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km118
USA
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 Posted - 11/13/2012 : 18:59:18
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I've been on the path to healing my TMS for about two months now. My symptoms were pain down my right leg and into my butt 24/7. I had this pain for about 5 years. I slowly started running, after taking a year off from excercise. Yesterday I bought a gym membership because I really want to get back into shape. It can just be upsetting and hard to run and excercise through pain. Does anyone have any advice on getting back into excercise? What i should be doing during my excerise(as in my mindset, affirmations, etc)? Or maybe how to use excercise to help you heal? I haven't seen to much improvement but I'm holding on to hope! I just feel stuck in a rut and want to get out!
I'm always in pain therefore when I'm running I am also. I try telling myself "nothing it wrong with you. You're strong and healthy" Do I just need to keep practicing this affirmation for it to lead to positive results? Sorry for so many questions, I'm new and confused! |
Edited by - km118 on 11/13/2012 19:51:46 |
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 11/13/2012 : 19:59:51
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Hey, I remember you KM. Joining a gym is a great commitment!--putting your money where your TMS leg/butt pain is, as it were, was or will be soon to be gone. My best advice to learn what it takes to break through the nasty excruciating TMS pain, is read SteveO's book if you haven't already. His TMS started when he was young like you at 14. Read about what he did to kick his butt pain while sitting on his butt. You write very well for a 17 YO.
Cheers & G'luck!
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DR. SARNO'S 12 DAILY REMINDERS:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0dKBFwGR0g
TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale
Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." Jiddu Krishnamurti
"Pain is inevitable; suffering is optional." Author Unknown
"Happy People Are Happy Putters." Frank Nobilo, Golf Analyst
"Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint." Mark Twain and Balto
"The hot-dog is the noblest of dogs; it feeds the hand that bites it." Dr. Laurence Johnston Peter
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"If it ends with "itis" or "algia" or "syndrome" and doctors can't figure out what causes it, then it might be TMS." Dave the Mod
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TMS PRACTITIONERS:
John Sarno, MD
400 E 34th St, New York, NY 10016
(212) 263-6035
Here's the TMS practitioners list from the TMS Help Forum:
http://www.tmshelp.com/links.htm
Here's a list of TMS practitioners from the TMS Wiki:
http://tmswiki.org/ppd/Find_a_TMS_Doctor_or_Therapist
Here's a map of TMS practitioners from the old Tarpit Yoga site, (click on the map by state for listings).:
http://www.tarpityoga.com/2007_08_01_archive.html |
Edited by - tennis tom on 11/14/2012 08:09:04 |
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mala
Hong Kong
774 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2012 : 05:19:32
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Maybe Andy64tms can help . He has started going to the gym and has used a trainer to help him get into shape. I can't seem to locate that particular post though.
good luck
Mala
Mala Singh Barber. I'm on facebook. Look me up
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SteveO
USA
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Posted - 11/14/2012 : 10:32:21
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TTom thanks for recommending my book. I love the humor you bring to life, it's so needed. People need to lighten up. I should also give you a cut of my profits, what exactly is 0 times 0 anyway?
KM if you want to call just me email me for my number. I think I can help you but I need to ask you a few things.
Lots happening in the TMS world. The message is growing in every corner of the world. Some accept it and heal, the others call it non-sense and live in pain forever. Which ones are the dummies?
I received two emails last week from people on this forum who healed. It's always possible if you don't fight the message. Those who cling to their own beliefs don't heal well. Those who fight to label things as "not TMS" don't heal at all because the first order in healing is to understand that the body ok. The very essence of TMS healing is that there's nothing wrong with the body. The body is simply a report card on the person's harmony.
Steve
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andy64tms
USA
589 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2012 : 13:33:27
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Hi Km118, good to see you back.
I signed up for weight training two months ago and got a personal trainer, like you it was a commitment financially and mentally, and I really did not know what I was in for! I signed up for 16 weeks, knowing inwardly that I might cancel if I signed up for less.
During my first year of retirement I have rejoiced by windsurfing four days a week for the whole summer. I was shocked when my weight dropped from 161 to 156 lbs, and I posted my concerns accordingly here. It was Mala who helped soothed my worries. You can read the thread “Andy’s weight loss”, that Mala mentioned.
My motive was to gain the weight back and add weight training to my swim routine, and to be fit for 2013 windsurfing season. It was not to combat my neck pain. What is your motive? I see your pain has kept you inactive and away from running for 11 months, so I would pick an activity that is soft on your body like swimming, one that allows you to keep going. Ask yourself if the thumping of jogging is too harsh. Perhaps try a few different exercise machines with low settings. A session with a trainer for an hour or so would also be of benefit. You have already made an affirmation by joining the gym, so you’re committed, well done.
