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anirishguy
Ireland
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 Posted - 08/17/2005 : 08:49:55
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Hi, Still living with excruciating pain down my left leg after 6 weeks using Dr. Sarn's technique. Just received the result of my MRI scan which reads: "There is a left paracentral disc herniation evident at the L5 – S1 level which is compressing the left S1 nerve root and impinging on the thecal sac. Normal calibre spinal canal is seen. No evidence of significant abnormality at the L3-4 or the L4-5 disc levels". I am now in a quandary.I now know there is a physical cause to my pain viz the herniated disc rubbing against the sciatica nerve. Surely I can not convince my mind that my subconscious mind is causing this pain by using oxigan depravation so as to divert attention from anxiety, worries, problems filed in my subconscious memory? Do I now treat the obvious physical problem with physical techniques?  This is my quandary. My doctors advise me to have the offending disc surgically removed. All advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, |
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Scottydog
United Kingdom
330 Posts |
Posted - 08/17/2005 : 09:26:43
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Hi Irishguy,
Do you really know you have a physical cause. Where on your left leg is the pain?
I have a scoliosis with bends at T1 and L3/4. The "physical cause" for my intermittent backache over many years - but it disappeared the day after I read Dr Sarno -- so don't be too sure.
Anne
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Dave
USA
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Posted - 08/17/2005 : 09:54:14
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Originally posted by anirishguy
I now know there is a physical cause to my pain viz the herniated disc rubbing against the sciatica nerve.
If this is truly your thinking then you really have only one choice: go the route of traditional medicine.
Otherwise, you have to change your thinking entirely. You cannot use Dr. Sarno's methods if you believe that the herniated disc is causing your pain.
Understand that TMS is a clever process. It knows the location of the herniation and produces exactly the symptoms that are expected.
Dr. Sarno's book contains all the ammunition you need to "convince your mind" that the pain is not caused by the herniation. But in the end, it's up to you. If you can't get over that hump, the pain will persist. If in the end you still believe the herniation is responsible then you need to follow your doctor's advice. |
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anirishguy
Ireland
10 Posts |
Posted - 08/17/2005 : 14:30:10
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Thanks Dave and Scottydog,
Since I posted my "Quandary" Topic this morning, I have
found out by doing a search that my Topic has already
been well discussed and dealt with. The following link refers:-
http://tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?OPIC_ID=1142&SearchTerms=herniated
the old topic was posted by Joel D. on 07/04/2005 : 17:08:21 and the Replies are really helpful,
Thanks again guys, Will resolve again to prove the scalpel yeilding
butchers wrong and will let you know. An Irish Guy |
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anirishguy
Ireland
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PeterW
Canada
102 Posts |
Posted - 08/17/2005 : 14:59:11
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Do you see yourself as a likely TMS candidate and the typical personaIity profile? I'd suggest taking Dr Schecter's TMS Questionnaire to help you determine if this is likely your problem - visit http://www.mindbodymedicine.com/q.html
I'm pretty new at this approach too - I scored 8/10 on this test so it's quite likely I have it. But be careful to answer the questions as honestly as you can.
Another question - does the sciatic pain absolutely correspond to where it should be for a disk herniation at that level? Or does it move around at all? These are all clues.
Ultimately, only you can decide for yourself the best route for you to take. If you were In my home province you'd be waiting months for surgery anyway, and there'd be nothing to lose by giving the Sarno method some more time and effort. |
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Suz
559 Posts |
Posted - 08/17/2005 : 15:04:10
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I second Dave.
Sarno's theory goes totally against modern medicine and their reading of MRIs. I had sciatic pain down my left or right leg for 12 years. 12 years is a long time! I had loads of mris and lots of physical therapy. They told me that I had a bulging disc at L5 and that was pressing on the nerve - so what! Sarno discovered (you have to read his book) that the body is so clever that the nerve switches off in order for the body not to have pain. Basically - compressed nerves mean nothing. After I accepted this diagnosis - and embraced Sarno's ideas, I have never looked back. It is fantastic! |
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Susie
USA
319 Posts |
Posted - 08/18/2005 : 09:44:23
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| Hi Irishguy. If you buy all that medical jibbirish you are up s---s creek without a paddle. We have all heard many variations of the same theme and have all been frightened out of our minds. You are certainly at a crossroads. One direction leads to alot of pain,expense,and misery. The other direction simply takes some thought and understanding. The choice really isn't that difficult. |
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Stryder
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Posted - 08/18/2005 : 16:48:43
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Hi anirishguy,
Nerve compression will cause numbness, not pain. TMS will also cause numbness. I also had a L5-S1 extrusion on my MRI 10 years ago. No surgery, later I found Dr. Sarno and are now pain free.
Don't draw a conclusion that just because you _see_ the bad disk on the MRI that it is causing the pain. Its not significant.
Take care, -Stryder |
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