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Carol
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 Posted - 01/25/2005 : 18:00:43
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Do any of you have this problem along with your TMS? I'm not sure of the spelling. I looked it up in my computerside dictionary, and I can't find it. Anyway, it is a condition where one or more fingers go completely white on occasion. It is especially bad when it is cold, but can occur at any time.
I am asking this question on behalf of my daughter, who has had many weird things over the years, including numbness in various places, tingling, especially in her left arm below the elbow, (diagnosed as a problem with the ulnar nerve), and our old favorite back pain. She has been evaluated for possible MS, but so far everything is negative. Although she has not read Sarno, she does believe that much of her problems are stress related. The Reynauds is becomming especially bad though. Sometimes all of the fingers of one hand will go completely white. She has to run them under warm water to get the color back. She also carries hand warmers with her whenever she is out in the winter. Interestingly, she went skiing yesterday and had no trouble with her hands at all.
Anyway, she is very concerned about the escalation of the problem, which she has had since childhood. She is going to see a doctor within the next couple weeks to see if there is anything that can be identified. She is going through a very tough time with her marriage, and two children who both have hearing problems, and one with a neurological disorder. So she sure does have plenty of reason to have TMS symptoms at this time. Any feedback from anyone who has experienced this as a TMS equivalent would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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Kavita
USA
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Posted - 01/26/2005 : 06:10:19
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Dear Carol,
Raynaud's is discussed on page 111 of Sarno's MindBody prescription. My mother has it, though she does not have TMS. I have TMS, and possibly a minor form of Raynaud's. I get red bumps on my fingers during the cold months, that are very sensitive to touch, and I lose feeling in my fingers very quickly. It is also spelled Reynaud's in the medical literature.
As I child I had leg cramps, a TMS equivalent. I would encourage your daughter to read the Mindbody Prescription by Sarno to see if she has any of the many TMS equivalents described. There is also an excellent discussion on the stress that we all carry about how it can affect us - unconsciously as well as consciously. Whether your daughter has TMS or not, she can benefit from the information provided by Sarno. Good luck, and let us know how it goes. |
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Baseball65
USA
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Posted - 01/26/2005 : 06:17:04
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Hello.
I too experienced reynauds type symptoms in both feet for years....No matter how many pairs of socks I would wear,how hard I would stamp my feet,they would be totoally numb.
When I read HBP,I read about it and saw how it was just part of the larger problem and it all but evaporated....I started to laugh when it came......I never went to a Dr. about it,but I know if I did I would have been given the "diagnosis"...
I also posted on the "trigger finger" post about my thumb going numb,and treating it as TMS as well,and of course it went away.
peace
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Carol
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Posted - 01/26/2005 : 08:59:17
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Thanks for your responses. I have told her about the MBP. I am going to give her my copy to read. I thought I had read something about Raynauds in MBP, but couldn't find it when I looked. Now I will be able to give her the specific reference. (thanks for the spelling correction).
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Kristin
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Posted - 01/28/2005 : 18:47:13
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Yes I do have experience with Raynauds. My grandfather had it, myself and my daughter have it. My mother also had superficial frost bite which I would also get occasionally but not in many years. I generally have cold extremities. Its so frustrating because the times it strikes can be pretty random. If its related to muscle tension and lack of circulation it makes sense. Actually its been a bit more pronounced the last few days when I am having neck/shoulder TMS.
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Suzanne
USA
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Posted - 01/29/2005 : 10:42:28
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I have the symptoms of what is called "Raynaud's phenomenon", or Raynaud's Syndrome. I didn't have any problems prior to when my TMS symtoms started. I never really gave this much thought until reading your post!
My endocrinologist diagnosed me with Raynaud's phenomenon after I went to her because I was always freezing, and shivering at the office, while everyone else was fine. My internist also felt I had this due to my always being colder than normal and shivering, having extremely cold hands and needing to wear gloves indoors most of the winter. (I wear fingerless gloves almost daily, indoors, all winter long) The doctor said my hands and feet would be cold, and yes, they were. But my torso was also cold...I was freezing in general. I was still dx'ed with Raynaud's.
My grandmother had this, but she was a smoker. (see http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4687)
I'm going to ask about Raynaud's and TMS, since I really cannot recall ever having a problem prior to the last 5 years or so, and the TMS is also a recent thing. In fact, if anything, I used to always run hotter than most. |
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pault
USA
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Posted - 01/30/2005 : 07:31:21
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| Raynauds sounds like a blatant form of tms,as lack of blood circulation is the problem.My wife has a pretty severe case of it and her fingers turn white,and as previously stated has to run them under warm water to get the circulation back.I know for a fact she has the stratergy in her brain for an acute attack as soon as she realizes it is cold or is going to be cold.What better distraction is there than that? You cannot ignore it,it's very fast,it is undenyably there,it attracts attention unconsciously or consciously.In terms of serving the brain what could be better? Now if only I could get her to buy into the tms cure.I have seen times when it is warm and she will have an attack,based on that I am sure it is tms.It sounds like a tough one to correct,as we all get a certain amount of it when cold.Carol I don't think there is any harm with this as long as She gets her hands warm and the color comes back. With all the problems you stated,there is no wonder why She has tms.If She reads TMBP several times it will help greatly.Remind Her She will gain more each time She reads it,as Her unconscious mind will relate to it more as time passes.She will have to think psycologically not physically,especially with Doctors telling you otherwise. Good Luck to You Guys. Paul. |
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Carol
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Posted - 01/31/2005 : 09:44:18
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Thanks everyone. The link to the Raynauds article was especially helpful. I have never had Raynauds, but my hands and nose are cold a lot, and my feet on occasion. When they get cold my whole body feels cold. I can't sleep and sometimes I have to get up and soak them in hot water. As soon as my feet are warm the rest of me is too. I never associated this with Raynauds until your posts, but it does make sense that they are related.
I still haven't convinced my daughter to read MBP, but I won't stop trying. She is already part way to understanding, as she already believes that much of her symptoms are stress related. she doesn't understand why she should read the book, or why it might help her. I have tried to explain, but so far no go! I'm not giving up though.
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pault
USA
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Posted - 02/06/2005 : 16:54:44
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| Carol , Just remind Her ,the information is the Cure~ |
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robbokop
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/10/2005 : 06:45:51
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Hi all.
I'm really stuck with this Reynaud's thing at the moment. I can't remember if it started after I read this post but it has been the last few months. I suppose I am obsessing about it quite a lot - it is hard to ignore because it is affecting me when I'm playing piano, typing on the keyboard etc. It doesn't actually stop me doing things but is right there being annoying - the gremlin has chosen a good spot to use to distract me. It is obviously TMS because it gets worse at specific times. Like Suzanne said in her post below, it can affect my whole torso so I'm shivering when it's warm. If I break my daily routine and do something completely different it goes away, likewise when I'm relaxing on a Sunday!
I thought if I wrote about it on the forum it may help to get rid of it. I know that I've let my work with Sarno etc slip a bit, and am not giving myself the time to work through psychological causes etc. So, better get back to it.
Thanks,
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