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saralou
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 Posted - 06/28/2010 : 13:48:50
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thanks tom i'll keep it in mind...i've calmed down a lot today. i'm kinda going with the flow of whatever happens happens to my teeth. the fear base of thinking i might need 3 root canals if all teeth die was kinda taking over...so i'm just going to take one day at a time and do whatever i have to do to try and get rid of the pain. i think the one tooth is def dead but hopefully the other 2 are fear based reactions because whats happened to the first filling.
anyway will see what ent says tomorrow as i'm having lots of sinus/cheek pain at the same time |
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 06/28/2010 : 15:21:58
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Originally posted by Wavy Soul
yo Tennis Tom
Good to see you back here. x
Love is the answer, whatever the question
Hi Wavy, likewise. I'm looking forward to the new TMS book coming out by Dr. Sarno's therapist associates, I'm due for a TMS Knowledge Penicillin Booster.
Sorry to report our mutual friend Lefty passed away of cancer about a year ago. I'm involved with a tournament that's being put on honoring him later this year.
Cheers,
tt
Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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alexis
USA
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Posted - 06/28/2010 : 18:17:58
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Hi Saralou,
The good news is that while talking about tooth problems sucks for TMSers and hypochondriacs, the rest of the world loves a good root canal story.
And when you're out of the TMS hole, and done with your root canals, having 3 of them will only make a better story. The old folks you hear laughing about their ills are the happy ones -- and while we may not have the ills we once imagined, we're all on our way to crumbling.
Yeah, that's not the perspective for anyone still TMSing hard, but I think that's where you've got to go in the end...because if your teeth don't fall out you're going to end up incontinent or need a hip replacement or have cancer or alzheimer's. And if you can't learn to laugh early at the small stuff (like a root canal) it's going to suck you dry.
I actually found that Terry Pratchett was as good TMS therapy as anything - really learning to revel in and laugh at the bad, as well as the good, of the human condition was to me a vital part of recovery.
That said, when I have to get my next root canal I plan to bitch and moan from the moment of diagnosis until 12 hours post-procedure. Then the next day I'll regale my coworkers with the story. They've got some good tooth hell stories, though, so I don't know that a measly root canal can keep up.
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Wavy Soul
USA
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Posted - 06/28/2010 : 19:29:37
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Hi Tom - Sorry to hear about Lefty - hopefully they don't have TMS where he went.
Alexis and co - yeah, you've gotta larf. I'm with ya.
And as a result of above-mentioned earlier dental trauma, I had about 6 root canals and I've been dining out on the stories ever since (20 years or so). One was done in my bedroom by a traveling dentist.
And now I'm pretty sure I would never have had them I've I'da known what I knows nows...
Love is the answer, whatever the question |
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alexis
USA
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Posted - 06/28/2010 : 19:44:07
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Originally posted by Wavy Soul
And as a result of above-mentioned earlier dental trauma, I had about 6 root canals and I've been dining out on the stories ever since (20 years or so). One was done in my bedroom by a traveling dentist.
Omg! Now THAT's the kind of story I need to compete with my coworker's tales of 10 implants and repeated gum reconstructions.
Actually, I have one crown that's so silky smooth I like it better than my real teeth...so I guess in the end I got off lucky. Or maybe I just forgot the horror. :) |
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alexis
USA
596 Posts |
Posted - 06/28/2010 : 20:12:48
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Originally posted by saralou
... it seems my recent dental work has upset balance of mouth even thou dentist said all teeth touch fine and fillings weren't too high. i think one side of mouth shuts more than other...but i don't know if it's always been like that or not it might have as i have a wisdom tooth thats higher on one side than the other. maybe it's just as it's chnaged now and i'm anxieous it's messed up so u get vicious circle of pain/clenching every night. i might get nightguard but some people say they promote clenching and u should try and find root cause of it in anxieites for it to stop.
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I went through this a few years back, worrying about how my teeth closed wrong. Finally one of the dentists said to me "You know, you aren't really supposed to have your teeth touching each other most of the time." I really didn't know that! I'd been sitting around with my teeth touching thinking all the time about how they no longer were a perfect fit--not realizing they shouldn't be "shut" at all. She also pointed out that it was mostly just people who thought about their teeth that noticed these minor bite issues.
This was all before I discovered TMS and the like, but was sort of an early first discovery about how my mind could whip up a problem like this. Now on the rare (maybe once every few months) occasions I think about it I notice my bite isn't quite even - but really most unevenness is only a problem if you're clenching. I go through that cycle sometimes, but it always goes away. Sometimes for a few days I use a front tooth (from dentist) bite guard -- its not perfect but can be a help.
