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eliuri
USA
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 Posted - 02/29/2012 : 19:32:08
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Hello:
Over the years I've had a number of TMS-type disturbances. They generally go away over time when I see them in perspective. All too often, they later turn up in another form.
Recently, I've been having a flare-up of a cluster of pelvic symptoms generally called: "non-bacterial prostatitis" ---which in reality has little if anything to do with the prostate-- and responds in some measure to recognition of it as being stress-related. It is quite debilitating when it acts up.
At several sessions recently, my therapist did an exercise with me which involved guiding me to focus on various parts of my body and noting the nuances of the sensations there. Without any attempt to alter or "relax" anything!!! Simply to be aware of it and take note of any changes as the "scan " progressed. Also to become aware of what my breathing is like, without trying to change it. Just becoming aware.
Over the course of that 30-45 minute scan, I noticed the sensations move and alter from intense urinary urgency/pelvic pain which I had come in with to intestinal heaviness and pressure and then moved gradually upwards to my temples in the form of a tension headaches and some mild buzzing in one of my ears. Tension headaches are so common for me and they don't bother me much compared to the more painful stuff I had when the sessions began. The headaches too almost disappeared by the time the sessions were over. So I came out of those sessions almost 80% pain free. I knew this effect was probably temporary, but the relief did last overnight. The gradual migration of symptoms upward from pelvic area to head and then out helped reinforce the notion that these various symptoms are TMS-related. But I'm still puzzled as to why such a scan would lead to this welcome migration of symptoms...
I did ask the therapist if there's a specific name for this guided meditation and she wasn't aware of any. She said it was something she had developed for treating post-traumatic syndrome, and the key is awareness rather than trying to alter or relax. She sometimes does something similar with guiding attention around the room to take note of objects, noting their shapes and colors....Generally, meditation makes things much worse, but this approach helped dramatically, even if only for a few hours. So she clearly was doing something different than what is often called "meditation".
Questions:
1) Why would the symptoms move around in the body so dramatically during such a scan? Is this a good sign?
More importantly:
2) Does this method have a specific enough name so I might be able to order tapes online for more regular use at home?
Thanks:
-eliuri |
Edited by - eliuri on 02/29/2012 19:51:12 |
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balto
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Goodney
USA
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Posted - 03/01/2012 : 05:29:28
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| It sounds similar to Vipassana meditation. I just completed a 10 day training in Vipassana meditation in January. I am continuing to meditate twice a day and intend to continue. |
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Goodney
USA
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Posted - 03/01/2012 : 05:32:55
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| You may want to read "Teach Us To Sit Still" by Tim Parks. He suffered with pelvic pain and used Vipassana meditation to heal. Best of luck. |
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eliuri
USA
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Posted - 03/01/2012 : 05:41:04
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Originally posted by balto
It sounded like biofeedback to me. Not sure though.
http://psychotherapy.com/bio.html
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Hi Balto:
No machine or gadgets were used, unlike what I usually associate with biofeedback. But it maybe a similar idea.
We did it interactively several sessions at first, whereby I'd verbalize where the pain was and its quality, changes, etc. I asked to try it non-interactively last time, so that I wasn't giving her any feedback on what was going on. It still worked as before. This is what leads me to think that tape CD's would work in same manner if they use similar approach, though non-interactive.
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Goodney: I'll look into Vipassana, but as I said, generally meditation makes things like this worse for me, but maybe that's a different kind. For example, no attempt was made to "empty the mind" at all.
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Edited by - eliuri on 03/01/2012 05:53:44 |
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Wavy Soul
USA
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Posted - 03/01/2012 : 08:25:04
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I like Monte Hueftle's tapes a lot - I often fall asleep playing them. He's a TMS dude who teaches methods that are quite good and original, and I think his website for downloading audio is runningpain dot com
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MainEventMike
USA
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Posted - 03/01/2012 : 10:19:22
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Originally posted by eliuri
Hello:
Over the years I've had a number of TMS-type disturbances. They generally go away over time when I see them in perspective. All too often, they later turn up in another form.
Recently, I've been having a flare-up of a cluster of pelvic symptoms generally called: "non-bacterial prostatitis" ---which in reality has little if anything to do with the prostate-- and responds in some measure to recognition of it as being stress-related. It is quite debilitating when it acts up.
At several sessions recently, my therapist did an exercise with me which involved guiding me to focus on various parts of my body and noting the nuances of the sensations there. Without any attempt to alter or "relax" anything!!! Simply to be aware of it and take note of any changes as the "scan " progressed. Also to become aware of what my breathing is like, without trying to change it. Just becoming aware.
Over the course of that 30-45 minute scan, I noticed the sensations move and alter from intense urinary urgency/pelvic pain which I had come in with to intestinal heaviness and pressure and then moved gradually upwards to my temples in the form of a tension headaches and some mild buzzing in one of my ears. Tension headaches are so common for me and they don't bother me much compared to the more painful stuff I had when the sessions began. The headaches too almost disappeared by the time the sessions were over. So I came out of those sessions almost 80% pain free. I knew this effect was probably temporary, but the relief did last overnight. The gradual migration of symptoms upward from pelvic area to head and then out helped reinforce the notion that these various symptoms are TMS-related. But I'm still puzzled as to why such a scan would lead to this welcome migration of symptoms...
I did ask the therapist if there's a specific name for this guided meditation and she wasn't aware of any. She said it was something she had developed for treating post-traumatic syndrome, and the key is awareness rather than trying to alter or relax. She sometimes does something similar with guiding attention around the room to take note of objects, noting their shapes and colors....Generally, meditation makes things much worse, but this approach helped dramatically, even if only for a few hours. So she clearly was doing something different than what is often called "meditation".
Questions:
1) Why would the symptoms move around in the body so dramatically during such a scan? Is this a good sign?
More importantly:
2) Does this method have a specific enough name so I might be able to order tapes online for more regular use at home?
Thanks:
-eliuri
Dr. Schubiner does something like this in his meditation CD that's in his workbook.
Mike
http://tensionmyositissyndrome.blogspot.com/ |
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lesley
New Zealand
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Posted - 03/01/2012 : 19:45:47
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An excellent book is Jon Kabat-Zinn's, "The Full Catastrophe", and his meditation tapes/CD's. His first CD is a guided body-scan meditation, exactly as you describe...it takes three quarters of hour. The book gives full and detailed instructions on how to do the meditation. I've used it now for quite a long time and have been helped tremendously with reduction of tension, pain, panic, fear, etc. I can't recommend it highly enough.
Another author, healing practitioner I've found to be very helpful too, is Ingrid Bacci. She has two books, "The Art of Effortless Living" and "Effortless Pain Relief". Both books are excellent. She also offers a set of excellent CD's. The one I use most is again, a guided body-scan meditation that leads on to a very gently breath meditation. I often fall asleep when using either of Jon's or Ingrid's CD's!!!! Again, I'd urge everyone to explore both of these healer's materials.
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Guided "Body Scan" -type of Meditation for TMS
