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jerica
USA
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 Posted - 03/06/2010 : 09:04:26
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I went to see my cardio doc yesterday.l Appt was for 4pm I get there at 3:45 and we didn't even get into the "little waiting room" until after 4:30 pm. I have my BP taken etc and this lady who I am not sure I've seen before but who is probably the nurse comes in and asks about my symptoms. She gets up while I'm still talking and starts heading for the door. She's not listening to me, anyway. I HATE HATE HATE when people do that. I'm talking to you, answering your questions and you're getting up and leaving!
So a bit later my doc comes in and Nurse Lady comes in and starts telling him that I don't have any real significant chest pain or shortness of breath etc. and I am trying to get a word in edgeiwse and wish she'd leave which she soon does.
I tell my doc about the weird shortness of breath I get and he says it's from my blood pressure meds. I explain in more detail about how weird it feels and how it comes and goes and about my tickle in my lungs and cough etc. and he says he used to be an allergist and it's asthma and I need an inhaler. I tell him about my random pain and chest pain and again about my breathing which is freaking me out and he is saying, "Your heart is healthy" and how I won't have any problems with it for 30 or 40 years and he is pretty much (i feel) blowing me off and walking out the door. He wants me on Crestor which I'm now taking. He doesn't seem concerned about my breathing weirdness, just that it's asthma (which it could be I guess, I had asthma from childhood up to my early 20's but I honestly don't remember just feeling mildly short of breath without wheezing.) My lungs sound clear but are not since I'm coughing.
So yeah here I am sitting here and feeling that shortness of breath out of nowhere. I feel pretty "relaxed" (as much as I can be I guess?) and I just start feeling it, just mildly like I should start panting or something a little. It's so mild it's freaking me out. Then after a few mins it goes away. No other symptoms, just that.
I kept telling myself to BELIEVE my doctor yesterday when I got home. It's been hard. Now the tickle in my lungs has come back some and I woke up hurting with a migraine anyway.
I'm just kinda sad. I don't trust my doc enough to just put this behind me and say ok it's asthma, it's whatever he says it is but it is NOT my heart. He says it's not so it's not. He's the cardio guy with over 20 or 30 years experience, not me.
I just got Sarno's books from the library so I'll go read them but I am not sure if he covers stuff like shortness of breath and that sorta stuff. I almost feel like a weirdo because most TMS people talk about pain (which I have enough of) and not as much about these other wack symptoms. A few people here talked about shortness of breath etc. but I haven't seen them post recently. I feel alone in this. |
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susan828
USA
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Posted - 03/06/2010 : 09:30:25
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Jerica, I wonder if you have had a stress test on a treadmill. Most cardiologists will do that; I had one. Maybe that would give you more peace of mind. I also hate to be brushed off by anyone in a medical office. One time only in my life, I was billed and didn't pay it. the doctor actually told me to see a psychiatrist in front of a waiting room full of people. I looked him up on vitals.com and every single rating said he yelled at patients and was a total lunatic. I would recommend checking patient ratings on any doctor we see...they can be rigged of course by friends and family but I still go somewhat by them and opinions of my doctor friends.
I am sure you know that shortness of breath can happen when we're anxious and focusing and regulating our breathing, instead of letting it take care of itself. It has certainly happened to me, especially as a child. |
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skizzik
USA
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Posted - 03/06/2010 : 10:07:08
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Originally posted by jerica
She gets up while I'm still talking and starts heading for the door. She's not listening to me, anyway. I HATE HATE HATE when people do that. I'm talking to you, answering your questions and you're getting up and leaving!
ironically you should be loving this. She's heard it a thousand times, she knows whats she's looking for, you don't have it, thats the attitude you want from her!
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Originally posted by jerica
So a bit later my doc comes in and Nurse Lady comes in and starts telling him that I don't have any real significant chest pain or shortness of breath etc.
again, be happy, no red flags and you're a complete waste of their time. Thats what you want! You should be going to the docs hoping youre a complete waste of their time.
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Originally posted by jerica
and I am trying to get a word in edgeiwse and wish she'd leave which she soon does.
why, whats the rush for her to leave, she's trying to explain in medical jargon that it's one of those anxiety cases and theres no sign of anything real, and good luck with this one. A word in edgewise? Like what? what could you really add, but, but, but,?
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Originally posted by jerica
I tell my doc about the weird shortness of breath I get
I had that when I was suffering from the anxiety, I recall always telling my wife "it's like I can't get a deep breath", and I had asthma when I was younger, so I know the difference. And I play a doctor on the forum .
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Originally posted by jerica
I kept telling myself to BELIEVE my doctor
Believe what? Is he lying to you? You either have red flags or not. If you do, you get sent for more testing. If you don't, they walk out of the room while your'e still talking. You got the latter, the GOOD one!
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Originally posted by jerica
He's the cardio guy with over 20 or 30 years experience, not me.
thats all you should be thinking! and then forget about it and let it go! Did'nt you read the secret yet? 
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Originally posted by jerica
I just got Sarno's books from the library so I'll go read them
Just don't go crazy looking for the perfect quote from him that will identify your exact symptoms, you'll never find it, YOUR symptoms will always be a little different, a little more real then others, read a passage here, a chapter there, but get up, go get a nice coffee (probably decaff for now ),and go to the mall and buy your self something nice. While your'e there, smile at every symptom you have and decide that you have plenty of time to be home and wallow in symptoms, but for now you're just out. And if you have a heart attack in front of everyone then so be it, theres nothing more than you can do as a human then go to the doctor, that you did, many many many times, so let go.
