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Wavy Soul

USA
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Posted - 03/13/2012 :  12:03:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Who sent me this book? Was it you?

Yesterday I received an ancient copy of the out-of-print book "The Will to Live" by Arnold A. Hutschnecker, MD. It came from one of those Amazon used book-sellers where you get books for 1 cent plus shipping, except that I don't remember ordering it! Someone possessed my body, probably at 3 am, and somehow googled her way to this book and thought I should read it. My TMS angel?

It's absolutely incredible. He is an MD, and apparently this book "brought the secrets of health and happiness to hundreds of thousands..." in the 1950s. Basically he says that human life is a war between Thanatos and Eros - the will to die and the will to live. Or as we used to call it in the early Rebirthing community, the Life Urge and the Death Urge.

He suggests that death is usually suicide - not the obvious kind, but the kind where you slowly eat yourself away with illness. I haven't finished it yet, but it has already awakened me to the real conflicts that are roiling away in my gut, or my eyes, or my back...

The "real" conflicts in my innards have to do with whether I even want to be here. Now don't get me wrong - I'm a jolly (as well as wavy) soul, and I am surrounded by love and do inspiring life purpose work and so on. I live with a positive attitude, and enjoy the moment. But at a really deep level, part of me is also pissed at God, or Life. It doesn't even make much sense any more to say I'm pissed at mom and dad and my mean sister. It's as though those layers have been cleared out to some extent, to reveal the real conflict underlying all of it.

I knew this before reading the book, but it is sinking in more deeply, and I have had some abatement of symptoms. Arnold quite brilliantly expounds this theme. I highly recommend that you gobble up the remaining copies of this book by going to Amazon and getting them used from their sources.

Determined to live (for now)!

Love is the answer, whatever the question

tennis tom

USA
4749 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2012 :  12:40:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry I can't take credit but you gave a stirring review. Maybe it was Lefty Willner from his tennis locker room in the sky, he read a lot. Seems whoever possessed your body at 3am googling you knew what you were needing.

Cheers,
tt


Edited by - tennis tom on 03/13/2012 12:42:17
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Hillbilly

USA
385 Posts

Posted - 03/15/2012 :  14:22:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wavy,

When you've finished, you might wanna give Thomas Szasz's "The Myth of Mental Illness" a read if you haven't already. I didn't send it either, sorry.

I hate quotations. Tell me what you know.

Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Composer

USA
16 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2012 :  11:09:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He was Nixon's therapist.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/03/us/arnold-hutschnecker-102-therapist-to-nixon.html

and then there's this bizarre twist of thought:

http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/jews/schizo.htm

Edited by - Composer on 04/08/2012 11:14:53
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Wavy Soul

USA
779 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2012 :  21:37:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks, Hillbilly -are you really a Hillbilly, you have awfully sophisticated reading taste! - I ordered The Myth of Mental Illness. ($3 on Amazon).

Wow Composer - are you really a Composer? - that is weird about Arnold being Tricky Dicky's therapist. But in the same article is this: "Dr. Hutschnecker was born in Austria and educated in Berlin. After reading ''Mein Kampf,'' he became a vocal critic of Hitler, family members said, referring to him in public as a pig."

No suppressed rage there! Gotta love him!

Love is the answer, whatever the question

Edited by - Wavy Soul on 04/09/2012 21:37:34
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Hillbilly

USA
385 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2012 :  12:45:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Thanks, Hillbilly -are you really a Hillbilly, you have awfully sophisticated reading taste! - I ordered The Myth of Mental Illness.


Yes, ma'am, I am. I was going to be "mountain sage" at first, then I thought it a bit pretentious and settled for my current, self-effacing moniker. I am living proof that if one is motivated, he or she can get an education regardless of humble beginnings.

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Aided and abetted by corrupt analysts, patients who have nothing better to do with their lives often use the psychoanalytic situation to transform insignificant childhood hurts into private shrines at which they worship unceasingly the enormity of the offenses committed against them. This solution is immensely flattering to the patients—as are all forms of unmerited self-aggrandizement; it is immensely profitable for the analysts—as are all forms pandering to people's vanity; and it is often immensely unpleasant for nearly everyone else in the patient's life.

Dr. Thomas Szasz
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Composer

USA
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Posted - 04/17/2012 :  23:18:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

"Wow Composer - are you really a Composer? - that is weird about Arnold being Tricky Dicky's therapist. But in the same article is this: "Dr. Hutschnecker was born in Austria and educated in Berlin. After reading ''Mein Kampf,'' he became a vocal critic of Hitler, family members said, referring to him in public as a pig."

No suppressed rage there! Gotta love him!"

Yup, I do the composing thing, yup. Hutschnecker's wikipedia article does say that about his reaction to Hitler and Mein Kampf, but the link I posted after that one is really odd and would suggest other opinions.

People are so interesting.
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