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Singer_Artist
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 Posted - 07/31/2007 : 15:43:03
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On a positive note for the tms board..my chiropractor friend tested me w/ kinesiology and said 'it's TMS..'
He said i have to 'forgive myself for my stubbornness in not forgiving myself..and forgive God for allowing pain..' |
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art
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Posted - 07/31/2007 : 16:05:59
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TMS and the route to recovering from it has always appealed to me because it's simple. As my nearest and dearest would be quick to tell you, I'm far from the sharpest knife in the drawer..
Just find the courage and move forward. I think taking steroids, which are toxic with sometimes terrible side effects, is the very last thing you want to be doing.
Why take poison when you can recover by taking nothing?
Try to look at your situation objectively. In fact, go back and look at evry single post you've put up about this pain, and that pain, and the other pain. It's not humanly possible to have so many things go wrong in an essentially healthy body...
You have the key to the promised land. We've shown you where to put that key, and how to turn it. The rest is up to you..
(OK, so the key metaphor's a little ungainly..It's still apt, I promise you..) |
Edited by - art on 07/31/2007 16:08:39 |
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Singer_Artist
USA
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Posted - 07/31/2007 : 16:53:45
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Thanx Art..:)
I made an appt. to see the kinesiologist/chiro in person who already said it was TMS over the phone..Maybe it will help me think more psychologically and push more thru the fear..He doesn't do regular manipulations or regular chiro..it's all mindbody stuff..very parallel to Dr. S. |
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Singer_Artist
USA
1516 Posts |
Posted - 07/31/2007 : 16:57:08
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| Just have to say that although i haven't met any of you in person, w/ the exception of tt at a seminar about TMS years ago..i love each and every one of you for your caring hearts and world of wisdom..When i am a rich and famous artist..would like to give you all a painting in gratitude! Still in hell..but it sure helps knowing you guys care and believe in me.. |
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Singer_Artist
USA
1516 Posts |
Posted - 07/31/2007 : 17:22:41
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| Is it just conditioning that makes the pain increase exponentially after i type just a little? typing/painting etc..never caused pain for me b4..not til after this 18 second weird stretch thing i did..And..Sensei why do you never write to me, just curious? I like what you say to others but for some reason you never write me.. |
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armchairlinguist
USA
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Posted - 07/31/2007 : 18:47:08
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Originally posted by Singer_Artist
Is it just conditioning that makes the pain increase exponentially after i type just a little? ..And..Sensei why do you never write to me, just curious? I like what you say to others but for some reason you never write me..
In answer to the first thing, yes.
In answer to the second thing, take that feeling and go explore it with dictation/writing...
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Wherever you go, there you are. |
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h2oskier25
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Posted - 07/31/2007 : 19:31:56
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Originally posted by Singer_Artist
On a positive note for the tms board..my chiropractor friend tested me w/ kinesiology and said 'it's TMS..'
He said i have to 'forgive myself for my stubbornness in not forgiving myself..and forgive God for allowing pain..'
OK . . . NOW we are getting somewhere. There you go. You have found somebody to tell you its TMS. GREAT. That's what it took for me.
Art, you can't suggest she goes back and reads all of her posts when her wrists are flaring up. Really. Now is not the time.
Don't cancel any more of your commitments, Karen. Realize that you are under a lot of stress right now.
I would wish your next post (or topic heading) be about all the financial stress and performance anxiety you feel right now, which is TOTALLY normal. Remember, we're here for you even if you are NOT in pain. I think I speak for everybody when I say we would love it if you sought our support before you got in tremendous pain.
Now go lock the bathroom door, tell bro to go for a short walk, and scream at your unc to send oxygen to your painful areas. Then go calm the pooches.
Good idea about the dictation thing.
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Singer_Artist
USA
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Posted - 07/31/2007 : 21:32:56
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ACL,
Good idea about exploring my feelings regarding Sensei not writing to me..I need to get a tape recorder for dictation as I am having my adopted brother type this for me. You always give such excellent advice!
Beth,
As always your words are full of wisdom, thankyou...
Love the idea of screaming to my unconscious to send oxygen and blood to the hurting wrists, neck and knees.
Now I have multiple locations of pain, probably because some deeper emotional issues are looming just beneath the surface.
I am worried about my finances because of losing this part-time job today, but more importantly, because I don't get paid for the commissioned painting until it's done, and I barely had a chance to start it when this sudden wrist flare up began.
Yes, fear of failure is on my mind as well as the fear that I won't paint again. (As over dramatic as that sounds)
Just got off the phone with a fellow Christian brother and did some great prayers.. That alone has already lifted my spirits..
I have some sort of block to really, deeply express my rage.. I don't know what that is about..
Last night I cried hard over my physical pain and disability to my brother.. When I finally cry, it is so intense, that I begin to gag and lose my breath.. Perhaps that is why I don't cry that often.. Also, being raised like a tomboy makes me inclined to stuff my feelings.. And..Also being an entertainer and empath, I tend to spend most of my time trying to help others.
That is why it is so refreshing to get support on here from all you wonderful people..
Even as I speak I am wondering if I am being superficial in what I am sharing. What Dave said earlier about that really hit home.
Hugs and love to you both,
Karen
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art
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Posted - 08/01/2007 : 06:46:27
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Art, you can't suggest she goes back and reads all of her posts when her wrists are flaring up. Really. Now is not the time.
Well, to be honest I'm not sure why...When I was first struggling with major foot pain around here, I decided to take a good long look at my hypochondriacal ways...I listed evry ache and pain, both serious and not so serious, that I'd worried about and complained about in the past few years...The list was like a mile long...I suddenly realized, hey, wait a minute, this simply isn't possible...
