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Sylvia
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 Posted - 12/31/2012 : 11:27:25
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Yesterday husband asked if he could walk with me. I said sure. I didn't tell him where I intended, but off we went. Out the neighborhood, down the street, encountering Tulsa hills and valleys, I wanted to see THROUGH to make it to WalMart and back. He's not saying anything about the distance because he knows I'm doing some sorta Jedi Mind F*k aka Sarno. He exclaims at the turn back home---you are making a 3 mile trek?! His surprise and happiness and pride was not lost on me. I'm the MAN!
This morning I drive by what looks to be a very good condition deep 2 drawer file cabinet put out on the curb. I pull over and see it IS good, it is a Steelcase! Shiite, how is little ol' me gonna put this in my car? I picked this ridiculously heavy piece over and over and over trying to cram it in my little two door sport this way and that way, and all of it in THE POURING RAIN. I got the doors closed and had to strong arm muscle the thing to hold it off the steering wheel to drive it home. Nah, its still in the car, I don't wanna burst my ovaries, I've got a husband afterall to bring it in.
The best things in life are FREE!!
A QUARTER CENTURY OF CFS REVERSING! |
Edited by - Sylvia on 12/31/2012 11:47:25 |
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pspa123
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Posted - 12/31/2012 : 19:25:25
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| Congratulations on the walk and on your recovery from "CFS". |
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 01/01/2013 : 05:27:33
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Good going Sylvia and a nice dumpster dive find on the Steelcase. Just a tip, they are a lot lighter if you remove the drawers--but maybe it all wouldn't fit in your sports car then. What kind of "sport" car do you drive, just curious, I'm a car guy.
No worries on bustin' the ovaries--the ovaries are strong like the back!
Cheers, Happy New Year and enjoy the new file cabinet,
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Sylvia
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Posted - 01/01/2013 : 10:38:07
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Thanks pspa, still recovering (work in progress).
Not much of a sport it is a Ford zx2 escort! I DID take the drawers out, but this sucker was still heavy.
Happy New Year 2013 YAY! |
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pspa123
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Posted - 01/01/2013 : 18:37:31
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| I was convinced for years I had CFS. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. I was just tired from all the stress in my life. It's very counterproductive the way doctors and patient communities medicalize/pathologize problems that in all likelihood are psychogenic. 30 years later have they found the pathogen or the biomarker? BTW there is NOTHING more offensive to someone who identifies themself as a person with chronic fatigue (PWC) than suggesting their illness may be psychogenic. |
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Ace1
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Posted - 01/01/2013 : 19:57:04
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| Yes you bring up a good point. Many people don't want to or are not ready to hear that their illness is psychogenic. It is really not doctors fault bc most people wouldn't accept this type of diagnosis. Very few people work on their mind the way I would like them to even after I explain that tension is the basic cause of their illness. I also think that people who have developed something like cancer are similar to the 10-20% that Dr Sarno said need a psychotherapist to improve and it usually requires a lot of time. After talking to hundreds of patients only maybe 2 with cancer have worked on it somewhat close to this. This is of course random people off the street coming into my office. In dr Sarno's case, people sought him out, so these are people who have already somewhat accepted that their illness s psychogenic and willing to pay a $1000 to see him. I think this just shows you what a general doctor in the population is up against even though it is the truth |
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pspa123
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Posted - 01/01/2013 : 20:46:43
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| Ace1 I hear what you are saying and that's a good point, that even if the doctor gave the psychogenic diagnosis it would be rejected. At the same time I do think there is a role in it all for doctors pathologizing things -- for example, the whole business about 11 of 18 tender points earning someone a fibromyalgia diagnosis, which in turn leads them to the patient forums and the endless tweaking of supplement regimes and dubious tests and the illness-perpetuating vocabularies (e.g. fibro-fog) etc. |
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Sylvia
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Posted - 01/02/2013 : 06:17:51
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I was nocebo'ed into CFS.
In my 20's I got Mono. Enlarge liver, very sick, later jaundiced/hepatitis (maybe I shouldn't have drunk quite so much as a teen : 0
A relative who had gotten her doctorate in psychology told me to be careful as she had a client with chronic epstein barr syndrome, and she literally would have to drop her child on the couch and collapse. There is no cure, yada yada yada. Thanks for the nocebo.
The seed was planted. I was sooo sick and depressed. When I tried to go back to work I couldnt do the job. Ah, the fear, the nocebo, the feeling really bad. I made permanent what should have been post viral fatigue (it takes really long to regain energy after such a bout of illness).
So began education and treatments of any and all kinds.
And here I am to stay because of wonderful SteveO. It can take a longish time not 6 weeks. So now I don't ever give up as I did before with my first Sarno run through. |
Edited by - Sylvia on 01/02/2013 06:19:29 |
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Ace1
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Posted - 01/02/2013 : 07:21:16
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Pspa,
But what is the doctor supposed to say? "I dont know" well, no one would ever go to him, then the patient will go somewhere else to get the same standarized treatment. So the first physician really didnt stop or help anything |
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pspa123
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Posted - 01/02/2013 : 07:30:03
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| Maybe I am misunderstanding you, but are you saying a doctor should tell a patient something he (the doctor) doesn't truly believe (e.g., you have fibromyalgia)? |
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Ace1
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Posted - 01/02/2013 : 07:53:32
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| No just expaining the dilemma they are in and it is understandable why they do what they do and it is very hard to do anything else. Just imagine yourself in this position and you can see why there is very little progress in this field of medicine. Researchers are stuck into looking into the physical realm, so they cant come up with new info to help doctors understand or to truly help people. The reason Im tell you this is so you arent so upset on when the wrong thing is done bc you will have a new understanding in the matter. |
Edited by - Ace1 on 01/02/2013 12:51:34 |
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I'm the MAN...well, with ovaries...
