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JohnD
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 Posted - 09/15/2007 : 13:45:42
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Dave,
It may be a lofty goal for someone who just read Sarno's book last month or last year, but its all relative. I read Sarno's book in January 2003, and have worked through pretty much all my symptoms with one more symptom left that shows up maybe 3-4 times per year for a day or 2. I want to get rid of it because once I develop myself enough to get rid of that symptom I will be even happier and healthier than I am now, I will have evolved in a way. I don't think its too lofty to want that for myself. But then again if I was only using Sarno's techniques then it would be too lofty of a goal, because I have used a mish mash of many different things to get to where I am now.
"even Dr. Sarno gets symptoms ..."
I know a person who is very healthy and has no symptoms of any kind. I would rather be like him than Sarno.
My point about advice giving was that you really can't give good advice to someone about their toughest symptom if you haven't beaten your own. Its just how it works. You can't lead someone where you haven't already been yourself. So my point was to understand that you can't take someone further than you've been yourself and be a little more humble with advice giving because you never know if someone is dealing with their toughest symptom.....
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armchairlinguist
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Posted - 09/15/2007 : 14:51:03
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There's no reason why you can't take someone further than you've been yourself. Maybe what you did to treat your symptoms was quite different than what they did to begin with. Now, they're working on harder symptoms but it turns out that what you did first is helpful for them now.
Example: Someone reads Sarno's book and is cured after just learning the theory and not fearing pain anymore. They get a recurrence a year later and try to beat it the same way, but it doesn't work, and they come here for advice. I tell them: maybe you should make a pressures list and do journaling, because that's the main thing I did to get rid of my symptoms to begin with. That works for them and they don't have any symptoms going forward. But I had to do more than that and I still get symptoms occasionally, though mild and quick to pass away. So they got further than me, and I helped them do it.
Different goals are appropriate for each of us, but there's no reason why we can't all help each other despite being at different stages/levels.
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Dave
USA
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Posted - 09/16/2007 : 08:24:07
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This is not an 'advice' forum. My posts should never be inerpreted as advice. I am not trying to 'lead' anyone anywhere.
My posts reflect my own personal opinion and for the most part are based on the writings of Dr. Sarno. Again I do not consider myself an expert or authority on the subject. I am simply the moderator of this forum. |
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JohnD
USA
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Posted - 09/16/2007 : 09:58:08
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You can rationalize what we do here all day long and say its personal opinion, this or that....but the bottom line is that people come here looking for advice and other people give it. It is not a diagnosis or an official medical evaluation but it is a form of guidance. This is what happens here on this forum, whether you acknowledge it or not. It looks like you will continue to not acknowledge it though. If you did acknowledge it you might just hold yourself a little more accountable and do what it takes to get past that last symptom that you are still using meds for.
ACL- agreed, we can all "help" each other if we are open to recieving it.....I think we are talking about 2 different things.
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Dave
USA
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Posted - 09/17/2007 : 08:32:25
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This is a public forum. The topic is TMS. It is not a medical site. It is not an advice site. I generally let the forum go where its users lead it. When I do contribute I offer my own opinions and knowledge that is firmly rooted in Dr. Sarno's theory. If this helps people, then great.
I have come a long way since learning about Dr. Sarno. My life is no longer dominated by fear, pain meds, and trips to the chiropractor. If you feel that you must be completely free of all psychogenic symptoms permanently, feel free to keep trying to achieve that goal. If that's what you need to do to label yourself 'cured' then so be it. I am thankful that Dr. Sarno gave me the ammunition to get to where I am now, and I am not going to belittle that progress simply because I still get heartburn from time to time and choose to take a Pepcid.
My own personal experience has nothing to do with the fact that I happen to be the moderator of this forum. I don't have to be 'accountable' for anything. |
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