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saralou
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Posted - 06/29/2010 : 07:10:56
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thanks for your posts about bite issue alexis..that is a major concern of mine now i think more than the teeth. I think whats happened is i've had the same bite for 35 years and now it's changed. The fact that the teeth with the new fillings are sore prob doesn't help eitther especially the one thats died.my dentist told me that bite will feel wrong while the tooth is sore. so maybe once root canal is done it will die down. Also i think i have started clenching at night. i don't know if i've always done it or if the stress or all this tooth stuff is causing it or if it's my brain trying to get bite in right place. I prob do need a biteguard but at moment all the money is going to go towards a root canal/crown so maybe once they are done i'll get the guard! maybe i'll ask dentist what she things about using a cheaper guard until then.
I went to the ENT dr today as they were worried it was sinus prob and not teeth..he's not really sure so has ordered a ct scan of sinuses to check..at least then i'll know it's not anything else. Trouble is i have to wait 4 weeks for ct scan and to see him again so have booked the root canal for next friday. I wanted to try the tms approach on it but it has too many things going against it.
1. pain for 3months
2. slight darker spot above root on xray (although not 100%)
3. no response to cold
4. no response to electric current
5. large bony lump on gum above it with pain radiating to cheek
so i think this tooth has def had it. even thou don't know why a change in filling would cause it to die.
I'm just hoping the other 2 teeth settle down and get better
like you said alexis i guess as we get older sh*t happens and i guess at the end of the day they are only teeth..not eyes or arms or legs
as i am diabetic the threat of blindness/amoputation scares me so i should be grateful that for now it is somthing fixable.
am going to start the divided mind again tonight as never finished it before
thanks for your help guys x
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saralou
39 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2010 : 07:59:12
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also wavysoul? how did you end up having so many root canals on those teeth?? was it everyone that had a replacement filling??? did they do all the tests to see if they were dead or were u just in so much pain?
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Wavy Soul
USA
779 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2010 : 10:43:05
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so much pain I couldn't live and of course they did the tests...
but you know, even death can be tms and it's a REALLY good special effect! 
Love is the answer, whatever the question |
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saralou
39 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2010 : 12:10:51
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yes wavysoul..know what u mean...sure my 'dead' tooth that didn't respond to cold in dentist did in the house the other day...i had a bad day today after going to the hospital..think it all freaks me out all the time i take off work these days too..it's a relatively new job so they must think i a proper hypochondriac!!! was also worrying aboyt financial aspect as this is a private dentist after going to cheapo NHS one who started all this!!
anyway am going to start reading the divided mind later..maybe it'll calm me down a bit..
oh twinge in non refilled tooth now...they are def playing tricks on me me thinks!! |
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saralou
39 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2010 : 09:02:42
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having a bad day today...have been trying to work on tooth pain being tms. i had booked the 1 root canal for tomorrow but now have sore throat/cough/cold and feel like crap so have had to delay it...
just wondering if its my body trying to stop me from having it as
1 i'm not 100% sure it'll solve it
2. i am sh*t scared of having it.
so today am feeling really sorry for myself just lying in bed with head/face/cheek pains oh and earache which is making me think tmj from clenching...
i'm also thinking my body is ill to try and make me slow down and rest as i'm exhausted from all the worry..
any words of advise? |
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 07/01/2010 : 11:14:27
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Hi Saralou,
Words of advice, firstly ask your doc for some tanquilizers, you are so tightly wound-up I doubt you could do the inner-reflection that is the TMS work. I recall in my college days when I was going through a very rough patch a kindly doctor saw how nervous and depressed I was and rx'ed me some Libriums--calmed me down quite nicely.
Earlier this year I had some exstensive dental work. At first they wanted to give me an implant and then the pereodontist said let's give it a go and save the tooth and do a root-canal and a crown instead. The work stretched out over several months, and was costly but was successful. I am actually one of the few people on the planet who enjoys sitting in the dentist chair and find them comfortable and relaxing outside of a few moments of pain (maybe I have some sado-masochistic tendancies?). The periodontic work was pretty painful for some moments, (ask for more pain-killer). The perio doc even had a TV in front of the chair.
So, I guess it boils down to your perspective, I look forward to my teeth cleanings. I get them quarterly and relax in the chair almost like an accupuncture session (which has been proven not to work), and very rarely get a cavity due to the frequent cleanings.
As for your head-cold, yes, it's TMS. Your auto-immune system has given you a crutch to avoid the dental work you are so dreading. Deepak Chopra, says "Staying home with a cold is the Western form of meditation". Get some tranquilizers.
CYA Disclaimer: I am not a doc, only a tennis player, take my advice at your own risk.
