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la_kevin
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 Posted - 01/26/2008 : 14:20:15
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mcone
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Posted - 01/26/2008 : 15:06:09
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I experience this dynamic as well...to the extent that physical symptoms recede, anxiety (extreme un-ease without identiable cause) seems to heighten.
The conventional answer, of course, is that (unidentified or unresolved) stressors are still operating on your nervous system. I think this may still apply to me. Also, I've recently begun to entertain the notion that emotional well-being isn't merely about the absence of disease or acute stressors, but that it really requires the active presence of health. (i.e., consistent, daily (mental) input of positive experiences, people, activity, etc. to cultivate good mental health)
It's also possible that complementary physiological changes in the brain (i.e., neural re-wiring, chemistry modification, structural changes, etc.) haven't quite caught up yet to the healthier, conscious mental program that you are running. Personally, I believe that the brain is capable of enormous nueroplasticity (both positive and negative) but that it takes time and continued effort to get the brain in good health - especially after a prolonged period of dysfunction. It helps to remeber that "feelings are not facts" - easier said than done sometimes, but it's true.
Also, I have experienced positive benefits from improved diet and dietary supplements - I think these measures support healthy brain chemistry and function. I will soon be trying Ashwagandah, an herbal supplement that is specifically used to combat anxiety and help "normalize" the nervous system.
[One further thought is that this really is a very good sign. The path into TMS for so many of us, involves a precipitating period of stress or anxiety before the onset of physical symptoms. Getting out of the physical and back to the anxiety that preceded the TMS represents a reversal of the process]
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electraglideman
USA
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Posted - 01/26/2008 : 15:21:57
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On a scale of 1 to 10 I would rate my sciatic pain between 1 and 2. Four months ago I would say it was between 8 and 9. I can't say I've had anxiety attacks but I do seem to blow things out of proportion. I catch myself getting really mad at things that are not that big of a deal.
Anyways I've ordered Scott Brady's PAIN FREE FOR LIFE. I'm going to read that before I do any more jouraling. |
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electraglideman
USA
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Posted - 01/26/2008 : 15:25:49
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| By the way la_kevin, congrats on your pain reduction. Enjoy! |
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scottjmurray
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Posted - 01/26/2008 : 17:38:36
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It's morphing. Ignore it.
Spend a little bit of time every day doing some emotional processing and leave it at that. Spend the rest of the day completely ignoring whatever ridiculous symptoms it creates.
Author of tms-recovery.com
A collection of articles on emotions, lifestyle changes, and TMS theory. |
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mk6283
USA
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Posted - 01/26/2008 : 19:53:08
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I've experienced exactly the same symptom transitions as you've described. Its on the run! Congratulations! The anxiety and associated fasciculations/myoclonus are simply a new means of distraction from unconscious emotional pain. Recognize it for what it truly is, do your best to try and uncover the source of the rage, and move on as your symptoms subside. If you recall from the MBP, this type of transition is precisely how Dr. Sarno came to realize that anxiety can actually be an equivalent of TMS and not just an underlying cause of it. You're almost there. Good luck!
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austini
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Posted - 01/26/2008 : 23:12:34
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Hi,
I know the symptoms very well. It sounds very much like anxiety and panic. Nip it in the bud before it turns into full blown panic disorder. Perhaps your previous battles with pain, constant introspection. obsession and fear etc have exhausted your central nervous system so that now it suffering from over-sensitization.
Meditation is absolutely critical in reducing your anxiety levels. Just something as simple as focusing on your breath for 2 twenty minutes sessions a day. As hard as it might seem you have to learn to let go and "float" (as la Claire Weekes) through the horrible symptoms when they arise. Never try to fight the symptoms. And don't let it lead to avoidance of your normal activities no matter how bad you feel. Get out and about as much as you can to get your mind off yourself. If the symptoms arise, breathe and move more slowly whilst thinking of "floating" forward.
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pericakralj
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Posted - 01/27/2008 : 05:24:53
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| La kevin i had similar expiriences.Mostly gone now.My theraphist helped me a lot,so i think you should go to therapist again. |
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armchairlinguist
USA
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Posted - 01/27/2008 : 16:06:43
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After my pain went away I had a lot of problems with anxiety and depression. My anxiety tended to be the middle-of-the-night-brain-won't-turn-off type, and I would feel kind of sick to my stomach and jittery. My strategy ended up being to go into what I thought the anxiety was trying to block access to. If I couldn't think of anything current, I would think of a known past situation which would help me work up an emotion like anger or fear (strangely enough, anxiety can be a cover for fear). This worked a lot like it does for pain for me, and eventually my brain got convinced it couldn't fool me that way and the attacks largely subsided. I don't know if this will be helpful for you, but it does sound like you are experiencing a similar transition from pain to anxiety, so it might.
