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All1Spirit
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 Posted - 04/26/2013 : 06:48:35
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Alix you lack of addiction is all genetic - it is listed as being as addicting as heroin. You dodged a bullet and your experience is not the norm.
Inner child work can be important for the short term. If you identify being wounded then it can perpetuate stress disorders...as we think so we are!
My childhood was pure hell – but I am a survivor and I chose to see myself as rough around the edges and stronger from my experience. I ran away at 15 and survived on the street and I learned to be tough and resourceful. Sure it has caused me much lifelong pain but it also allowed me to accumulate huge sums of money, be a better and more compassionate therapist and human being. Like the Johnny Cash song, A Boy Named Sue or this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLOEqQW-Bmo
We can see our challenges as a gift that forms a unique person or we can see ourselves as damaged. My wife grew up in an almost perfect family and she is strong because of it. She has told me a hundred times if things get rough there is no one she would want by her side but me...she knows that I am tested and proven by the fire.
"Around and Around the Circle We Go....
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balto
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Posted - 04/26/2013 : 08:49:38
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Medicine men often blame many of human's problems on genetic. I heard they found "fat gene", "alcoholic gene", "short gene", "longevity gene", "prone to heart disease gene",... How do we explain obese parents with skinny kids? Alcoholic father with non alcoholic son? 5 foot tall japanese parents with 6 foot tall children? parent who die at 60 and have kid live to 90? ...
We also don't know if people using a substance because of it's addictive power or it is because it's a habit, a choice, a routine, a psychological addictive behavior? Some people try to quit smoking for hundred of time without success and then one day they just do it with ease. Same with cocaine, alcohol, drugs of all kind. How do we explain that why those substance is addictive one time and not other time?
Many people probably will disagree with me but I think addiction is just a choice, a habit, a deeply ingrained routine, a fear of leaving their "safe zone their comfort zone", a fear of change. Some people choose to stay sick, choose to stay in a bad relationship, choose to continue to live an unhealthy life, choose to .... whatever ... and I think it is a a choice. They need to have something to motivate them to change, they need to someday to come a conclusion that they need to change and to lead a more healthy life style, a "less dependent on anything or anyone" life style... and then they would change.
There are people who gamble every day at the casino. There are people who hoarding stuffs and fill their living space with trash, there are people who would stalk some movie star or someone famous for months or years, There are people who can not go about their day without viewing some porn stuffs on the net, there are people who can not stay away for long from this Forum.... their behaviors are the reflection of their thinking, and their thinking got stuck in a destructive stage. Their life, their focus is totally on that behavior and they feel lost without it.
Other people can give guidance but in the end that person has to take charge and make the change. No one can quit smoking for them, no one can stop them from gambling, watching porn, using drug.... a start a healthy, peaceful life style.
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balto
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Posted - 04/26/2013 : 09:03:18
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Here is some writting I found on the web, not sure who wrote it:
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The word genetics is mentioned a lot in connection with the GAPS conditions. Now and then we see articles in various journals where some part of some gene has been found, which may have something to do with autism, or schizophrenia, or ADHD/ADD, or dyslexia, or dyspraxia or depression. We are assured that scientists are working on it and that the genetic cause of these conditions will be found! Not that it will help the patients or their families, but it will put our minds at rest that our children were meant to be disabled and there was nothing we could do about it!
In our modern world genetics is a popular concept. Almost every health problem is commonly blamed on genetics. We pollute the water we drink, the food we eat, the air we breathe with industrial and nuclear wastes and when we get ill we blame it all on genetics. We deplete our soils of minerals and other nutrients and replace them with pesticides, organophosphates, weedkillers and lots of other chemicals, we grow our crops on these soils, we eat these crops, we get ill and blame it all on genetics. We damage our children’s immune systems with vaccinations and antibiotics and blame it all on genetics. We regularly consume processed foods with virtually no nourishment for the body and full of chemicals, detrimental to health, and when we get ill we blame it all on genetics. We regularly intoxicate ourselves with alcohol, tobacco and drugs and when we get ill we blame it all on genetics.