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art
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Posted - 08/01/2007 : 06:54:28
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Art, you can't suggest she goes back and reads all of her posts when her wrists are flaring up. Really. Now is not the time.
Well, to be honest I'm not sure why...When I was first struggling with major foot pain around here, I decided to take a good long look at my hypochondriacal ways...I listed evry ache and pain, both serious and not so serious, that I'd worried about and complained about in the past few years...The list was like a mile long...I suddenly realized, hey, wait a minute, this simply isn't possible...
I think Karen's tough enough to handle that. Honestly do. |
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Singer_Artist
USA
1516 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2007 : 08:10:44
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| My list would probably be as long or longer then yours, Art..I will read them when i am out of acute pain though..:) |
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armchairlinguist
USA
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Posted - 08/01/2007 : 11:51:08
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I have some sort of block to really, deeply express my rage.. I don't know what that is about..
Last night I cried hard over my physical pain and disability to my brother.. When I finally cry, it is so intense, that I begin to gag and lose my breath.. Perhaps that is why I don't cry that often.. Also, being raised like a tomboy makes me inclined to stuff my feelings..
It's very hard to express the rage -- that's kind of why we get TMS in the first place. You can really see from this post that you are in the habit of suppressing/repressing your feelings. Being "raised as a tomboy" most likely meant that your sensitive feelings (which are obviously very strong) were discouraged from coming out in their true forms. This is not healthy; kids need to have their emotions acknowledged and validated as okay. This is a very strong sign that your issues are emotionally based and NOT phyiscally based, i.e., that you have TMS.
I think you've gotten into a bit of a cycle with crying. You don't do it often so it is really intense when you do, so it scares you into not doing it often. There is some intense pressure you need to release, lots of built-up crying. Let yourself go a little bit, trusting to yourself that you are big and strong enough you can handle it. It is not easy or enjoyable to get through the first storms of emotions that come up when you begin exploring, but you CAN do it. Go with whatever comes up and just tell yourself that your feelings are okay, and that you will be okay in the end.
I used to have those kind of intense crying episodes where it would be months since I had last cried and I would sob for a long time and end up really drained. These days I cry often, mostly not very much at a time. It just is a natural part of allowing feelings to come up as they come, and it feels okay. Sometimes I still have the intense episodes if something big comes up. What I've learned is that I will still be there, be me, be okay, when they pass, and I will know more about myself and my feelings.
You might want to check out the essay Growing Towards Wholeness Through Grief (http://www.creativegrowth.com/teresa.htm). I think you will relate a lot to her emotional journey.
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Singer_Artist
USA
1516 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2007 : 13:11:35
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Acl,
OMGoodness, that article is phenomenal! EXACTLY what i need to read..I am half way through and will read more later..still nursing the 'pain'..I so appreciate your sharing with me about your own inner journey as well! I am going to finish this article and ask a friend to type more about it later..God bless your caring soul!
~K |
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art
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Posted - 08/01/2007 : 13:55:45
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Originally posted by Singer_Artist
My list would probably be as long or longer then yours, Art..I will read them when i am out of acute pain though..:)
I actually didn't even mean to literally look at evry single post necessarily, though that would be good too...the important thing is to understand and appreciate the impossibility of all those things going wrong in one healthy body...
Sounds like you see that pretty well already... |
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h2oskier25
USA
395 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2007 : 14:56:04
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My list would probably be as long or longer then yours, Art..I will read them when i am out of acute pain though..:)
That's all I'm saying, Art. That she needs to be out of Acute pain before she does this.
Karen, I can feel you starting to pull out of this. Here's hoping you uncover lots of repressed stuff.
Regards,
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Singer_Artist
USA
1516 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2007 : 15:23:18
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Art and Beth,
Love you guys! :) |
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stanfr
USA
268 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2007 : 15:50:25
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| Karen, have you tried looking at your dreams? I mention this because i find it extremely difficult to be conscious of my repressed anger, but i've been trying hard to remember all my dreams recently, and the anger most definitely shows up there--albeit sometimes in very symbolic form. just a thought. |
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Singer_Artist
USA
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Posted - 08/01/2007 : 20:21:38
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That's a great idea, stanfr..I used to keep a dream journal years ago..Maybe i will put a tape recorder next to my bed, and also use it to record my deeper emotions I am repressing.
Hugs and God bless,
Karen
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carbar
USA
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Posted - 08/02/2007 : 10:31:08
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Hi Karen,
Sorry to read that you are struggling with this symptom.
As someone whose main TMS symptom was wrist pain, I know how much fear this can strike up.
I really agree with what other folks have to say, particularly about ACL and the list making.
Fear of "pain" or fear of feeling worst pain were excellent EXCUSES to avoid the real emotions underlying this TMS symptom. Since having the symptom is making you feel the real emotion of fear, it's kind of tricky to get under there sometimes, but it sounds like you are doing it!
Keep going! And keep doing what you have to do...look at how you have some strength to type. You HAVE to do the self-care things around the house and you CAN. Keep busy and the pain will fade to the background.
I will eat a hat and a fish, too. You can do this!
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Singer_Artist
USA
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Posted - 08/02/2007 : 12:25:58
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| Thanx Carbar..ur reply was very helpful..i had a friend do my typing last night..it is very painful to type or do any basic things..driving now brings on sharp pain..i am house bound now..depression has also set in and, yes, lots of fear..wish i never spoke to my Dr. friend in No. Carolina..he really scared me..i should have known better |
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wrist pain-carpal tunnel?
