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lidge
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 Posted - 11/13/2007 : 19:26:42
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TrueNorth-
I can imagine how maddening and frustrating this has been for you- but
you sound like you have the resolve to keep fighting. I know I need that extra help too- hoping for some relief for us all here! |
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electraglideman
USA
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Posted - 11/13/2007 : 20:35:10
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truenorth, I've never been to a therapist before but I would think you would have have to have confidence in him or her. Dubin may be your ticket to recovery.
Hang in there. |
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truenorth
USA
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Posted - 11/13/2007 : 20:55:57
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| Thanks everyone. I'll keep you posted. If I don't feel Don and I are on the same page after about six sessions, I'm moving on to the therapist Sarno recommended in Englewood, NJ. |
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stanfr
USA
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Posted - 11/14/2007 : 11:26:57
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Truenorth:
it sounds like your psyche is conditioned to the cycling--it basically lets you 'get away' with it. Try running, and while you run recite every possible source of anger and stress over and over to let your mind know that the pain cant distract you. It may also be (it was in my case) that there are sources of stress that are going to continue to cause problems unless you make some commitment to make some changes in your lifestyle--either what you do or how you do it. Anything to break routine. From what ive heard Dubin knows what he is doing and i'm sure he'll be of help. Good luck! |
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K2toK9
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Posted - 11/14/2007 : 15:10:35
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Golden Girl,
Thank You. I have more than 2 stresses on that list. Yes, I teach and therefore I stand, but I also thought of something I said to my cousin when I found out I had to have the total hyst done....I said, "I will do like my Mom and walk my way through the surgically induced menopause." WALK ? with my feet ?
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truenorth
USA
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Posted - 11/15/2007 : 10:29:47
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I had my first phone session with Don Dubin last night and came away very impressed. After spending nine months with a Sarno therapist in NYC who did not help me end the pain, Don (along with my insights gained from the previous therapy) was quickly able to identify the main issue that we both think is behind my pain (always feeling like I don't count, which generates a lot of day-to-day anger). He went on to sketch out for me what we might be able to do about it over the coming weeks.
I think I'm on my way.
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golden_girl
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/15/2007 : 17:22:02
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K2toK9 -
It's very interesting that you said that expression re the surgery. Many different authors have written about what we say and the effect it has on us physically - I have 'Your Body Believes Every Word You Say by Barbara Hoberman Levine' which draws many parallels between language, emotions and physical sensations ("I can't stand this/I can't bear it/I don't have the guts to do that/You're driving me mad/My heart is broken/Keep your mouth shut/Put your foot in it/I'm so uptight" etc etc). It's quite amazing the amount of everyday expressions we use (usually in a negative context) that are to do with parts of the body - the list is endless. Maybe we don't realise the importance and impact our words could have on us physically.
Did you manage to 'walk your way' through the surgery? Apart from your current pains? I mean, was everything fine in the respect of the hysterectomy and ovaries etc?
Also, have you heard of Louise Hay? She's a metaphysical author and in her book 'You Can Heal Your Life' she lists many physical symptoms and her opinion on the emotional causes for them. For 'feet' she writes:
'Represents our understanding - of ourselves, of life, of others.'
She also says (with reference to the elderly who have trouble walking) 'their understanding has been warped, and they often feel there is no place to go. Little children move on happy, dancing feet. Elderly people often shuffle as if they are reluctant to move.'
About legs, she writes 'Our legs carry us forward in life. Leg problems often indicate a fear of moving forward in a certain direction.' Lower leg problems suggest 'Fear of the future. Not wanting to move.'
Not sure if that's any help at all?!
I think (not that I'm any kind of expert!) but if you have many of the stresses on that list I posted, then according to Sarno, you would be a prime candidate for TMS. Perhaps the exact location of the pain is not fundamental, it could have come anywhere, even gastric/migraines/skin etc?
"F.E.A.R.
Forgive Everyone And Remember
For Everything A Reason"
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K2toK9
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Posted - 11/23/2007 : 19:29:59
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Dear Truenorth and Goldengirl,
I am so interested in what you both have said. Truenorth, please, tell me more about Don Dubin. I am very interested.
Goldengirl, I think that is fascinating what you said about the feet and legs. As for my surgery.....I had stage III endometriosis. The Doctor could not understand why I had not been complaining of great pain, but for those two years, my Mom was dying of ovaian cancer and I was raising two children and there was no room (I guess) for my own pain. I also had a lot of anxiety attacks for years and when my Mom got sick, the anxiety attacks stopped. My Mom was my world. She was the best. I knew I had to be there for her just like she had always been there for me. I got through my own surgery fairly well. It was tough though and I was afraid....very afraid. My kids were fearful too and they would look at me like they were waiting for me to implode or explode or something. My oldest (now almost 18) told me recently that the day I went in for surgery, she thought she would never she me again....that I too would have ovarian cancer and die. I think my Dad was thinking the same thing. Oddly enough, I never hear from my Dad anymore and he was so good to me throughout my recouperation. I feel like I have lost him as well.
Anyway, yesterday was Thanksgiving and it was a miserable day. My neuropathy is so flared up that I could barely walk today and I am so afraid that come Monday morning I will not be able to go to work.
K2toK9
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K2toK9
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Posted - 11/26/2007 : 09:19:17
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Truenorth and Goldengirl,
Please read the posting that I wrote for the two of you. Would love to hear from both of you.
Thanks,
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truenorth
USA
83 Posts |
Posted - 11/26/2007 : 11:42:56
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K2toKR,
I expressed how I felt in an earlier post about Don Dubin. |
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K2toK9
29 Posts |
Posted - 11/27/2007 : 10:55:08
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Truenorth,
I apologize for not having seen your previous posting on Don Dubin. To fill you in quickly, I was without computer service for awhile and then before that I was off the forum for a bit because a relative thought it was "amusing" to find me on this forum and read and print my postings.....anyway, I also work 6 days per week and one night, have kids, a house, a husband who works a lot of hours and this nearly constant burning foot neuropathy. How did you find Don Dubin ? I have tried a Sarno Doctor and it did not work for me either. No one seems to know how to help. My Family Physician now believes that something did happen during my surgery to cause this nerve pain. I was directed to a speicialist in Neuromuscular diseases next month......any help is appreciated.
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truenorth
USA
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Posted - 11/27/2007 : 13:22:16
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Hi K2toK9,
I got Don's name from people on this site. I can't say enough good things about him. He's taken me further in two sessions than the other therapist (a NYC based Sarno therapist) did in 9 months. My latest session focused on my need to feel my emotions, really FEEL them, as opposed to feeling an intellectual response.
He's raised his rate to $150/session, still inexpensive compared to the metro NY area.
A word of advice to anyone seeking a therapist. Trust your gut and bail after, say six sessions, if you feel the therapist is not helping. I made that mistake with the Sarno person. I should have left after 3-4 months. |
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K2toK9
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Posted - 11/27/2007 : 16:43:10
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Truenorth,
Thank you so much for the information and your insight. I greatly appreciate it.
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Foot pain