If we look at all the epidemics of degenerative disease we have in our modern times, which are blamed on genetics, it is easy to come to the conclusion that we all must have very poor genetics indeed! In fact I don’t know how human kind survived for millennia with such poor genetics! According to the scientific establishment genetics are to blame pretty much for every misery we suffer. We have epidemics of cancer, heart disease, diabetes, psychological and psychiatric maladies, learning disabilities, autoimmune disorders, obesity, etc. etc., the list is very long. These are all conditions which doctors very rarely encountered 100 years ago. Have our genetics changed so quickly to cause these epidemics?
Well, for the last few decades genetic research or molecular biology has received the most money in the western world. A lot of laboratories, which used to do basic science, have been converted into genetic research. Billions have been poured into this area in every western country. So, if every other scientist works in genetics that that is what they know and that is what they are going to think about when it comes to identifying the course of any disease. As the old English proverb states: “If the only tool you have is a hammer, then everything looks like a nail.” Obesity? Don’t worry about your eating habits. Just wait, we will find a gene to blame for it!…Cancer? Do not torment yourself with questions about your lifestyle, we will pinpoint a gene which caused it!…Learning disabilities? Oh definitely must be genetic!
Genetics are a very convenient scapegoat. It is something we are born with, there is nothing we can do about it at the moment. So, wouldn’t it be wonderful not to worry about our food, environment or our life-styles? Wouldn’t it be so convenient to just put all the responsibility for our state of health on our genetics?
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balto
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Posted - 04/26/2013 : 09:07:22
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Some more on genetics
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Infidelity and 12 other things we blame on our genes
Cheating spouses can now blame their DNA for their adulterous ways. Apparently our genetic makeup is to blame for almost everything we do
By The Week Staff | December 6, 2010
Maybe now Tiger Woods has an excuse?
If you thought a busted moral compass was to blame for marital infidelity, think again. The real cause might be your genetic make-up, say scientists at Binghamton University in New York. A minor variation of your dopamine receptor apparently makes you more likely to cheat on your spouse. In recent years, a growing list of vices, disorders, and frowned upon behaviors have been blamed on genes. Here's a list:
Overeating
If you can't stop pigging out, it's because of a mutation in your genes, say British scientists from Exeter University. People with the "fat gene" are up to 6 pounds heavier than those without it.
Overspending
Those five maxed-out credit cards in your wallet might not be your fault, say scientists at Stanford University and the University of Florida, Gainesville. Studies of identical twins show that "extreme choices" — such as deciding whether to shell out for an expensive pair of shoes — are genetic.
Smoking
Can't quit the cancer sticks? Blame your DNA! Your genes not only make you more likely to get hooked on smoking, they also make it harder for you to kick the habit, say researchers at a Houston-based cancer center.
Bad driving
About 30 percent of Americans have a "gene variant" that make them roughly 20 percent worse at driving, says a study from the University of California, Irvine. Next time you have a fender-bender, you know what to blame.
Inability to remember faces
If you can't put a name to a face, it may not be because you're not paying attention. No, facial recognition ability — or the lack of it — is another thing that comes from our genetic make-up, according to a study from Wellesley College in Massachussets.
Poor sense of direction
Can't seem to ever find your way home? Apparently individuals missing a sliver of their genetic alphabet — a condition known as Williams Syndrome — find it more difficult to navigate from point A to point B.
Stuttering
Speech therapists have been trying to cure this impediment with therapy, but drugs may be more appropriate. Researchers at the National Institute on Deafness and Other Communication Disorders have discovered that stutterers share a mutated gene.
Shrewishness
Why are some women more "combative" than others? Researchers at the University of Pittsburgh found that hostility in women may be genetic.
Laziness
If your teenager is a slacker, you might just have yourself to blame — or your genetic make-up, at least. Scientists at the University of California found that the urge to keep fit or remain inactive is passed down from generation to generation.
Bullying
The desire to pick on weaker individuals than yourself is hereditary, according to a study by the Institute of Psychiatry in London. This kind of inherited "aggressive antisocial behavior" is especially profound in girls.
Carpal tunnel syndrome
Constant typing is often blamed for the aching wrists associated with carpal tunnel syndrome, says orthopaedic professor David Ring of Harvard University, but it's far more likely to come from your genes.
