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 Byron Katie open conference call - Oct 17th
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n/a

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Posted - 10/09/2005 :  12:51:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Byron Katie invites you to meet with her through a conference call on Monday, October 17th, at 10:00 A.M. Pacific time, and just hang out in the miraculous effects of The Work. The number to call is 646.519.5860, pin code 3140#.

Website: www.thework.org

I can testify that those suffering from TMS will benefit from her work.

Edited by - n/a on 10/12/2005 07:34:18

Hilary

United Kingdom
191 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2005 :  12:58:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'll second that. Thanks for this, Peter.
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altherunner

Canada
511 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2005 :  17:48:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just checked out 2 of her books from the library today and started reading. I like very much what I have read so far. I can relate to :
"it's not what person or thing is bothering you so much,a as your thoughts about it".
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n/a

560 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2005 :  11:16:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you can get the recording of "Loving What Is" it is much more powerful than the book. I had to listen to the entire book three times it was so riveting.
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Michele

249 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2005 :  11:53:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just finished her book and loved it, but still have alot of questions. It's going to take me some "work" to really put this in practice. I think I will look for the book on tape, since you recommended it so highly. Thank you!

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n/a

560 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2005 :  20:19:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
she does recommend you do "the work" on others before you do it on yourself.....Choose someone close to you...
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Kajsa

Denmark
144 Posts

Posted - 10/26/2005 :  04:10:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
She has reached Denmark as well. Her picture is all over the country..
I do not like her books at all.
I think she is one of this "gurus" that makes a lot of money from people who whants a "quick fix".
Of course some of the things she wrights about is correct - our thoughts can be our enemys etc. But the way she handle the woman
who has been sexual abused as a child is absurde!
I think that sometimes it is absolutley ok to be offended and pissed of - and stay with that.
Kajsa

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molomaf

119 Posts

Posted - 10/26/2005 :  08:40:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kajsa,
That was my interpretation of the work with the woman who was sexually abused as well. Why should she be angry at herself that she didn't tell her mother? I just didn't get that one. I could see forgiving the mother but taking the hit, I don't think so. I also think that I would never in a million years not be at least a little concerned when watching my daughter give birth and the baby not breathing. That she gave a little smile to her daughter seems a bit far fetched. Byron Katie does take it to the extreme.

However, I do believe that there are valuable lessons to be learned here. There is something to be said for learning about oneself and staying out of others "business". I think just because some of it is a little nutty, we don't need to throw it all away. Use what works for you. I have her newer book on hold at my library.
Michele
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Kajsa

Denmark
144 Posts

Posted - 10/26/2005 :  11:07:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[quote]Originally posted by molomaf
"I think just because some of it is a little nutty, we don't need to throw it all away. Use what works for you."

True! And I often act like that. I do not buy every word Sarno says - though I like a lot.

But the part with the absued child (who should FORGIVE the stepfather ) actually turned me off quite a bit.
I think that that kind of approach actually can do a lot of harm.
But I think that you can teach your mind to be more positive and
really benefit from that.
Ans somteimes Katies "question" can be good. But to always have that
strategy seems to me like living in "pleasentville" and NOT the reality.
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altherunner

Canada
511 Posts

Posted - 10/28/2005 :  21:18:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I found her book to be a useful tool to stop having obsessive, repetitive, thoughts. Someone would criticize me, and I would think about it for a long time, over and over. Kind of obsesive compulsive.
I did not really think much about her induvidual cases as much as the concept of releasing the thoughts. I have found it to be a great help in a short time. Someone can do something I don't like or appreciate, and it bugs me for a few minutes, instead of a few days.
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Michele

249 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2005 :  15:38:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Speaking from experience (as one who has been abused), I was also turned off by the conversation with the woman who was abused as a child. But I did grasp her concept of abusing myself over and over again by constantly reliving the experiences. I'm still working on letting it go, but that did give me a new perspective.

I, too, thought some of the book was a bit on the extreme side but will take the basics and continue with my own awesome therapist.
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n/a

560 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2005 :  19:27:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It my opinion, Katie's book has to be read or, even better, listened to at least 3 times before it even begins to sink in. To listen to the book is a very unique experience, especially the conversation with the sexually abused lady who broke down and wept bitterly but experienced a profound release from the suffering that plagued her for years.

If there were aspects of the conversation that was hard to deal with you might want to use the four questions on your re-actions and see where you go with that. Remember, Katie does not provide answers, she only asks questions and you find the answer within yourself. Sadly, our thoughts we have about things, events, people etc. get in the way and, as a result, cause us a lot of personal suffering. These thoughts need to be subjected to questioning to see if they are really true, examined as to how they affect us and see if there is an alternative statement that may be as true our truer than our original thought. Many times, and I speak for myself here, the temptation is to cling onto a thought, sometimes for years, and that thought(s) causes me a lot of personal suffering, such as "should have" or "could have." But, is the thought true, really true, and who or what would I be without that thought? Only I can answer that for myself, and only you can answer it for yourself. No one else can do it for you. But I will tell you this much from my experience, the "should have" or "could have" thoughts in my mind inflict me with pain and suffering and this is where a book like Katie's really helps.

I hope you all find relief from your pain and suffering no matter what path you chose to find that relief.

Edited by - n/a on 10/31/2005 19:43:41
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