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plum
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balto
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 Posted - 04/09/2013 : 14:44:00
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the guy in the video looked like he hasn't sleep for weeks. Look at his eyes. Lots of what Ace would call "strain".
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Ace1
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Posted - 04/09/2013 : 16:27:54
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| Yes balto. I saw this video before and I agree with you 100% |
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pspa123
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Posted - 04/09/2013 : 16:47:59
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| And the point of saying he looks tired is? |
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gigalos
Netherlands
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Posted - 04/09/2013 : 17:09:27
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Great reminder Plum! I love the speed he talks with, it keeps you from wandering off!! Excellent video for newcomers.
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eric watson
USA
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Posted - 04/09/2013 : 18:00:45
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this was the video that gave me that uh-huh
moment Barbara- number 507
The magic of john sarno and gay hendricks
thanks plum
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Edited by - eric watson on 04/09/2013 18:05:38 |
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Ace1
USA
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Posted - 04/09/2013 : 18:03:43
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| When you still have a lot of mental strain, a person tends to have some of this strain manifest in one part of their body or another depending on a number of factors. Some of these factors include but are not limited to being learned behavior from a parent or the abuse of a particular body part to try and make it function beyond its limit etc, which is dependent on what the person does frequently. What balto astutely observed is that the person on this video seems to be sufferring from another manifestation of tms. |
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balto
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Posted - 04/09/2013 : 18:05:06
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Originally posted by pspa123
And the point of saying he looks tired is?
I just thought it kind of funny pspa.
a mindbody teacher that looked stressed out is like a dentist with cavities, is like a policeman that don't know how to shoot, is like a taxi driver that asked you for direction, is like ....
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pspa123
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Posted - 04/09/2013 : 18:08:10
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| Rough crowd. I guess Eric listened to the message and wasnt distracted by some imagined flaw in the messenger. |
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Ace1
USA
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Posted - 04/09/2013 : 18:43:00
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| So pspa you think it's imagined. You don't see what balto is talking about? I'm sure he's better than when he first started but his strain seems to be on the extreme side. This is not to be tough, one can learn from it. |
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pspa123
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Posted - 04/09/2013 : 18:45:09
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| Maybe it's his style or maybe he was tired that day. I am not going to diagnose him or diminish his message based on his appearance on one video. To me, if he doesn't come across like a zen master, it isn't particularly relevant. |
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balto
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Posted - 04/09/2013 : 19:24:27
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Originally posted by pspa123
Maybe it's his style or maybe he was tired that day. I am not going to diagnose him or diminish his message based on his appearance on one video. To me, if he doesn't come across like a zen master, it isn't particularly relevant.
I didn't say anything about his message did I?
It isn't relevant I thought it's funny either pspa.
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pspa123
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Posted - 04/09/2013 : 19:32:08
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| Sure you did balto you compared him to a policeman that couldnt shoot. Or a taxi driver who didnt know where he was going. I read that as saying, in my opinion this man isn.t worthy of being listened to. Apologies if i misread your intent. |
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balto
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Posted - 04/09/2013 : 19:40:13
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either you misread or my attempt at humor failed. Either way, no big deal.
I'm in sale for most of my life and believe it or not people judged you by how you look all the time, whether you like it or not.
I can't believe we wasting time talking about this. 
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plum
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/10/2013 : 03:18:41
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Repeatedly pointing out strain in others seems like a kind of strain in itself. If nothing else it comes across as a judgement laced with perfectionism, "you're not good enough."
It's not that others don't see what you see, it's that they look beyond it or as Louise Hay affirms "I see with love and joy."
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Ace1
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Posted - 04/10/2013 : 06:53:58
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| Dear plum, it would only be a strain if it was bothering us. I want to make it clear this was not to make fun of the guy. I think balto was making the point that things didnt seem right for him to have that much strain and to be a mindbody teacher. We don't know him. We have no reason to think less of him. He actually seems like a very nice man with a good message. The point is this is a form of the type of strain we are discussing, but in this case this involves the mans eyes. This is illustrative of points i made in the past. If we are discussing how to recover and an observation is made that is independent of the person himself, it is for understanding not to bash. Like a missing petal on a flower, you say that because it is true, not for other reasons. The flower with the missing petal would be used to contrast it to the flower with all its petals. This would be illustrative to someone who has just seen a flower for the first time. Put in this way, it cannot be a strain to say that. I think most people who would have seen the video would have thought the same thing but not thought much about it. For most people their strain is not that evident as the man on this video, so it is good to see a strong case of it to give you a sense. One of my keys mentions to possibly video tape yourself so you can see it in yourself. |
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Ace1
USA
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Posted - 04/10/2013 : 07:01:37
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| Sorry forgot to address the last point. I agree that judging others for the fun of it can definetly can lead to a strain and it is good to look past other people's flaws and anger and to forgive. It is however very helpful to see the strain in yourself and help use the affirmations to help change your behavior. Using an example of someone with a strained behavior like the guy on this video is to help show us what it is like. Kind of like the pictures of various illnesses in medical books. |
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balto
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Posted - 04/10/2013 : 09:11:51
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I just thought it is funny Plum, nothing more. The guy is a great guys, no need for me to make fun of him. :)
Imagine doctor Sarno went on TV and talk about tms and wearing a back brace. Imagine the Dalai Lama cursing at some guys who accidently pour hot water on him while giving a talk about compassion. I guess I'm just having a weird sense of humor.
anyway, I think what Ace talked about is very true. It helps if we can recognize the strains inside us. I often monitor my muscle strain and find way to release them. I sometime can see my body tensed up, or my stomach feel sour, or my eyes squinting... I will find way to relax and release those strain. I will try to find out what trigger those strain and try to solve them or elliminate them. Over time it became a skill that is very helpful to me.
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RageSootheRatio
Canada
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Posted - 04/10/2013 : 17:18:44
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Just wanted to thank you plum, for bringing this video to my attention. Found it quite helpful, actually !  RSR |
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plum
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/11/2013 : 14:02:25
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Originally posted by RageSootheRatio
Just wanted to thank you plum, for bringing this video to my attention. Found it quite helpful, actually ! RSR
Thank you sweetheart.
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gailnyc
USA
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Posted - 04/11/2013 : 18:21:51
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| I love this guy! Thanks, plum. |
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The Magic of John Sarno