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Originally posted by jerica
I almost feel like a weirdo
If you're a weirdo, then we all are, I mean, we discuss psychosomatic symptoms on a forum
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Originally posted by jerica
I feel alone in this.
Your'e not
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jerica
USA
94 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2010 : 11:42:01
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Originally posted by susan828
Jerica, I wonder if you have had a stress test on a treadmill. Most cardiologists will do that; I had one. Maybe that would give you more peace of mind. I also hate to be brushed off by anyone in a medical office. One time only in my life, I was billed and didn't pay it. the doctor actually told me to see a psychiatrist in front of a waiting room full of people. I looked him up on vitals.com and every single rating said he yelled at patients and was a total lunatic. I would recommend checking patient ratings on any doctor we see...they can be rigged of course by friends and family but I still go somewhat by them and opinions of my doctor friends.
I am sure you know that shortness of breath can happen when we're anxious and focusing and regulating our breathing, instead of letting it take care of itself. It has certainly happened to me, especially as a child.
I had a stress test on a treadmill (not the nuclear one -- doc keeps saying I don't need it) on October. Have had oodles of tests, and a Holter about a month ago plus an EKG the week after that and another EKG last week. Check my profile on the Wiki as "jerica_tms" for a full listing of all the testing I have had. All that's left is a nuclear stress test and a heart cath but I can't afford em and he tells me I don't need them.
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jerica
USA
94 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2010 : 11:46:44
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I had that when I was suffering from the anxiety, I recall always telling my wife "it's like I can't get a deep breath", and I had asthma when I was younger, so I know the difference. And I play a doctor on the forum.
I have had that sensation, too. I have had the feels like there's cotton in my lungs or the air won't go all the way in or the lungs are being squished so nothing will go in or the can't exhale fully.
This time it feels like I can't quite catch my breath, like I want to pant a little bit like after you go up stairs only not exactly. It isn't really strong but it's uncomfortable and freaky.
I also tend to hyperventilate. I took a few breaths today and nearly passed out. I breathe too quickly as well, all the time, subconsciously. He even mentioned how when he listened to my heart and I took a few deep breaths I was blacking out practically and he said it's hyperventilation syndrome. He keeps changing his mind. Is it that? Is it allergies? is it asthma?
I just get it out of the blue, doing whatever. Lasts a little bit and it's gone. I used to get that when I got up and I'd walk across the room and be winded. I got so many tests and that was in early 2007 and again in 2008 and they never found anything wrong. Been tested so many times. |
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jerica
USA
94 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2010 : 11:55:24
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Originally posted by susan828
Jerica, I wonder if you have had a stress test on a treadmill.
Mentioning more testing also makes me freak out and want to cry. I am afraid to get the heart cath because you can die and I'm afraid to get the nuclear stress test because of more radiation and I've had no much already. I feel like you think my breathing stuff is from my HEART. I have been obsessed with heart stuff since I was 22 or 23 or so. It's been so long and I'm exhausted now and the symptoms just seem to get worse or new ones come and and I go see my cardio guy over and over and he just keeps saying my heart is healthy but I wonder how I can feel out of breath out of nowhere just sitting there if it's not my heart. |
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scd1833
USA
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Posted - 03/06/2010 : 12:56:50
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it sounds as if TMS is running rampant through your mind/body, worrying only makes it worse!
time to get with the program, and tell the MD's to get lost.
just MHO. |
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catspine
USA
239 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2010 : 13:12:06
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Jerica
If you're obsessed and it leads to your misery don't you think it is the fact that you get obsessed that needs to be taken care of instead of the object of your obsession? |
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jerica
USA
94 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2010 : 15:30:06
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| It's the leap of faith that Pan mentioned that we have to take that I'm having trouble with. I feel a symptom and everything I have learned all goes out the window and seems preposterous. Then the symptom passes and I have the residue of fear and as that fear lessens, the idea that it's my mind doing it becomes possible again. Then the symptom happens and I'm convinced all over again that nothing that FEELS THAT BAD could be coming from my mind and on and on and on and on. |
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Hilary
United Kingdom
191 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2010 : 16:15:42
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Jerica,
ALL you are doing is focusing on your symptoms. You are a long way from doing the TMS work. You are going round and round with the same stuff and although people on this forum are pretty patient, it's getting you nowhere.
skizzik wrote you a thoughtful reply detailing bit by bit the fact that the response you got from the doctors was actually a very positive one for you. Out of that entire reply, the only part you decided to focus on was the bit about a symptom he'd had that's similar to something you've had!! It's as if you didn't even see the rest of it!
Re-read his response to you. The doctors know you are not ill!
My heartfelt plea and challenge to you is that you STOP WRITING TO US ABOUT YOUR SYMPTOMS. Instead, write a post about what you're really really angry about. Maybe you'll want to start with this post, or the fact that you feel that you're not getting the help you want from this forum. Do that without mentioning a single symptom - just write about what's pissing you off. THAT is where the TMS work starts. Stop waiting to take a leap of faith. Just do the work! |
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