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 Broken promise; advice needed. Sorry.
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Darko

Australia
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Posted - 05/18/2011 :  18:06:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree with Art's last post ( we're making a habit of this mate )

I think it's pretty obvious that you CAN have complications as a result of surgery......hell, a million things can go wrong!

However we are talking about your case specifically......which it is my opinion based on what you have described and been told, that it's not physical. NOW, I could be totally wrong, and I'm ok with that......but why don't you prove me wrong and then you will know for sure what is going on without all the emotion and mental turmoil.

Forget about the issue for a while, you can't do anything about it even if it is physical so why torture yourself. Instead focus on the things YOU CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT. Focus on the parts of your personality which would contribute to TMS, or to the pain if it were to be emotional......you know what they are. Focus on changing the way you think so you don't have the anger, bitterness and money concerns. Address this stuff because it's all you can do RIGHT NOW.....there is no point focusing or trying to work out what is going on with the scar, it seems your going in circles.....it's there...........ACCEPT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Make peace with your life situation.....cause no amount of struggle will change it. If you don't like it work at changing it with the right state of mind

Remember you can't push something away from yourself, you can only attract something different. Right now you seem to be pushing.

I have been to hell and back so many times, that all the demons had a surprise birthday party for me last year. The most important thing I can tell you is this. Sometimes the only way out of a situation is to go through it......there is no side door or turning back. You have got to get control of what is happening in your head and pass through this.

The universe is a funny place.....you can run from lessons for a period of time, and then you will be given NO CHOICE. It might not make sense and seems cruel but that's because the mind is playing the victim.

I suggest you focus on the emotional stuff for a while get it sorted out for your own sanity and peace......and if the issue is physical then you'll have a more level and calm head to approach it. If by chance it is physical then there is no point hating and being angry at the very people that might be able to help you....


Edited by - Darko on 05/18/2011 18:10:29
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Back2-It

USA
438 Posts

Posted - 05/18/2011 :  19:57:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Darko...

quote:
However we are talking about your case specifically......which it is my opinion based on what you have described and been told, that it's not physical. NOW, I could be totally wrong, and I'm ok with that......but why don't you prove me wrong and then you will know for sure what is going on without all the emotion and mental turmoil.


Based on what I was told is that I had a back problem. I DON'T. NEVER DID. Nobody or any doctor has delved into the scar area or my abdomen. They assumed it was referred pain, like siatica in the leg. But as I pointed out the disc pathology was not correct for the symptoms.


I'm in a devil's qaundry because of all the previous doctors and things that weren't covered, not to mention the deductible from the surgery. It all adds up. That's why the money problems.

If the issue is physical, then, yes, you can reach some level of acceptance. It's when you don't know what the hell is going on is when you are in turmoil.

My mental wrestling now is along these lines: do I go further and see if anything is binding up, or not? Do I do what so many have done here and make sure that there is nothing "physically" wrong, or what?

I mean, that's the advice from The Man himself: make sure you're not really broken somewhere, right?

And if there is a physical problem, say the damned nerve is getting yanked this way and that when I walk and stand, then OK. Even if there is squat to do about it, then I'll at least have some kind of peace.

Not even sure there are tests for that sort of thing.

You reach real low points sometimes. I've made life changes I've had to make, and will make more. So whilst I've been living with this torment I've still been living.

So now it's time to go back to my promise and sign off.

Thanks to all. God Bless.





"Bridges Freeze Before Roads"

Edited by - Back2-It on 05/18/2011 20:14:07
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yogaluz

USA
81 Posts

Posted - 05/18/2011 :  20:30:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Since you've signed off B2I, not sure if you'll read this but sometimes when I'm in the throws of TMS, I remember my grandfather who had a massive gallbladder removal surgery when he was in his 50's. Back then they cut you open from armpit to navel and I would say his scar always looked deep and angry. The man just never slowed down. He told me it was painful at times but he just didn't THINK about it. He went to work, came home and mowed the lawn in the summer and shoveled snow in the winter, and then he would come inside and have a beer and laugh. Was he in constant pain as a result of his surgery? He would never admit to that but sometimes I'd see him hunched over and sweating. I think his secret was that he didn't dwell. And so I'm trying not to dwell and obsess when my gallbladder feels swollen (it actually catches on my ribs!) and sure as f'ing not, the pain goes away and the 'swelling' goes down. This trickery is a bitch but I always try to remember my grandfather and it helps.
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lara

USA
101 Posts

Posted - 04/22/2012 :  07:49:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Back2-It

Art,

I've learned a lot on these forums, about anxiety and TMS, etc. Also in reading and in classes. I have, I think-I hope, learned how to recognize the anxiety fears and health anxiety fears and symptoms and to push them back and understand them. I also recognize from my past that I had many TMS/anxiety/ physical symptoms. Never knew until I got here what those weird things were.

The one thing I never did was eliminate the possibility of some type of nerve involvement in the surgery scar tissue in my gut. I was at once diagnosed as having a "back problem" and things took off from there. The front and side pain, the initial cause of my sinking to this state, never went away.

I fear that just like some with other problems or supposed back problems had to eliminate a "structural" defect, I think I may have to eliminate a "structural" problem in that area. If it can even be done. If there is no plausible cause then I can safely assume TMS.

I'm going to think on it for a week or so and decide what to do.

I appreciate everybody's responses, and if any more have any, please feel free. Yes, I have been testy. It's one of my personality defects. I've come a long way, thanks in a big way to the people on this forum. I would probably never have had the courage to jog, bike or do anything without reading about it on here.

Yes, I am bitter against doctors. I don't know, really, if they are all in it for the money, but when they tell you you'll never recover or that you are a freak case (over and over) it got to me. If I practiced the same lack of customer service and "listened" as little as most doctors do to what you are telling them, I would be broker than I already am.

That's why I have to think on even trying to have anything looked at in my scar area. More guessing will be the result, probably.



"Bridges Freeze Before Roads"



Well my chronic pain started after a surgery,and my journey started visiting a combo of doctors ,13 in total ,until i found one that said directly to me ,nerve pain due to scar tissue ,this adorable doctor put me on neurontin that helped but i was still in pain,so he suggested to go and see this acupunturist that he knows and again God bless my dr and acupunturist,i did try TMS approach but sorry guys it just didn't work form me,how would it work if i was having a real problem with scar tissue? i have been working with my doctor,my acupunturist and 2 months ago the acupunturist sent me to this chiropractor ,trust me i was extremely sceptical seeing him but i went and boom all together put me on track ,i am now doing a lot around the house,i am walking 2 miles daily,i do shopping,i go to restaurants ,i am visiting my hair salon again in months! and having my manicures,pedicures etc,i visit family,friends,i even went to the gym yesterday,swam,used the sauna etc,I AM NOW HAVING A LIFE.i can't beleive that 3 months ago i couldn't even sit,walk for more than 20 minutes,bend or go out to have fun.I knnow i still have a long road of recovery but for me TMS,wasn't the answer,at least didn't give me this great sensation of getting my life back.
By the way my chiro uses D.N.F.T and my acupunturist is my savior.

Lara
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balto

839 Posts

Posted - 04/22/2012 :  08:13:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Histrionic personality disorder.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histrionic_personality_disorder
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tennis tom

USA
4749 Posts

Posted - 04/22/2012 :  11:24:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Whatever works, g'd luck to you.

Cheers
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