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Brooklynn
USA
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 Posted - 03/06/2013 : 19:38:41
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I want to start by saying that I have been lurking on this forum for the past few months, and I want to thank each of you for all the help I've gotten from your posts. I really thought that I could just read everything here and find a way to heal on my own, but I keep having setbacks and I've recently discovered that TMS may be contributing to my TMS (I swear that will make sense in a minute).
I thought all my symptoms started while we were in Hawaii for a job. We were there for several months and I suddenly had a severe panic attack one morning with no known contributing factors. Over the past year, this one episode has evolved into multiple emergency room visits, hours of online research, and more random symptoms than I care to list at one time. In fact, I happened upon this forum while I was doing a search for "random unexplained pains". The link was tucked away in the comments and I had to read through at least 100 posts before I found it.
Since coming to this forum, I'm convinced that I'm suffering from TMS. Every doctor's appointment has ended with more questions than I have answers. I've been diagnosed with acid reflux, muscle strain, migraines, pseudotumor cerebri (I've actually gone through this condition once before, more on that later), anxiety, depression, and potential diabetes (tests came back fine, just a suspicion on the part of the doctor). I thought that finding a logical diagnosis would make me feel a little better, and the concept of TMS did in a way. However, I keep having setbacks and it is killing my confidence.
This is why I think TMS is contributing to TMS. Since learning about this condition, I've talked to everyone I come across about it because many of my friends and relatives have admitted that they suffer from similar symptoms. However, I've made a break-through with myself today when I realized that I'm putting pressure on myself to get better so I can be an example for the people I care for. I can tell from many of the posts I've read that many of the people on this forum have a similar mindset (I was disappointed to discover that I'm not as special as I thought. It was a huge blow to my ego, but perhaps a step in the right direction).
What I want to know is this: Have any of you found yourselves using your journey to TMS recovery as another way to reassure yourself that you are helping others? It seems part of the process is to focus on yourself for once (GASP!). I just seem to be struggling with that particular issue.
I've only experienced progress in the past few weeks but I got a pretty sharp chest pain today that sent me into a tailspin. Not because I was afraid I was dying (as would have been the case a month ago) but rather it was because I felt like I was failing and would be a disappointment to the people I've shared this with.
In any case, I really enjoy the posts on this forum and I'm so grateful to everyone for being so candid. I find that coming here just to read what is being discussed makes a huge difference when I feel my anxiety coming on. Knock on wood, but I haven't had an actual panic attack since finding this forum and I'm sure I don't need to try to explain to any of you the gratitude I feel for that.
The best thing I can do for you is to take care of myself... |
Edited by - Brooklynn on 03/06/2013 20:22:21 |
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All1Spirit
USA
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Posted - 03/06/2013 : 20:44:46
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Have a panic attack for the first time in over 35 years started my 6+ year path into anxiety and TMS hell.
I had not had one in so long I totally forgot what they felt like - and this one was strange.
Then received the misdiagnosis of "hey you might die" or at least will need to be on powerful meds and surgeries - that was enough to light my nervous system off the charts
"Around and Around the Circle We Go....
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shawnsmith
Czech Republic
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Posted - 03/07/2013 : 07:04:03
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A doctor who says to a patient "hey you might die" should have their medical license immediately revoked for violating the Hippocratic oath. That is totally irresponsible language.
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All1Spirit
USA
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Posted - 03/07/2013 : 07:20:16
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Well his actual words were " The treatment outcome is questionable" when he told me my only chance was two or three powerful drugs I knew I was allergic to, and multiple surgeries with more drugs I felt like I had a death sentence.
I have a gentic defect in my liver detox system so I can not take many drugs
I was so stressed I passed out on the exam table and my nervous seemed to take this as set point and never came down
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shawnsmith
Czech Republic
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Posted - 03/07/2013 : 07:46:03
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Norman Cousins talks about the impact of physician's words on patients in his book "Head first: the biology of hope and the healing power of the human spirit."
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plum
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/07/2013 : 08:27:46
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Hi Brooklynn,
In answer to your question, yes, to some extent I have. I'm a carer so healing of myself and others dovetails naturally and is in many senses a cornerstone of empathy. It's worth considering that tms is not a treatment but rather an unfolding of the self, and a way of living as an emotionally aware and engaged soul. That you wish to help others is wonderful, this is exactly what Ace1, Eric, Balto, Nicole and many others here do on a regular basis, but each of these people have healed. This is where your question rests and I suggest you embrace your own healing and allow the boons to ripple, soft as a butterflies kiss, into the lives of those you love.
I'm sorry this reply is so brief but I'm settled in a tea room with a poor wireless signal and am seizing the moment.
All the best angel. |
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 03/07/2013 : 08:54:05
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quote:
Originally posted by All1Spirit
I have a gentic defect in my liver detox system so I can not take many drugs.
How do you know that for sure? Did a doctor tell you that? |
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tennis tom
USA
4749 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2013 : 09:36:45
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Originally posted by Brooklynn
...I really thought that I could just read everything here and find a way to heal on my own,...
... anxiety, depression, and potential diabetes (tests came back fine, just a suspicion on the part of the doctor).
...I thought that finding a logical diagnosis would make me feel a little better,,,,,,,,,and,,,,,,,, the concept of TMS did-------in a way.
........my confidence.