As for as affirmations, how about, “There is nothing wrong with my butt, no if’s or butts about it”? They can be in song form in tune with the rhythm of your exercise. No one else needs to know, they can be as silly as you want! Ace 1 is the guru for affirmations, read his “Repeating the keys to healing”, he often updates it.
I read your posts you have met SteveO and Dustin, and think their feedbacks about your early concerns are worth re reading.
As you get back into exercising, I hope your worries about your gait and un- aligned hips diminish, for they are physical, and you will be able to focus on the more important physiological and emotional topics. I was once obsessed with my body, I have a crooked neck with a frightening description of: “Straightening of normal cervical lordotic curvature”. It was once again Mala who helped me, as did the rugged image of the Big Wave surfer on TV, who had a neck more crooked than mine.
I'll sign off this one time as:
Buff Andy
Past TMS Experience in 2000, with success.
Back on Wiki Edu Program day 15
Charlie Horse on neck for 20 years. (to be evicted later.)
Books:
Healing Back Pain
Unlearn your Pain
The Great Pain Deception |
Edited by - andy64tms on 11/14/2012 13:38:32 |
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km118
USA
15 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2012 : 18:27:28
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Thank you everyone for your advice!
Andy64tms, when you were beginning to excercise again, I'm assuming you still felt pain induced by your TMS symptoms? If so, how did you work through that? I feel as though that is my greatest struggle at this point. |
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andy64tms
USA
589 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2012 : 20:01:52
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Hi Km118,
I am lucky, the only time I feared my symptoms was before 2000 when I ran through my sciatica pain, since then I have learnt that this action was wrong, but it worked for me at the time because it convinced me my pain symptoms were benign. I then recovered enough to be active and go windsurfing every year. I am an exception, as it seems most people have difficulty resuming exercise. I do have other TMS issues though, that’s why I’m here.
It is essential to overcome the fear of activity that is associated with TMS pain. Balto and SteveO have lots of post about this fear. Also if you read Steve’s book “The Great Pain Deception”, you will get answers to these questions, his story of conquering fear and exercising is epic!
I’m not much of an expert here, but if you have had been checked out by a doctor you have really nothing to lose by trying, go slowly at first to build on your confidence, and don’t expect instant results. Remember exercise to overcome fear and not to combat your pain.
I wish you good results at the gym.
Andy
Past TMS Experience in 2000, with success.
Back on Wiki Edu Program day 15
Charlie Horse on neck for 20 years. (to be evicted later.)
Books:
Healing Back Pain
Unlearn your Pain
The Great Pain Deception |
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km118
USA
15 Posts |
Posted - 11/20/2012 : 16:46:36
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| SteveO I would love to get in contact with you. I tried e-mailing you but maybe it didn't go through? |
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SteveO
USA
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Posted - 11/20/2012 : 18:23:15
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KM, write to me at my site, PainDeception.com. I never received an email from you. I was going to send you one but you didn't list one.
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pspa123
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Posted - 11/21/2012 : 07:58:44
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While my main issue is neck pain, I also have leg issues that sometimes cause me to fear that exercise will aggravate them. While I have these strong automatic negative thoughts telling me not to work out, I have learned to challenge them, in one or more of the following ways.
1. I ask myself, what's the evidence that you have a serious injury? The objective answer is none.
2. I remind myself that often I feel BETTER while I am exercising. That has to be absolutely inconsistent with any serious pathology.
3. I remind myself that the pain seems to change locations and to vary in intensity during the day, again inconsistent with any serious pathology.
4. I remind myself that I have been going through this dance for years and I am not any WORSE, so objectively I cannot be doing any real harm.
5. Finally, I remind myself that the consequences of not working out are probably a lot more serious than the consequences of working out.
I don't know if any of this is relevant to or resonates with you, but I hope it helps. |
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Ace1
USA
1040 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2012 : 09:04:30
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| The affirmations, need a to be in a positive sense, not a negative of a negative. In other words, you dont say I'm not going to blow this or I dont have pain. You want to say the positve like Im going to do great or I feel healthy and strong. But remember the affirmations are to be used to achieve peace, letting go and ease, not to make a body part work better, that just comes along naturally |
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km118
USA
15 Posts |
Posted - 11/22/2012 : 17:33:18
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Thank you all so much for your input I really do appreciate it! Ace: I always affirm myself during a workout by saying "Nothing is wrong with you. You are strong and healthy." Or I will to my subconscious "work with me, you don't have to protect me from my emotions any more, I can handle them", etc. For me, affirmations haven't worked to bring down pain in the moment, yet at least. Perhaps I am not saying the right things to y subconscious, or I just don't have positive reactions to affirmations?
Also, if anyone could provide me with advice. Would getting a personal trainer set me on a positive path, or is it too soon, seeing as how I haven't yet learned how to bring down my pain in the moment. Any advice on how to do this would be awesome also! I've been trying many different strategies and nothing has clicked yet.
