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plum

United Kingdom
641 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2013 :  06:04:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Gail. He seems kinda quirky to me and I have an affection for that.

Maybe I have a blindspot, maybe missing petals don't bother me much (loves me, loves me not...), maybe I appreciate that nature is not perfect and thank god for that. If I used eyestrain as a benchmark both John Sarno and Claire Weekes would go down the chute.
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eric watson

USA
601 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2013 :  06:17:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
plum the video has nothing to do with strain-
that was just aces and baltos observations
as you know eric robbins is a powerhouse
in the got it together world
you know hes speaking right and that's what matters
he adds sarnos healing therapy with
fastereft and gets phenominal results
that's our look on it my sweet- learn more from Dr. Eric Robbins
hes really very educational
he adds Dr Gay Hendricks teachings too
a powerful teacher

Edited by - eric watson on 04/12/2013 06:21:38
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balto

839 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2013 :  07:22:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by plum

Thanks Gail. He seems kinda quirky to me and I have an affection for that.

Maybe I have a blindspot, maybe missing petals don't bother me much (loves me, loves me not...), maybe I appreciate that nature is not perfect and thank god for that. If I used eyestrain as a benchmark both John Sarno and Claire Weekes would go down the chute.



You are a saint Plum, your mind only focus on people's good. I have to admit I am far from that, I can't help from not notice bugger on people's face. I guess after learning about tms/anxiety I have focus on identifying all the strain and stress in my life and try to elliminate them, can't helped when I notice strain and stress on other people.

It is like an exterminator keep looking out for bugs every where he goes. It is like a home inspector keep looking for defect in any house he visits...
I don't try to put anyone down, I just share what I have noticed.

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No, I don't know everything. I'm just here to share my experience.
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Ace1

USA
1040 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2013 :  08:38:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes plum as you get better at it seeing the strain in your behavior, you tend to see it clearly on others. Not to judge but you can just see it. It doesn't make that person on the video any less as a human, we all suffer to some degree with tms. Like I said before, health is a spectrum. Would you think any less of a person with a tumor on their face? Of course not. To point it out on an educational forum is what balto and I though might be helpful. If it is not helpful to you that's ok, maybe you'll see it one day and maybe you won't. Different things presented on this forum will resonate with some more than others. See if this person did not see the strained behavior in his eyes and recognize it as another manifestation of tms he would not work on it and thus there would be no more progress attained. You have to use symptoms and dysfunction of the body as indicators that your not quite there yet.

Edited by - Ace1 on 04/12/2013 08:42:47
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alix

USA
434 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2013 :  14:36:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I really liked his message though. It is really important for pelvic pain sufferers to see this. Many urologists like him diagnose pudendal nerve entrapment, prostatitis, vulvodynia and other pathologies.
And here comes a urologist from Kaiser Permanente (a giant mainstream integrated managed care organization) that says that it may be psychosomatic.
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plum

United Kingdom
641 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2013 :  14:44:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ace1

Yes plum as you get better at it seeing the strain in your behavior, you tend to see it clearly on others. Not to judge but you can just see it. It doesn't make that person on the video any less as a human, we all suffer to some degree with tms. Like I said before, health is a spectrum. Would you think any less of a person with a tumor on their face? Of course not. To point it out on an educational forum is what balto and I though might be helpful. If it is not helpful to you that's ok, maybe you'll see it one day and maybe you won't. Different things presented on this forum will resonate with some more than others. See if this person did not see the strained behavior in his eyes and recognize it as another manifestation of tms he would not work on it and thus there would be no more progress attained. You have to use symptoms and dysfunction of the body as indicators that your not quite there yet.



I'm not saying I don't see it, but that I think it is petty to point it out when his words have huge healing potential for others. We could nitpick all day and it brings us full circle. While I understand what you say, for many people here that focus on inconsequential detail is the very reason they have tms. Your 'strain' is someone else's heartbreak. I respect your point, can you see mine?
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Ace1

USA
1040 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2013 :  15:31:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I understand what your saying but I don't agree with it that its inconsequential. If what we said here breaks your heart, then it would be to your benefit to decondition yourself to things like that bc I'm sure you'll hear people say much worse. I think his message is good and helpful but I don't think he is saying anything different than what is in dr sarno's books. This isn't bad, but I can't see this message being the key message that brings someone to a cure.
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pspa123

672 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2013 :  16:00:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dr Robins appears to have evolved beyond pure Sarno for better or worse as he is now an enthusiastic advocate for faster EFT.
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gigalos

Netherlands
310 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2013 :  09:55:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear o dear,
How did you guys manage to spend two pages on any possible TMS signs the guy in the video may be showing or not??

I mailed the guy in the video and he told me had to operate the night before.... yes, that is a lie, but SO WHAT?! It all diverts the attention from the clearly positive goal Plum had with this thread.

I don't want to add much, because it leads us nowhere. I suggest a virtual group hug. If you don't want to join it, tough luck, I am hugging you as you read this.

Edited by - gigalos on 04/13/2013 10:25:23
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Ace1

USA
1040 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2013 :  11:48:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Actually it was just 2 posts in the beginning that mentioned the signs, the rest was just explaining back and forth why we did it. I'll still take part of the group hug though.
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MainEventMike

USA
26 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2013 :  12:47:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


Edited by - MainEventMike on 04/13/2013 12:59:51
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