...Since learning about this condition, I've talked to everyone I come across about it because many of my friends and relatives...
However, I've made a break-through with myself today when I realized that I'm putting pressure on myself to get better so I can be an example for the people I care for.
What I want to know is this: Have any of you found yourselves using your journey to TMS recovery as another way to reassure yourself that you are helping others? It seems part of the process is to focus on yourself for once (GASP!). I just seem to be struggling with that particular issue.
...I've only experienced progress in the past few weeks but I got a pretty sharp chest pain today...
....rather it was because I felt like I was failing and would be a disappointment to the people I've shared this with.
The best thing I can do for you is to take care of myself...
Hi BL,
I've had a couple of panic attacks in my life about ten years apart and a person sure can get panicky if they think they are having a heart attack and about to die. When the docs did the EKG's and told me I was healthy and to go climb Everest I was much relieved. They also told me chest pain panic attacks were one of several of the highest reasons for ER visits along with bleeds from taking to many OTC pain killers. I felt good after hearing all this, what did your docs tell you that made you think it wasn't just a "normal" panic attack that was a very common reason to go to the ER?
...I don't think reading "EVERYTHING" here is the fastest way to understanding TMS although it may be somewhat helpful, entertaining and amusing at times. The FasTrak would be to consult with a TMS doc and get the "all cleared" dx structurally--that's a very powerful PLACEBO. If you can't find a TMS doc, next best is read the books, audios and videos, starting with Dr. Sarno's. All you really need is to understand his theory which is very simple and any one of the books will give you that. Then you have to let it sink in, sleep on it, since it may have taken your mindbody most your life to create the thought patterns causing psychosomatic symptoms.
...Anxiety, and depression are TMS affective symptoms, diabetes can also be TMS, there's a section about it in one of Dr. Sarno's books, (also asthma).
...When you learn more about TMS and it sinks in, it will become "LOGICAL" to you on a cellular level and you will be more confident that it is widespread and real like the flu.
...Proselytizing TMS is a "GOODIST" character trait, one of the personality tendencies that gives us TMS. Trust me, you can talk 'til you're blue in the face and maybe one in a hundred will buy it. This is because they are too brainwashed by current the medical/industrial complex thinking and need their TMS symptoms as a psychological defense mechanism for PROTECTION--why deprive them of it?
When you can do good because you want to and not because you feel compelled to, you will do better good and feel gooder about it.
You are on the right track, keep it up, read the books, let it sink in, I like your last line.
Look at the Rahe-Holmes list in my sig for the stressful life situations causing your TMS psychosomatic symptoms--there's the science.
Cheers.
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DR. SARNO'S 12 DAILY REMINDERS:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0dKBFwGR0g
TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale
Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." Jiddu Krishnamurti
"Pain is inevitable; suffering is optional." Author Unknown
"Happy People Are Happy Putters." Frank Nobilo, Golf Analyst
"Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint." Mark Twain and Balto
"The hot-dog is the noblest of dogs; it feeds the hand that bites it." Dr. Laurence Johnston Peter
"...the human emotional system was not designed to endure the mental rigors of a tennis match." Dr. Allen Fox
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"If it ends with "itis" or "algia" or "syndrome" and doctors can't figure out what causes it, then it might be TMS." Dave the Mod =================================================
TMS PRACTITIONERS:
John Sarno, MD
400 E 34th St, New York, NY 10016
(212) 263-6035
Here's the TMS practitioners list from the TMS Help Forum:
http://www.tmshelp.com/links.htm
Here's a list of TMS practitioners from the TMS Wiki:
http://tmswiki.org/ppd/Find_a_TMS_Doctor_or_Therapist
Here's a map of TMS practitioners from the old Tarpit Yoga site, (click on the map by state for listings).:
http://www.tarpityoga.com/2007_08_01_archive.html |
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shawnsmith
Czech Republic
2048 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2013 : 10:01:35
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I would like to add on to Tennis Tom's comment by stating that recovery takes time and patience and rarely takes place overnight. Of course, there are overnight success stories, but generally such people end up getting some other symptom in another part of the body, or a TMS equivalent, such as anxiety, because they have not done the required psychological work. If there was one main message that Dr. Sarno wants to instill into his patients is that there is NOTHING physically wrong with them even though the symptoms appear to indicate otherwise.
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sue1012
USA
31 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2013 : 10:39:42
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A1S - are you a poor metabolizer for CYP-2D6 drugs? I am and it really limits a lot of medications...
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njoy
Canada
188 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2013 : 14:05:35
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Brooklynn asked, "Have any of you found yourselves using your journey to TMS recovery as another way to reassure yourself that you are helping others?". Well, I definitely would but am saved by the fact that nobody listens anymore. They just sort of stare at me with a glazed expression. 
Plum, thanks for my new signature. It's perfect.
"It's worth considering that tms is not a treatment but rather an unfolding of the self, and a way of living as an emotionally aware and engaged soul." Plum |
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plum
United Kingdom
641 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2013 : 15:31:48
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njoy,
I'm stupidly and hopelessly moved. xxxx
*beaming*
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njoy
Canada
188 Posts |
Posted - 03/09/2013 : 14:28:25
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Aww, well you are so worth it.
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"It's worth considering that tms is not a treatment but rather an unfolding of the self, and a way of living as an emotionally aware and engaged soul." Plum |
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Longtime lurker finally posting...
