's the plural of it?
Thanks for the spell check, maybe you should be an English teacher instead of a lawyer.
Cheers,
tt/lsmft
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pspa123
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Posted - 06/06/2013 : 07:56:33
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| Innuendos. |
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Fox
USA
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Posted - 06/06/2013 : 08:26:26
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| This is the most fun thread ever. I'm hooked. Can't wait to read each post. Actually, some of the bite in each post is diminishing and the playful element is increasing. Keep it coming! |
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tennis tom
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Posted - 06/06/2013 : 09:23:47
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Thanks Fox, that's the attitude! One thing I've found in my long years of toiling here is that most here lack a sense of humor. This site is also different from other message boards that folks get "queasey", (pspa a little help with the sp. here), whenever there's a pissing match here, I think it's part of that TMS "not being able to take life head on, needing to be passive/aggressive, using in(n)uendo(e)s rather then expressing their true emotions--it's only a TV screen folks. Many find these pissing matches entertaining and I recommend they get involved to see how much fun they can be--get involved with life don't be a witness to it.
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tennis tom
USA
4749 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2013 : 09:40:00
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In ap(p)o(l)logy to my friend Forest, at the TMS Wiki, for hi-jacking (high-jacking) his thread here, due to my OCD (an affective TMS symptom), in my PERFECTIONIT/GOODIST interest, that ALL TMS expert/authors be cordially wel(l)comed here--even if they are not published by a big NY City publishing house, and allowed to announce their TMS books here, at a TMS site, I will copy his original post, since it's been lost beneath the fold, sorry Forest:
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forestfortrees Posted - 06/03/2013 : 13:03:22
Hi Everyone,
I am pleased to announce that TMS practitioner, Alan Gordon, LCSW, has developed and contributed a free TMS recovery program for the online TMS community. Some of you may be familiar with Alan’s work through his free webinars and articles on Breaking The Pain Cycle and Outcome Independence. The program builds off of his experience as a TMS therapist and these past contributions. You can find it by clicking this link.
Alan Gordon describes the goal of the program to generally provide you with a deeper understanding of why you have your pain, how it’s being perpetuated, and what steps you can take to eliminate or significantly reduce it. It is completely free and includes audio clips from coaching sessions that teach you concrete skills for healing your TMS.
Alan has been working on this program for over a year, and I am tremendously grateful to him for donating his time and this program to the online community. And I’m looking forward to reading the whole thing
Forest
My Video Success Story
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