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2scoops
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 Posted - 05/21/2008 : 12:09:50
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Hillybilly,
another thing I wanted to point out was the author keeps pointing out, tired mind, bro I love that saying. Our mind can do so much and we really do get physical pain from a tired mind. he mind is supposed to be at peace. Our bodies were meant to do physical things, lift, run, move, bend, etc. But our bodies were not meant to handle stress, worry, anxiety and fear.
I was talking to a freind the other day about TMS, and he said, " What does that stand for Too Much Stress", and I thought to myself, yeah, it really does.
This book is a gem.
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Capn Spanky
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Posted - 05/21/2008 : 13:04:50
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Originally posted by 2scoops
We can actually keep our pain levels high worrying about what is causing the pain, looking for that magiacl emotion, looking for that excat repressed emotion. Which can have a negative effect, because now were worried we may not find it, that it is so buried. The point is any kind of stress, tension, and worry can make the pain constant, even if we know it's TMS, we can still worry about finding that "repressed emotion" and the pain continues. That is one thing that has always put a barrier into my recovery. I was so worried about finding that repressed emotion, because I kept saying t myslef, how can I find it, if it is repressed? Which in effect only caused me more tension, which added to my fear, worry and stress. It's time to let go, and let the body be at peace so it can heal. JMHO
Wow 2scoops, that really hit home with me! After reading some on Paul David's website, I'm going to order the book. |
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armchairlinguist
USA
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Posted - 05/21/2008 : 16:08:31
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I was so worried about finding that repressed emotion, because I kept saying t myslef, how can I find it, if it is repressed?
This behavior is a (common) misconception of TMS theory, replacing physical obsession with psychological obsession. I addressed this a while in my post on journaling. I think it tends to happen because of the TMS personality just latching on to something new to worry about.
However, Sarno explicitly states that "finding" particular repressed emotions is not necessary for recovery and should not be the focus. Journaling helps to make us aware that we have past pressures and traumas that are contributors to the rage reservoir, but it isn't supposed to itself become obsessive, just raise awareness. A 30-60 min per day time limit on TMS treatment, and not letting it take over your thought processes, is mentioned in The Mindbody Prescription.
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It's not 100% belief that's required, but 100% commitment. |
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2scoops
USA
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Posted - 05/21/2008 : 17:06:49
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Capn Spanky, it will probably be about $30 dollars cause it's shipped from the UK? I believe, so you gotta pay the exchange rate, plus the shipping charges. The book is very small, so if you do get it, you might think what the heck, I'm going to punch Scoops in the face. All I know is HillyBilly was wise in recomending this book. If you don't like the book, blame it on Hillybilly. :).
I hope you enjoy it, and I believe it is an approprite read for TMS.
Armchair, spot on!! You always have good insights.
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Hillbilly
USA
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Posted - 05/21/2008 : 18:02:59
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Scoops,
Glad you liked the book. The straightforward insights into his own illness and struggle to get out remind me exactly of those who have posted here for long periods without any sign of relief (I was among those at one time). I hope anyone out there who is struggling to find the repressed emotions and getting nowhere will pick up this book (or Claire Weekes) and read without paying any attention to the fact that the guy didn't have trigger point pain and suffering, but he still suffered mightily, draw conclusions that they can do it too (they really can accept the fact that they feel bad but will feel better when they stop caring so much about how bad they feel).
BTW, I got an ebook off Clickbank to save shipping and read it on my computer. For those who can't sit too long, the bound book will have to do. But his story is a great illustration of how to conquer nervous symptoms by just not caring so much about how you feel and giving your body time to heal. Impatience is our worst enemy when dealing with a nervous disorder. He put Claire Weekes' book to use in his life. He didn't just read it and get well. He had to put up with months and months of continued suffering until he got better.
The one word that will cure you and that has cured countless thousands: ACCEPT. |
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2scoops
USA
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Posted - 05/21/2008 : 18:34:28
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Hillbilly
USA
385 Posts |
Posted - 05/22/2008 : 08:13:00
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| Hope and Help for Your Nerves. Peace |
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Capn Spanky
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Posted - 05/22/2008 : 09:47:55
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Originally posted by 2scoops
Capn Spanky, it will probably be about $30 dollars cause it's shipped from the UK? I believe, so you gotta pay the exchange rate, plus the shipping charges. The book is very small, so if you do get it, you might think what the heck, I'm going to punch Scoops in the face. All I know is HillyBilly was wise in recomending this book. If you don't like the book, blame it on Hillybilly. :).
I hope you enjoy it, and I believe it is an approprite read for TMS.
No problem, 2scoops. Small is good! I found some peace of mind just reading stuff on his website, so I feel like the book will be helpful. |
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Capn Spanky
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Posted - 05/22/2008 : 10:02:04
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I was so worried about finding that repressed emotion, because I kept saying t myslef, how can I find it, if it is repressed?
This behavior is a (common) misconception of TMS theory, replacing physical obsession with psychological obsession. I addressed this a while in my post on journaling. I think it tends to happen because of the TMS personality just latching on to something new to worry about.
However, Sarno explicitly states that "finding" particular repressed emotions is not necessary for recovery and should not be the focus. Journaling helps to make us aware that we have past pressures and traumas that are contributors to the rage reservoir, but it isn't supposed to itself become obsessive, just raise awareness. A 30-60 min per day time limit on TMS treatment, and not letting it take over your thought processes, is mentioned in The Mindbody Prescription.
Thanks for the perspective and clarification, acl! This is a point of great confusion. I have the audio book of TMD. (as well as two of Dr. Sarno's books). When I listen to the portion written by the psychotherapists, I get the distinct impression that those who are still having pain, have not uncovered the "source of their rage". Even Dr. Sarno gives this impression when he says "you have to dig deeper" (I'm paraphrasing here). I think this needs to be further clarified. |
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richedie
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Posted - 05/23/2008 : 10:16:43
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Another great one is Anxiety, Phobias, and Panick Attacks. Anyone read this one?
I started having tingling and pain in my feet, I thought I had MS, was convinced! Then a cascade of symptoms began from shortness of breath to twitching, to tremors, temperature drops, intollerance of cold, pain in my wrist which eventually started turning blue, etc. |
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Good new book for anxiety