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It's not 100% belief that's required, but 100% commitment. |
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Susie
USA
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Posted - 01/27/2008 : 19:21:28
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| Hi Kevin, I read your post and can assure you that your symptoms are very common. I've sure suffered them along with numerous others. You name them and I've probably had them. I guess I happen to have a very creative brain. What you have to understand is that tms is never over! Never. It is not like a cold that ends in about a week and then you never get that virus again. It's not a disease. Your brain is capable of creating alot of different symptoms, possibly for the rest of your life. What you now have is the awareness of what is actually happening. From pain to dizziness to colitis to sinus to anxiety to hives to migranes etc. it's all the same. I'm the lucky recipient of all these and then some. They are all harmless. Miserable but harmless. I now only get tinges of them and not very often. They are no longer able to induce fear, only an awareness that something must be bothering me. I think of them kinda like a doorbell. They are actually almost a gift. Once you are able to think of tms in these terms, you will be in control. Fear is your biggest enemy. Fear will empower your symptoms, laughing at them will empower you. Honestly, it's really pretty easy once you get the hang of it. |
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painintheneck
USA
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Posted - 01/30/2008 : 10:18:55
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Kevin I am right there with you going through the same stuff! Panic attacks, shaking, trouble sleeping but the neck pain yeah it's not so bad now.  |
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la_kevin
USA
351 Posts |
Posted - 01/30/2008 : 14:29:01
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It's ridiculous man. I have no anxiety today, slept better than I have in weeks, and OH YEAH, the pain is back in my legs today. YAY FOR US!
We rock. This is so cool feeling like there is a demon in my body that is toying with me. Isn't it fun? Doesn't it just make you wanna hug everyone? |
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sborthwick
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Posted - 01/31/2008 : 12:31:12
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This is such a helpful thread for me. I have been experiencing anxiety ever since my back pain went away. I am on an extremely low dose of anti-anxiety meds and actually want to get off them but I am fearful of experiencing the anxiety. I guess this equivalent is workign really well for my brain.
I went for a time to one of Sarno's psychologists - the problem is that she is really hard to get to and is extremely expensive. I absolutely hated the experience and basically walked around hating my entire family. It was a very negative experience and I started to experience the desire to drink again - not good for me.
I am thinking of taking the approach - to focus less on my symptoms and to just come off the meds and keep switching to think about anything that makes me angry from childhood. My brain still hasn't got it.
Also, I am in a far less stressful situation and I really think that helps alot. I have changed jobs and boyfriends and things are going very well! He is very very supportive. |
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Wavy Soul
USA
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Posted - 02/01/2008 : 01:49:21
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What I notice is that not only do symptoms circle the airport waiting for their next landing as soon as another symptom takes off, but also they are on a continuum with every minor addiction in my life.
(I consider my symptom tendency my main addiction). When I start to feel a bit free from it, by relaxing, journaling a bit, perhaps reading Sarno, I then find that by the time I'm ready for bed, I have a bizarre anxiety. I coulda been tired and even sleeping on the living room couch, but when I go to bed, I feel buzzed, like my parents want me to go to sleep and I don't want to, even though I'm reeling with tiredness/
This can lead to not enough sleep, which can lead to a bit more caffeine which tends to get me into a particular biochemical wave that leads to desire for sweet carbs late at night.
Honestly, if I were into online porn or booze or shooting myself up with something as a lifestyle, I could see then seamlessly warping my unconscious gremlins in a World Tour of symptoms, anxiety, depression, substance abuse, eating emotionally, and on and on ...
I've been listening to guided psychic readings from Asandra (go to her website). She is an accurate, high-level, full trance medium (i.e. brings in your guides from higher dimensions, not your dead relatives or pets).U can get extraordinary guidance on this stuff.
A guide through her told me it was time to fire my body in its job of taking on my emotional issues. That was my first TMS healing, before I read Sarnp/
Sarno has got it right in many ways.
xx
A guide through her first turned me on to the whole realization about using the body for the emotions' job and I was symptom free for months. Then dad died and I read Sarno and it went deeper.
Love is the answer, whatever the question |
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