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Birdie78
Germany
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 Posted - 01/16/2013 : 10:54:45
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And here from her Facebook site
"My name is Nicole Sachs, LCSW and I recently relocated to Rehoboth Beach from New York where I worked extensively with Dr. John Sarno, who has been a groundbreaker in the mental and emotional components of chronic pain and conditions. Our brains are so much more powerful than any of us realize, and by recognizing our repressed painful and angry feelings it is almost miraculous how we can heal ourselves. The idea is simple, but the work it hard. It is, however, well worth the journey"
I haven't read her book yet but I see no reason to mistrust s.o. from the outset!
Kind regards from Germany sends Birdie |
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alix
USA
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Posted - 01/16/2013 : 11:40:11
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That's her separate blog and Facebook. I purely looked at what she said we should look at which is www . meaningoftruthbook . com.
Even the book blog does not reference Sarno.
I then looked at the Amazon page for the book and again, no reference to Sarno in the description, the excerpt, and the reviews.
Several years ago I went foolishly looking compulsively for material. The "It is based on Dr.Sarno BUT bla bla bla" has been in retrospect the most detrimental aspect to my failed recovery then. It systematically instilled a doubt.
Maybe the book is excellent and prove me wrong but I feel very strongly about it. |
Edited by - alix on 01/16/2013 11:41:23 |
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Birdie78
Germany
145 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2013 : 11:44:07
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Several years ago I went foolishly looking compulsively for material. The "It is based on Dr.Sarno BUT bla bla bla" has been in retrospect the most detrimental aspect to my failed recovery then. It systematically instilled a doubt.
Maybe the book is excellent and prove me wrong but I feel very strongly about it.
Ok, alix, from this perspective I can understand your doubts!
Kind regards from Germany sends Birdie |
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alix
USA
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Posted - 01/16/2013 : 12:01:01
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| What disturbs me immensely is the similarity of style between the excerpt and some of the reviews on Amazon. There is a strange use of capitalization of deemed important words in the excerpt of the book. The same odd capitalization of important words is used in the reviews from Amy, Liz,and Jennifer. |
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pspa123
672 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2013 : 12:20:22
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Odd thing to say in a review of a book published two days ago?
"I have witnessed extraordinary transformations take place."
There does seem to be a sameness to the reviews, now that Alix mentions it. Who knows. |
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bryan3000
USA
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Posted - 01/16/2013 : 13:26:10
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Originally posted by pspa123
Odd thing to say in a review of a book published two days ago?
"I have witnessed extraordinary transformations take place."
There does seem to be a sameness to the reviews, now that Alix mentions it. Who knows.
And as I believe you pointed out, it appears there are 6 reviews, 5 of which by reviewers who have only reviewed this product.
The other had only reviewed one other product, and that was about 30 days ago.
It does seem surprising to say the least that so many glowing reviews could come so swiftly by brand new Amazon users
just days after the release of this book.
Regardless, I think the questions arising from some of these circumstances reinforces how tricky allowing salespeople
to peddle wares freely on forum of such a sensitive nature can be.
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pspa123
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Posted - 01/16/2013 : 13:50:32
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quote:
Originally posted by bryan3000
quote:
Originally posted by pspa123
Odd thing to say in a review of a book published two days ago?
"I have witnessed extraordinary transformations take place."
There does seem to be a sameness to the reviews, now that Alix mentions it. Who knows.
And as I believe you pointed out, it appears there are 6 reviews, 5 of which by reviewers who have only reviewed this product.
The other had only reviewed one other product, and that was about 30 days ago.
It does seem surprising to say the least that so many glowing reviews could come so swiftly by brand new Amazon users
just days after the release of this book.
Regardless, I think the questions arising from some of these circumstances reinforces how tricky allowing salespeople
to peddle wares freely on forum of such a sensitive nature can be.
That was Alix's astute observation. I find it hard to believe 6 separate people independently wrote such substantially similar reviews both in terms of content and style, but whatever. |
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catmac
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/16/2013 : 14:05:47
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Welcome to the forum Nicole and thanks for the link to your website/book.
All help is much appreciated when dealing with tms
thanks
catmac |
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bryan3000
USA
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Posted - 01/16/2013 : 14:10:50
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Originally posted by pspa123
quote:
Originally posted by bryan3000
quote:
Originally posted by pspa123
Odd thing to say in a review of a book published two days ago?
"I have witnessed extraordinary transformations take place."
There does seem to be a sameness to the reviews, now that Alix mentions it. Who knows.
And as I believe you pointed out, it appears there are 6 reviews, 5 of which by reviewers who have only reviewed this product.
The other had only reviewed one other product, and that was about 30 days ago.
It does seem surprising to say the least that so many glowing reviews could come so swiftly by brand new Amazon users
just days after the release of this book.
Regardless, I think the questions arising from some of these circumstances reinforces how tricky allowing salespeople
to peddle wares freely on forum of such a sensitive nature can be.
That was Alix's astute observation. I find it hard to believe 6 separate people independently wrote such substantially similar reviews both in terms of content and style, but whatever.
Whoops, yes... credit to Alix for being so on top of things.
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susan828
USA
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Posted - 01/16/2013 : 16:02:14
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It is not my nature to be not nice to people and especially newbies on a message board. However, this is my take since you all gave yours. I don't find the reviews credible.
In addition to Amazon, this book is on lulu.com, which Nicole mentioned to us here. How would 4 of the same people who posted a review on Amazon even know about lulu.com and post the same review there unless Nicole informed them? I know when I post an Amazon review, I don't go to Barnes and Noble to post the same review and I don't necessarily seek out where else the book is and write the same review. Coincidence that 4 people rushed to do this? I think not.