Dislike of spinach, broccoli
Next time you're trying to convince a reluctant kid to eat some spinach, consider this — he or she may be genetically pre-disposed to dislike it. Genetic "super-tasters," people who have more taste buds on their tongue than most other people, tend to dislike spinach, broccoli, grapefruit juice, green tea, and soy products.
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balto
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Posted - 04/26/2013 : 09:13:47
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Supercomputers prove you can't blame everything on your genes
Oxford University's Denis Noble is attempting to convince biologists that the genome is not like a computer program. To do this, he is using powerful computers
By Christine Evans-Pughe / THE GUARDIAN , LONDON
There's a widely accepted view that the genome is the computer program of life, and genes the software subroutines that code from DNA via RNA to proteins; and that like computers, when the software goes wrong bad things happen.
But biologists building computer models for testing drugs or pinning down the causes of disease say these metaphors are past their sell-by date. Instead, they're using computer models to try to see what effect different genes really have on our bodies.
A pioneer in this field, Denis Noble, codirector of computational physiology at Oxford University, has spent 47 years developing biological models. As a medical student in 1960 he developed the first viable mathematical model of a working heart cell, showing how it was possible to reproduce the heart's rhythm by modeling the changing electrical potential within it. Today, his heart cell models are so accurate that pharmaceutical companies use them to test for the effects of drugs on cardiac arrhythmia.
And the model shows effects you might not expect. For example, in Noble's heart cell model, if you remove the pacemaker gene protein -- first discovered in 1997 -- which generates 80 percent of the heart's electrical current, you might expect that the heart would stop or go haywire. In fact there is almost no change.
"The system is so robust that other mechanisms -- 40 or 50 other proteins -- ensure that if one fails the others can take over. It is beautifully failsafe," Noble says. "Nor can you conclude that if knocking out a gene has no observable effect it's not involved in a particular body function."
It takes all night on a computer with 18 processors to simulate one second of a complete beating heart, reconstructing the function down to the cellular level, so Noble is looking forward to having access to a 10-petaflop supercomputer -- the equivalent to about 5,000 consumer PCs -- being developed by Fujitsu. The machine is being designed to run simulations of complete human organ models in real time, including a whole organ heart model to be provided by Noble and his collaborators. Other teams are building multi-level computer models of all the other human organs as part of the Human Physiome Project.
Roche is one of the many pharmaceutical companies working with computer models from university groups such as Noble's, as well as using commercial mathematical modeling tools from companies such as MathWorks and Entelos.
Cristiano Migliorini, a modeling expert at Roche, suggests that biologists proposing new theories will soon submit computer models with their papers so that other scientists can re-use this knowledge.
"If someone publishes a good paper on a low-level mechanism in the liver, for instance, it would be great to be able to slot that software into a larger scale, higher-level liver model," he said.
Noble, meanwhile, has distilled his findings into "10 Commandments of Systems Biology." This list, in his paper in last October's issue of the Journal of Experimental Physiology, challenges popular perceptions about genes. Genes, Noble says, cannot be assigned specific functions; DNA is not the sole transmitter of inheritance; and there is no "genetic program." In fact there is no "program" at any level, including the brain.
Noble questions the "dogma of genetic determinism." The idea that it's rarely correct to attribute a function solely to one gene seems at odds with the headlines about discoveries of cancer genes, pacemaker genes, depression genes and so forth.
multifunctional
But as he explains: "The first function a gene is found to be involved in is rarely, if ever, the only one and may not be the most important one. The only unambiguous labeling of genes is in terms of the protein they code for."
The body's information doesn't only come from our genes, he argues: "There is also feedback to the genome from the cells, the tissues, the body as a whole and even from the environment. Genetic coding only tells us which protein a gene will make, it doesn't define how much of it."
The discovery of higher-level mechanisms that adjust how much protein a gene makes is a persuasive argument for a more integrated understanding of biology.
In the heart, for example, Noble says, "the ionic currents are so finely balanced during the slow phases of pacemaker activity that it is inconceivable that nature arrives at the correct expression and activity level without some kind of feedback control."
However "at present, we do not know the mechanism for this."
His money is on some form of gene marking (known as epigenetics) that controls gene expression and function during development.
DNA isn't the sole transmitter of inheritance because we also inherit the rest of the contents of our mother's egg cell.