Cheers and Good Luck,
Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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Singer_Artist
USA
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Posted - 07/01/2010 : 11:26:20
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| Sorry about the loss of your friend, Lefty, TT..I just found out that a friend from high school passed..Life is so short..Thanks for your support on my other post..Just got back on here today.. |
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saralou
39 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2010 : 14:40:57
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thanks for advise tom..i do worry about taking antidepressants/tranquillizers thou..i don't think i can bring myself to take them...think my personality type.would make me feel liked i failed. anyway thanks for replying
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 07/02/2010 : 10:40:20
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Originally posted by saralou
thanks for advise tom..i do worry about taking antidepressants/tranquillizers thou..i don't think i can bring myself to take them...think my personality type.would make me feel liked i failed. anyway thanks for replying
sara
You are exhibiting some TMS traits:
Fear of leaving your homeostasis if you take a pill. I fear hypnosis because I know nothing about it, but I've heard it may have some beneficial effects for TMS'ers.
Fear of failure, an aspect of inferiority complex which TMS'ers share.
Good luck and keep reading your Sarno for TMS knowledge penicillin.
Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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alexis
USA
596 Posts |
Posted - 07/03/2010 : 08:40:11
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Originally posted by saralou
thanks for advise tom..i do worry about taking antidepressants/tranquillizers thou..i don't think i can bring myself to take them...think my personality type.would make me feel liked i failed. anyway thanks for replying
sara
Hi saralou. I don't know at all if you would benefit from medication - just that some people do, and when you can't recover on your own it would be worth considering. But I would be a little cautious about making medical decisions based too heavily on what you see as your "personality type".
I love the whole MBTI and Big 5 thing -- it's all what I call "horoscopes for the slightly more skeptical". But it's really only "slightly more accurate", and boxing yourself in can cause you to make decisions and react in less than ideal ways. Even if it's a box you've defined yourself. It's very unlikely that you really are a consistent "personality type" unless you've been training yourself into it for years.
The crown I really love, btw, is white gold. I prefer it to my natural teeth. This whole discussion has just reminded me of how much I love this tooth. Sometimes I wish all my teeth were white gold - though it would look funny and obviously be ridiculous. But the crown itself really is that nice. |
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saralou
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Posted - 07/03/2010 : 10:45:33
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hi guys
thanks for all the advise reguarding medication but i really don't want to take any. i'd rather get through all this without it. after all it was only 3 fillings that has caused it so i don't want to end up on anti depressants/tranquillisers because of it. I've been ill the last few days with somekinda cough/cold virus thing so been taking the chance to rest. hopefully i'll get the root canal done next week now. the other 2 teeth i'm not sure about. will just wait it out i guess and try and keep telling myself it's tms.
thanks again guys
p.s i didn't know you could get white gold crowns..sounds lovely. i'll prob get porcelin one as u can see the tooth when i smile :-) |
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alexis
USA
596 Posts |
Posted - 07/03/2010 : 19:19:12
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I agree you likely don't need meds and really worry only because I know there are a few other people reading this who really do need more help and yet still have similar hesitations about exploring medication. From what I've seen and read many people who have tried everything really do get help. I only once had a single anti-anxiety pill, but from just that I could really see the potential uses first hand.
I have a pocelain crown near the front too. I can't actually remember which tooth now ... maybe it was a partial crown? Two of the molars are visible if I look closely, because one you can see the ridge at the base and the other is the white gold that looks a little different (though hard to see).
I guess I should know my teeth better than that, but after worrying about teeth a lot a few years back I kind of like that I don't really think past basic maintenance. I'm not actually 100% sure how many root canals I had...I think one tooth was done to fix a crack. I remember on the near-front one the big question was whether I planned to whiten my teeth in the future - picking the color based on unknown future decisions is a little hard.
Good luck with the tooth and I hope the other two turn out not to need anything! |
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saralou
39 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2010 : 07:33:22
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hi guys
still having a rough time..the toothache seems to have died off somewhat and only occurs now when i eat. i'm still due for root canal friday as the mysterious lump above the tooth on gum still there. i've not been to work since last week as i've now got some kinda cold/cough virus and it's totally drained me..i can hardly get outta bed. so just resting. hardly slept last night and hubbie said i was clenching in sleep..i've noticed now my ears are crackling too so hope i've not got tmj starting or there will be more issues then..dying teeth, bad bite and tmj symptoms....i'm so down i just can't see an end to it. i'm diabetic type 1 too and all this is affecting my blood sugars no end as i can't eat properly and all the worry etc..anyway sorry to moan will let u know how root canal goes x |
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saralou
39 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2010 : 14:01:59
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tooth update;
got root canal today tooth was def DEAD..didn't even need numbing!
it is infected too so hopefully the lump will go now. so for this time wasn't tms. although dentist can't figure why tooth died as filling wasn't near nerve etc etc..guess i'll never know!
anyway thanks for all u'r help guys x |
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Teeth and root canals