Thank you all so much for your advice I would be so confused without you all! |
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Ace1
USA
1040 Posts |
Posted - 11/22/2012 : 17:50:00
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| Km, nothing is wrong with my back is not a good affirmation. It has the negative of the negative as discussed above. It also seems that your affirmations are not directed toward relaxation. Use the ones in my keys to recovery. Try those and give them time to work. |
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km118
USA
15 Posts |
Posted - 11/22/2012 : 18:55:19
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| Thank you Ace, I'm glad to know I'm not approaching my affirmations correctly. What if I went with a "I'm strong and healthy" or a "I'm confident and secure in myself, I forgive easily, I let go of the past". I feel as though these may be a more positive take on affirmations. Thanks so much for your help. |
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Ace1
USA
1040 Posts |
Posted - 11/23/2012 : 08:08:22
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| Forget I'm strong and healthy. Use I'm calm relaxed patient and confident and I take my time, forgive, and let go easily. Be also aware of being impatient and try not to project yourself into the future or to just get things done. Get the book mind power into the 21st century when you get a chance |
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andy64tms
USA
589 Posts |
Posted - 11/23/2012 : 13:48:38
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Hi km118,
I would not get a personal trainer, it’s too soon in your recovery and they might complicate things, I would focus on passive exercise, with mental affirmations. For the present I would go with what Ace1 is suggesting, especially his #10 affirmation regarding exercise, and becoming used to pain. The exercise should not be a burden you should enjoy it while being soft and kind to yourself, (example below).
I would also take SteveO up on his offer of help, as well as getting his book.
I first read Ace1’s post about affirmations in October, and I had picked up on his theme of slowing down. At this time I was removing a tree stump in my back yard. I hate yard work, and am usually very tense, hot and sticky and always uncomfortable. Under normal circumstances I would have become Mr. Macho and aggressively attack it with an axe, hacking away grunting and panting.
As I am now retired with no time restraints, instead I tickled the stump with the axe as if it were a feather. As I nibbled away and small pieces fell off, my sole purpose was to be kind and gentle to myself. I repeatedly had to tell myself to slow down; it was difficult as my instinct was to swing as hard as possible. I finished off the last bits with a 3 ft crow bar, saving my energy even more. I felt very relaxed and satisfied, I disregarded the excessive time that this took to complete.
The whole task was an exercise in kindness, a change in the way I think, it was non-combative and I actually enjoyed it more than usual.
Andy
Past TMS Experience in 2000, with success.
Back on Wiki Edu Program day 15
Charlie Horse on neck for 20 years. (to be evicted later.)
Books:
Healing Back Pain
Unlearn your Pain
The Great Pain Deception |
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LuvtoSew
USA
327 Posts |
Posted - 11/23/2012 : 14:45:00
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Maybe I should get Steve O's book, he had butt pain too. I went to a chiro a few years ago and that lady push three times hard on my sacrum, I think she was trying to push my butt up to my neck, anyway after that disaster I could barely sit for several months , since then I have been to people who worked on the muscles of my coccyx area and just worst. Everyone makes it worst. I did have simple xrays done at my family dr. but he said he didn't see anything.
anyway I do have Sarno's book, and should reread them, but Steve O's book sounds pretty good from many posts here. |
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Ace1
USA
1040 Posts |
Posted - 11/23/2012 : 16:14:42
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| Yes Andy exactly this is what I'm talking about. You really understand what I'm trying to convey. Just keep doing it and you'll be totally cured over time. |
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eric watson
USA
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Posted - 11/23/2012 : 19:20:16
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ace whats wrong with im strong and healthy-no two negs there or is it like you said direct your affirmations toward calmness,or was it because the word feel wasnt added-i get the no strain approach because it has helped me alot.
one more question is there something to the future tense affirmation of im going to do great meant to keep the strain doun ? the im doing great affirmation sounds good too as its in the present or as i told my wife,you could and probably mean im going to do great at what ever i do today,
these affirmations were key to your recovery and they really helped me-im going to get the book mind power-but in the mean time i dont want to hit a neg with a neg,
i see the negs in im not and i dont-thanks |
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Ace1
USA
1040 Posts |
Posted - 11/23/2012 : 20:07:42
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| There is nothing wrong with I'm strong and heathy and it might be helpful. It is just that it doesn't take care of the root cause of the problem. If the root cause is still there, maybe the back will get better, but the illness will shift to something else. The goal s to achieve peace and functional relaxation, then there will be no need for symptoms. It is always important to affirm in the present tense as doing it in the future keeps the goal just out of your reach. |
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km118
USA
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Posted - 11/23/2012 : 20:21:23
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| So Ace, what I gather from your advice is to use affirmations to ease anxiety and bring levels of tension down? Rather than convincing your body of its capabilities, ease the tension within your mind? |
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How to get back into an excercise regime?