"The information in the egg cell is vast," he says. "It's not just a messy soup, but highly structured with lipids, mitochondria, microtubules and lots of small molecules arranged in cellular compartments, much of which isn't coded for by genes."
Noble's views on inheritance are not mainstream. Marc Kirschner, chair of systems biology at Harvard Medical School and an admirer of Noble's work, says that while he can see Noble's point, it's likely to cause confusion.
"I think there is a danger in stating that in such strong terms," Kirschner says.
But he agrees that rather than describe the genome as a software program, we should think of it more like a database or library of information inside each cell that the cell can access.
The idea of a program doesn't fit with how the body works, Noble says.
cellular level
"If there is some program that, for instance, determines cardiac rhythm, it is not a separate [controlling] thing, it is the interaction between the cell proteins and the cell's electrical potential. It's not simply a genetic program -- the rhythm is created at the level of the cell as a whole. If you break the cell, you no longer have cardiac rhythm," he says.
One could argue that Noble's 10 Commandments are changing our perceptions rather than the facts, and yet the furore created by the geneticist James Watson's comments last year about the relationship between genes, intelligence and race shows that perception matters.
Noble says that Watson's remarks were an example of the "tendency of some biologists to imagine that phenomena at a higher level are simply correlated with the molecular structure of the genome and the proteins."
"It is a deeply flawed understanding because of the two-way interaction between organisms and the environment. It's not dealing with all the facts and deals with those we do have in a very partial way," he says.
Kirschner, although agreeing with the general thrust of Noble's views that this is the century of "putting it together again," sounds a note of caution.
"While many biologists recognize a need to take environment and systems thinking into account, they find it easy to follow the DNA paradigm because it has been, and continues to be, so productive," he says. "It would be a mistake to pit these two against each other. They are different ways to a common goal and of course we systems biologists make continuous use of reductionist methods and analysis."
So if you think you're just like a computer, it's time for a metaphor upgrade. And no, you can't blame absolutely everything on your genes.
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balto
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Posted - 04/26/2013 : 09:18:10
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Blame or Responsibility?
Anytime I run across something that changes the way we think about something, I find it exciting. Just when we are comfortable with "Well, it's in my genes." as an excuse for ANYthing, be it disease, having a lousy dispostion or habit, being fat or just blaming everything on your parents (yay, this is good news for parents!) epigenetics comes along. If you are one of those people who uses your genes as an excuse for anything, be prepared right now to think again, and take the responsibility (ouch) that you probably have more control over your gene expression than previously thought.
Epigenetics has been around for more than twenty years. The validity of the research and study has brought this addition to our understanding of human biology. I recently read an article in Time Magazine that is almost a word for word account of a lecture I heard on epigenetics from the notes I took.
Epigenetics, which is above genetic control, is about how environmental information and our perceptions control our genes. Bruce Lipton says we can change our environment AND perceptions thereby we can change our genes. We are not victims of our genes but masters!
In biochemistry it is scientifically proven that environment and perception change chemical structures. So we really do have more control over gene expression that ever. With that knowledge of course, comes responsibility. Thoughts and perceptions are huge. Proper nutrition is critical.
The way we respond to the world can kill our cells or replicate unhealthy cells. Stress dibiliates our cells. That, in turn, affects the epigenetic markers atop your DNA.
There is power in knowledge. What we do and think today can either have a good result (health and longevity) or a bad result (symptoms, disease, early death). Lipton says only 10% of disease is actually genetic. That leaves 90% of disease stemming from environment and how things are perceived. 90%!
DNA from us is passed along to our children. Did we give them junk DNA or something they could actually benefit from? For most of us with kids already, the question is moot. However, if we are desirous of longevity, being healthy and strong as we age so that our future years aren't spent in hospital, time to kick it in gear, isn't it?
Researchers and scientists in biochemistry and cellular nutrition insist that to a great extent, nurturing our cellular health, keeping the immune system in top order and learning to de-stress have a huge impact on how gene expression is activated - or not. This gives hope - as well as giving one more reason to pay attention not only to our environment, but what we feed ourselves. Lifestyle choices can change the epigenetic marks atop your DNA.
