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EileenTM
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 Posted - 12/09/2012 : 19:39:04
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Thank you Ace 1. I thought it could be TMS especially since I can sometimes stop the symptoms and I have no body pains (because of course I know that those are tms)
How do I feel about aging? To be honest, horrible! Especially in our youth obsessed culture. I remember reading in the Divided Mind that Sarno says that anger at aging can bring on symptoms for the first time which is pretty much what happened to me.
I will work on this because I want to enjoy the time I have. I don't want it to be ruined by symptoms that rob the joy from my life!
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kenny V
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Posted - 12/10/2012 : 11:12:18
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I agree the TMS model can effect an ongoing issue for anyone. Discerning the difference is important to the one working on ridding the problem. However like anything else unless you get to the underlying condition you will have recurring issues or in TMS's case another symptom that we would call a a TMS equivalent
I hope this makes sense I am NOT avocation that any of these symptoms are NOT TMS related. Nor have a TMS component within them . As I am a True Dr Sarno disciple and believer . Recovered by adopting his methodology and using his model to discover my own chronic condition. Example been in Chronic pain for well over 20 years . Now free from pain going on 9 years. Sure from time to time I may get a reminder that I need to empty the tank or resolve and emotional issue . However I am no longer chasing symptoms nor am I experiencing what we call TMS equivalents . I think our bodies are wonderfully designed we need to learn to listen to the signs and give it want it needs to function properly. Fear anger , remorse, guilt are all emotions given to you for a reason. Than you have body symptoms such as pain that are signals too, perhaps a sign that something needs to be addressed as well. For an example when im hungry I eat , thirsty I drink, tired my body need rest....... and so on..
OK on the other side of the coin neither am I saying that these symptoms are NOT something else.... than the TMS model takes over . The Cycle continues....
The key what im saying is when or if this continues .Then so is the viscous cycle of one chasing symptoms . Again the real healing process is when you discover what was the tigers and or reason reasons for the symptoms . Isolating them one by one , asking what else may be an underlying issue that may NOT have been resolved yet. Hope that made sense
Once I argued with an Old TMS veteran ( well more than once) He told me that I always had TMS and I will always have it........ I said that's BS . Because i was not Born with it .. Nor the symptoms that I was experiencing. Logic told me they had to start somewhere.... or get triggered for that matter.
Sorry but for me it was discovering what went wrong connecting the dots to my WHOLE condition whee I came to realize its viscous cycle and Stop it. JMHO the reason why I stopped it was because I understand its origin and function. And all the things that led to the condition. Anyways
Hope that made sense ..for the newbies just do the TMS work prescribed by Dr Sarno for the more advanced . If you get a hiccup then perhaps you have more work to do.( of course we all should know that ) But JMHO .If you continue to get TMS equivalents than one may suggest there is more work to do . Or perhaps there is more to it ( than the only Its TMS) and its your Job to find out why your body is responding the way it does. Remember the body has a unique make up made with many systems that function together. Or go haywire for that matter ..The Auto Immune system is one that is least understood very complex . However it was wonderfully made and designed to work amazing. Our Goal is to understand its role and support what it needs to do its job right .
JMHO There are not many docs who treat the mind- Body and Spirit together . In fact when have you ever visited one....? So If we become our own docs and understand our Bodies in each function we are the best ones to diagnose and fix our issues within.
Again IMO The best Docs are the ones who do not think they are Right about Everything and are still willing to learn and listen to the patient . Same for us learn and listen to your body.
If we have preconceived thoughts that it is this or that nor can be a combination or something else. Than why would we consider to look for other clues to fix the underlying condition. Just saying 
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This is an interesting topic. I am peri-menopausal and had a procedure to stop my heavy periods, uterine ablation (not the hysterectomy that was urged by 3 Md's.). Very recently after the procedure my TMS found a new symptom imperitive -> low back pain ! I am new to TMS and the teachings but already am experiencing fantastic results. I whole hardheartedly believe TMS invades and permeates every body system including states of infection and trauma, including slow healing.
Yea I think a great example brought up menopause I will use this as an illustration
Menopause is perfectly normal for woman period!!!! ( get it period) , its supposed to happen. What do ya think God didn't know woman would be pass child bearing years.....
How come so many woman suffer in some cultures but not in others?
Why develop cultures or those with a preconceived notion they have all these symptoms or need to remove organs else the body wont work right .
BS . In fact in other countries woman consider it as a blessing and an Honor. But here is the USA woman have problems never experienced in other countries and are told they must get rid of organs take meds and such to fix the problem.
In short the woman must educate herself.. and perhaps adjusts her estrogen levels Naturally. Except and understand her change / cycle . Get healthy too.... And then perhaps she may not experience what she was told she is going to.
BTW I know a few woman who were told to have a hysterectomy but refused. Too ... all have gone the “natural route” NO ANIMAL DERIVED ESTROGEN DRUGS. Natural replacments and all are doing just fine .
JMHO there is always hope, sometimes the answer is too simple go back to the beginning and see whats missing
My Best
Kenny v
Always Hope For Recovery
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Edited by - kenny V on 12/10/2012 11:22:41 |
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