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Special One

USA
61 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2006 :  19:27:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My issue has been with my neck and head for the past few weeks. The nerve type pain went fron the base of the skull on one side over to the forehead making it feel like there was a tickle there all the time...very annoying. It was constant for a week. Now it completely goes away around noon each day and reappears in the wee hours of the morning. I'm so grateful when it is gone. It just melts away in minutes. It's weird that it keeps coming back each morning like clockwork.
I figure that since there are log stretches with absolutely no pain and completely unrestricted neck motion, it can't be something serious. Is tms playing a game here? What can I do to end the cycle? Thanks for replies.

marytabby

USA
545 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2006 :  03:20:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's what I get when I'm stressed out a lot.
It's typical TMS for sure, at least for me it is.
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flyefisher

48 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2006 :  05:29:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If it's regular it could be something with his sleeping position. Then again, it could also be subconscious stress while sleeping. If he's had diagnostics done like MRI, X-ray etc. and they found nothing, then TMS is a likely culprit. Also try hitting the affected area with hot shower water. If the pain subsides with this, it's a good bet it is. Hot water increases blood flow to the affected region for a temporary time.
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drziggles

USA
292 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2006 :  07:55:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sounds like a problem called Occipital Neuralgia, which in my experience is often a TMS equivalent. I would try the usual stuff (the reminders, rereading the book, etc.).

There are some usual medical treatments that can be effective if that doesn't work, but i'm not going to tell you about that now. :)

naturally, you should consult with your doctor before making any decisions.
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h2oskier25

USA
395 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2006 :  08:58:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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. . it could be something with his sleeping position . .


I'm always reminded of Dr. Schecters words when I hear this kind of stuff. On his CD's He says something to the effect of "as human beings, we're quite skilled at the art of sleep, having practiced it for about one third of our lives. We're really quite good at it."

It's relaxing that's hard




Beth
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Special One

USA
61 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2006 :  17:22:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I saw the doctor today and she didn't think that any tests were necessary for the neck/head pain, that it was probably tense muscles causing inflammation and a pinched nerve. Her suggestions were cortizone injection by a neurologist, vicodin, or physical therapy. I personally don't think any of those options would work except maybe temporarily. If it is not something like a tumor or the like, I will just bear with it and consider it tms. I tried to cover my bases with this one and again, I am left with tms work as the only real solution. The hardest part is trying to be patient with my two children while the pain is intense in the early part of the day. When it goes away later on, I feel like a different person. My poor children!
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Bat Ears

USA
14 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2006 :  18:08:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Among many other TMS symptoms, I have had neck pains, shoulder and arm pains, that seemed to be related to sleeping position. No More! I have got my TMS "gremlin" backed into a corner (sciatica, and not too bad). I just decided to face reality, that Dr. Sarno is right: you can't hurt yourself lying in a nice bed. Remember, when you are asleep, your subconscious is in charge and the "gremlin" will take advantage of anything to which you may be vulnerable. Injections, drugs, PT? The doctor is taking shots in the dark in my opinion.
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Special One

USA
61 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2006 :  21:39:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have noticed that my dreams have been stressful lately. I have dreamt about divorce, lost children, etc. I wonder, if it is tms taking advantage of our unconcious at night, how so we then do the work? Are we defenseless at that time? Maybe I could talk to my brain about it during the day and remind it that I know that the pain is from night tms. I don't know how to deal with this one. But I'm willing to try anything, as long as it is not a fake coner-up of the symptoms.
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Bat Ears

USA
14 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2006 :  08:35:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think you do know how to deal with it. Talk to your brain, understand that it is the repressed emotional issues and not something physical causing pain, and don't let the bad dreams affect your life. When I have a bad dream, and wake up, I immediately give it my best shot at interpretation, smile at the results, and don't worry about it any more. I look at the bad dream as a confirmation that there are indeed some scary things hidden in my mind and that TMS is a behavior I have subconsciously learned to avoid actualizing them. When TMS exposes itself like this, you can consciously take advantage of it.
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armchairlinguist

USA
1397 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2006 :  10:49:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think it's actually good for us when our rage and pain are enacted in our dreams. For many of us it may be the only way we ever truly experience that rage and pain we have inside, because otherwise the conscious mind in charge will keep it locked away. When we dream, the unconscious mind is in charge and can communicate its feelings.

I dreamed last night that I had arranged for a murder, watched the murderer go insane, and, upon being accused of it, attacked my accuser physically. Before going to bed I had had a very intense cry about loss of my grandmother and not feeling loved as a child. I was able to access the pain, but not the rage. Then the rage came out in my dream. Very interesting. So, even though bad dreams can be disturbing and scary, I think they are healthy.

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Wherever you go, there you are.
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