There is ALWAYS a reason to pay attention to what we eat, and our lifestyle choices. This is but one of them. It should empower us to make healthy choices - anything that empowers is good stuff! To read more about epigenetics, you can read The Biology of Belief – Unleashing the Power of Consciousness, Matter & Miracles or The Wisdom of Your Cells - How Your Beliefs Control Your Biology, both by Bruce Lipton. Or look up Epigenetics on the web.
If you don't have time to conduct your own research to validate for yourself that all this "new stuff" is, indeed, the real deal............
If you want to seriously get involved and commited to your OWN better health and longevity..........
And if you need a speed program from me on how to do this................
Here is my best (quickest?) advice:
Open your heart and mind, breathe more deeply, delete stories and excuses so your thinking is clean and clear of old garbage, and do not EAT garbage. Know that YOU have the power, more than you probably ever realized, to affect the entire rest of your life.
Happy Cells = Happy Life!
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art
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Posted - 04/26/2013 : 18:19:36
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Hi Marsha,
It's been my experience, for what that's worth. that TMS treatment generally won't work in the presence of severe emotional pain... that it's that very pain that's causing our symptoms. Fear, worry, anger, depression, they all work to make us sick, then they work to keep us sick.
My two cents would be to find ways to make as much peace with your situation as you can. IN the meanwhile, find something you love to do and do it. There are no easy answers, but I'm certain you can find a better life for yourself than then one you have now...
All the best,
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pspa123
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Posted - 04/27/2013 : 08:45:20
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| Art as usual you have great insight. While i understand and appreciate the Sarno thesis that physical pain exists to protect from unacceptable emotions, in my own case the more relevamt paradigm often seems to me to be that emotions i am all too aware of but i cannot process are causing physical pain. Maybe it is semantics i dont know. |
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RageSootheRatio
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Posted - 04/27/2013 : 12:36:18
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the more relevamt paradigm often seems to me to be that emotions i am all too aware of but i cannot process are causing physical pain. Maybe it is semantics i dont know.
WOW, pspa! You articulate something that I think is very true in my own case, but wasn't able to clearly see or put into words! thank you. (and btw I don't think it's just "semantics" either, although of course I don't know how I would KNOW.)
Perhaps it all just comes down to something very simple, like SteveO has put forth: just to be relaxed and happy (whether that means resolving the past, the present, our thoughts, our feelings, from the top down, the bottom up etc etc etc)... the goal is ever the same, to be relaxed, to be happy ???
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pspa123
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Posted - 04/27/2013 : 12:56:14
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| RSR I don't pretend to have a cohesive theory or any special insight and I go back and forth a fair amount. Recently has been one of those periods though where I am skeptical of the notion -- at least as applied to my case -- that it's what one isn't aware of that is the real cause of pain. And I have seen that notion stated very bluntly here and in some of the literature, although of course many people disagree with it. Put differently, given how painful things I am very conscious of are or can be sometimes, what is the physical pain really saving me from? |
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plum
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Ace1
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Posted - 04/27/2013 : 17:43:46
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| Yes the changing of your thinking is critical. The real truth is this and as you heal ( if one does bc they are doing it right), you will find this to be the case. Reprogramming is the operative word. It is important to reverse the loss of mental control that many of us practiced leading to our illnesses. |
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marsha
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Posted - 04/27/2013 : 21:07:47
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Ace,
How do you change thinking when you are in constant pain?
Marsha |
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art
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Posted - 04/28/2013 : 10:14:10
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Originally posted by marsha
Ace,
How do you change thinking when you are in constant pain?
Marsha
I'm not Ace, but I'll take a crack at it. What are your thoughts now when you're in pain? Likely, "I'm so miserable." "Oh God, how much longer must I stand this?" "My life is such ****." "I can't take it any longer"
Not making fun, so please don't misunderstand. These are the kinds of thoughts that come almost automatically to all of us...
Instead, do your best to focus on the positive to the very extent you can while understanding that pain is as much a part of life as the good stuff. For many, it's a good deal more.
I'm not just blowing steam here. I have chronic pain myself. I've learned to just get on with things, and not to think about it too much. If the pain is really so great that I can't do anything other than lay in bad and moan, then that's what I do. I'm no saint, that's for sure.
You've got to change your attitude, and cultivate a sense of acceptance leavened with hope. You beat TMS once, you can do it again. But you're in a different place now. You're older, perhaps sadder. You're going to have to go at this at a deeper, more fundamental level.