I have an acquaintance on Facebook who just wrote a book and is asking everyone to write a review. So, I looked at his reviews on Amazon and they were all written by his friends and all are positive. Personally, I wouldn't be able to ask people to do that; I don't feel it's ethical. I would welcome a nice review if they bought it and read it but I'd be smart enough to ask them (if they offered) not to put the reviews on within a few days because it looks fixed.
Nicole's book just came out on January 10th. I can't believe that 7 people would know about it so fast (7 strangers) and post a review within 2 days. How nice it would be if word got out about an unknown author's book in 2 days. Just doesn't happen that way.
As far as the post above me...yes, good observation...if these were their first Amazon reviews, it's hard to believe that they never bought another book there and this would be their first...how? How would they know about it, why would they pick an unknown person and not the others that have been around in this field and are famous? And how would they even know about lulu.com? I never heard of it and I am a reader. Sorry, this just rings so false to me that it's disturbing. |
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 01/16/2013 : 16:29:25
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| Thank G_d there was no Amazon back in Jesus's day, if the New Testament was published and the disciples wrote favorable reviews, they would have been decried as biased and not credible. I saw her picture on Facebook and I'd like to be on her couch. This is all too funny, I can see why some would have TMS if they get this worked up over something so innocuous as whether a TMS therapist can mention her book on TMS message board. Get a life. |
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susan828
USA
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Posted - 01/16/2013 : 16:39:55
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Tom, it's not the mention of the book, that's great if it can help even one person. It's the credibility of the reviews that we're questioning. It just doesn't look good for her and lessens her credibility. Most new authors know this and hope that this doesn't happen on their reviews.
It might be a fine book. Seven reviews immediately after its publication looks fixed. It has nothing to do with us having TMS; we just see it that way as insightful people. |
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pspa123
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Posted - 01/16/2013 : 17:06:32
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| Seven reviews that all sound the same (at least three talk about the "unique voice") seems even more fixed. I hope I am wrong. |
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alix
USA
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Posted - 01/16/2013 : 17:20:26
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Who writes a review that says "READ this book. REALLY read it".
The word "really" appears all over her site and 6 times in her reviews.
The title of the book is "The meaning of truth". Being truthful with us would be a good start. |
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pspa123
672 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2013 : 17:24:44
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| The Meaning of Truth is a famous work by the philosopher William James. Aren't titles supposed to be original, just asking? |
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bryan3000
USA
513 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2013 : 17:25:19
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Originally posted by tennis tom
Thank G_d there was no Amazon back in Jesus's day, if the New Testament was published and the disciples wrote favorable reviews, they would have been decried as biased and not credible. I saw her picture on Facebook and I'd like to be on her couch. This is all too funny, I can see why some would have TMS if they get this worked up over something so innocuous as whether a TMS therapist can mention her book on TMS message board. Get a life.
Wow Tom, get a life? If you're going to remain the spokesperson for this forum, don't you think you should at least try to respect the opinions of the members?
A bunch of rational, intelligent people here are making logical cases using obvious factual information. This information makes this most recent salesperson look highly questionable, and your counter-argument is that you think she's attractive and that we "need to get lives."
Oh, then you bring up Jesus? lol!
I'm no biblical historian, but even I know Jesus didn't charge $12.99 plus shipping to heal the sick, fabricate reviews of his miracles or take up billboards in villages. I guess he missed a golden opportunity with those loaves and fishes, huh?
Matt. 10:8:
"These twelve Jesus sent out after instructing them, saying, “Do not go in the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter any city of the Samaritans; 6 but rather go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 7 “And as you go, preach, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is at hand.’ 8 “Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse the lepers, cast out demons; freely you received, freely give. 9 “Do not acquire gold, or silver, or copper for your money belts, 10 or a bag for your journey, or even two tunics, or sandals, or a staff; for the worker is worthy of his support. |
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pspa123
672 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2013 : 17:32:23
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 01/16/2013 : 17:55:20
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Originally posted by bryan3000
If you're going to remain the spokesperson for this forum, don't you think you should at least try to respect the opinions of the members?
A bunch of rational, intelligent people here are making logical cases using obvious factual information. This information makes this most recent salesperson look highly questionable, and your counter-argument is that you think she's attractive and that we "need to get lives."
"Remain the spokesperson for this forum,..." I'm flattered, I never knew I had been appointed to that position, how much does it pay and can I collect retroactively? If nominated I will not run and if elected I will not serve. The person who runs this is Dave and the "spokesperson" as far as I know is the TMS gremlin.
Rationality, intelligence and logic have nothing to do with TMS. Attraction and "getting lives" are far more beneficial.
tt, LSMFT |
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pspa123
672 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2013 : 19:03:44
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Sylvia, your email does not work, I get an error message when I reply. The line is from Jesus Christ, Superstar. |
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bryan3000
USA
513 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2013 : 19:32:00
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Here's her bio on Psychology Today. No mention of Sarno, TMS or mindbody medicine.
Her specialties are : Gay issues, Parenting and Relationship issues, apparently.
http://therapists.psychologytoday.com/rms/name/Nicole+J.+Sachs,+LCSW_Lewes_Delaware_89098
Like the others here, I'm struggling to find mindbody issues, TMS or Sarno referenced in her book description.
Conversely, here is Dr. Schubiner's description of his TMS-related book... also on Amazon...
"Reversing chronic pain is possible by understanding its underlying cause. This book explains that most pain is due to learned nerve pathways. It helps you determine if you have Mind Body Syndrome and how to cure your pain with a revolutionary step-by-step process."
Note the mentions of mindbody pain, chronic issues, etc.
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I am here to help, and I can. PLEASE READ.