In short Marsha, you must find a way to change.. |
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marsha
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Posted - 04/28/2013 : 11:00:33
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Hi Art,
I do know what you mean. I just don't know how to get there.
Maintaining a positive attitude is difficult with 24/7 pain. Severe pain wakes me in the middle of the night. I do take a break when the pain is overwhelming. I am very social, have company often, love to cook and am active in the community. Stony brook university is close by and I take classes there. Keeps my brain alive. I taught art for 30 years and continue to work on my own. I have sold many pieces.
My life is a good one. I have been married for almost 46 years to the same person who I still love. Our children are grown and have been on their own for over 20 plus years.
Most days I am positive and function fairly well. Severe leg pain keeps me from doing too much walking, but I try. BUT ther are those days when I say why me, how bad can this get. Or I can't take it anymore.
I have tried medication because I thought it might break the cycle of pain but I have negative reactions to meds. My belief is that TMS can cause those negative reactions.
So, thanks for your reply. If you have anything you think might assist in recovery I would be greatful.
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art
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Posted - 04/28/2013 : 11:49:54
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Hi Marsha,
I don't have much more wisdom than that...at least generally speaking. It sounds like you have a full, well balanced life May I ask the nature of your pain. Sorry if I missed that///
Edit:Also, are you convinced your pain is psychosomatic? |
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marsha
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Posted - 04/28/2013 : 13:16:36
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My pain is in my legs, hip area, buttocks and lower back. Once in a while in my hands. I have been to see Dr. Sarno twice MRI reports in hand. he said TMS. One doc said Fibromilgia another stenosis another arthritis and hips. Pain moves around.. Been in pain off and on since I was 16.
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Ace1
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Posted - 04/28/2013 : 18:05:53
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| Ok well first you have to understand that this is a PROCESS and in no way will this take a short time but will take a considerable amount of time. This is really about retraining your mind not to strain with the things you taught it to strain with most of your life. Intense annoyance/anger and intense rush/focusing tend to be the biggest culprits. You have to use your body's symptoms as your coach, to let you know your straining or you will never get better. If your in pain all the time you have to use higher intensity as the sign. Anyone who trains to become an Olympic athlete starts at some point when they are not very good at all. Some maybe awful. That doesn't mean they can't become great or the best, but the worse you are at the start the longer it generally takes. Some have advocated that challenging pain and doing everything despite the pain will make the pain go away. This type of approach would have never worked for me. I do things with ease and when in pain try to see my mental strain, it may be obvious and if not I see how intense I'm being about what I'm doing at the time. I also definetly try not to force the affected body part to do better by straining into it more. I try to relax the affected body part as I use it as normal as I can. I used directed mind power to reprogram myself. This is all in my keys to healing. Good luck. |
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art
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Posted - 04/29/2013 : 04:03:47
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Marsha,
Ace's advice is excellent. I'd only add that in my case anxiety/fear/worry are the main culprits.
That your symptoms move around is classic TMS.
My guess is that despite Sarno's diagnosis, you still have major doubts. Those doubts lead to fear and worry. Fear and worry lead to perpetuation of symptoms...
Great advice about letting your body be your coach. Make note of the way your pain moves around, and ebbs and flows. Chances are you can become quite good at seeing cause and effect correlations...
ONce you establish these connections, it becomes much easier to see how you can have a positive effect on your pain by the simple but not always easy) expedient of altering your thought patterns...
TMS results from a vicious, negative cycle. Recovery is just the opposite. Which is good news. Small results naturally lead onto bigger results as you begin to feel more and more encouraged that you can beat this thing...
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Ace1
USA
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Posted - 04/29/2013 : 09:07:46
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| Hi art, thank you for your great advice. Yes fear definetly is a factor. In my case though my fear was also a tms equivalent. Do you remember in healing back pain, dr sarno said he is beginning to think anger is more important than anxiety in the generation of tms? I think he meant that because fear is an equivalent of tms a lot of times and was a result of the anger/intensity. Now obviously, one does not want to consciously worry about their symptoms or be constantly afraid of certain things in ones life. I think that is a different kind of fear than the one that there is no reason for and definetly can start and perpetuate tms. |
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