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 hip pain, limp, crippled with fear (and rage)
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paulcote

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Posted - 07/02/2006 :  13:11:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello,

I am new to this forum. Although I signed up a while ago, just recently I am deciding to get into it with more full force. I have been experiencing a lot of hip pain. Previously I have had back pain. In fact, when I slept two nights ago I had back pain in bed but yesterday after reading Dr. Sarno's book a bit and realizing how pissed off I was at my wife, I began remembering how pissed off I am about a lot of little things when I am not being nice and you know the back pain was gone for last night and I slept well.

Mostly I have hip pain. It is TMS. It moves around a bit. It produces a limp. Even when I don't feel the pain because of all the pain I've had, I still LIMP! Then people ask me questions which I can't really answer besides... please don't ask me dumb questions!

As I look on my life and the life of my father and brother I realize although I'm the only one who knows about TMS, we all have it.

I want out. I don't want to hire a shrink. I do want help. I need you alls help to help me to get this anger out somehow. To realize this anger is the cause and get over this limp. Please show me how to help myself.

When I do quiet time and try to find all I am pissed about, I can find a big pile of it and then feel a big fire of anger inside and then my hip pain is GONE. But how to make this all the time and not have to also keep remembering my RAGE!!!!

thanks

Paul C.

tennis tom

USA
4749 Posts

Posted - 07/02/2006 :  20:00:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Fellow Hippy Paul C,

Your physical TMS symptom is the same as mine. Started off in my back and worked it's way down to my hip, once diagnosed as a "compensatory gait disorder".

I'm honestly too tired to give you a long reply, because I've been on the tennis courts from 9am to 5Pm today and don't have much energy left. I still have to read some of Sarno's new book, THE DIVIDED MIND, and do an hour of pool work.

May I suggest you do a search here, either under "hips" or my old posts for my "hip/limp" story. Be warned, as you probably already know I am quite a prolific poster.

You are on the right track. Good luck. Feel free to ask any questions.

Regards,
tt
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Stryder

686 Posts

Posted - 07/03/2006 :  11:15:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi paulcote,

Try this.

When you are driving in your car by yourself on the highway, yell and scream. Swear at the things that make you angry.

Beat up on a pillow.

Twist and wring wet towels as hard as you can.

If you will not alarm the neighbors or your family, take a baseball bat and demolish a steel trash can or old couch (wear safety goggles) or go to the recycling center and break glass (wear safety equipment).

Feel your anger, try not to keep it in.

Feel your anger in a benign way, not on your family and loved ones.

Take care, -Stryder
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Darko

Australia
387 Posts

Posted - 07/03/2006 :  19:40:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
two words.......BOXING BAG. Get a boxing bag, and punch to hell out of it. The best thing is, you can totally wig out, start foaming at the mouth if need be and you won't look like a complete madman..........well maybe......whatever. Also you said you don't want to see a shrink, why not? It could help you, depending on how big your rage is. One thing I've learned is that you should never write something off. I said the I did want to see a shrink but after many years of pain I'll see any shink you want, all day long.....I'll even bake a cake for him. Then I'll picture his face on the boxing bag and punch the hell out of it while I remember the $110 I just payed for him to sit there and listen to me bitch. :-) Life is great isn't it!? My friend, you have to ask yourself. Why are you so pissed off?? Frustrated at how many stupid people there are around? Need to achieve your goals? The wife bustin ya chops about stuff? Bills? None of this will ever change Paul............just your attitude towards it. Don't be the victim you have to rise above it. People will piss you off everyday, accept it, allow it, be ok with it, fell it, rise above it. one thing I think we should all master is knowing we are not our emotions......we just have them. I hope this helps you in some way.

"The one thing we can change in every situation is our attitude"
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Carolyn

184 Posts

Posted - 07/03/2006 :  20:23:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I found the audio tapes by Louse Haye- Anger Releasing to be a good way to get rid of some of the anger. She walks you through a calming meditation and has you bring up people and things you are angry at while in that relaxed state when some of your guard is down. It seems like a kind of silly little excercise but I have been very surprised at some of things I harbor deep anger about that I am not normally aware of. Plus you really feel a lot lighter when you are done.
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bdystore

18 Posts

Posted - 07/03/2006 :  22:44:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tennis tom

Hi Fellow Hippy Paul C,

Your physical TMS symptom is the same as mine. Started off in my back and worked it's way down to my hip, once diagnosed as a "compensatory gait disorder".



I found this diagnoses to be interesting in and of itself. Does it suggest that one is compensating for a lack of some quality, feeling etc?
I love to watch people. One of the things I have observed is the way they carry themselves. Their "gait" reveals determination, happiness, confidence etc. The questions I would ask myself regarding my hip pain: What do you feel you lack? What are you compensating for? Are you measuring up? What will you do about your "shortcomings"?
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paulcote

9 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2006 :  12:35:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for your suggestions. What I missed the first time reading through Dr. Sarno's books was what it meant to 'think psychological'. I would just acknowledge that the cause of the hip pain was psychological. Evidently this is not enough because a person has to actually think about what could be pissing him off. What I begin to realize is that the anger is there often but I am not paying attention to it. Hence, repressed! I like the ideas about the punching bags. I do something like that mentally. Shadow boxing would be a good excercise routine.

As far as changing of attitude goes, because I try to maintain a good attitude I have back/hip pain is what I figure. Grin and bear it on my back and hip! I don't think any of the positive thinking stuff helps this because the unconscious mind doesn't care about that crap. The problem is to be able to feel the anger and still realize its just a bunch of baloney. I have also ordered Dr. Sarno's new book which I just found out about. I have the Body Mind Syndrome and Healing Back Pain.

As far as a shrink goes. Yes I am 'afraid' to pay him. Maybe I could journal and get there. I don't know how to get a shrink. How do you get one? Go to your doctor?
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bdystore

18 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2006 :  12:57:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I like the idea of chopping wood. Gives one the sense that he/she has control, strength, determination. It's also quite meditative. You must focus on the task at hand to avoid chopping off a body part.
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tennis tom

USA
4749 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2006 :  12:35:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi paulcote,

If it were me, I would find a TMS trained therapist. I consulted with Don Dubin in person and then by phone on the road, while overlooking the Pacific. That can work. I wouldn't waste my money on a non-specific TMS therapist.

I am sure others would say a certain type of psch is OK, I can't remember what they're called.

But to my way of thinking, why re-invent the wheel and have a shrink learn about TMS on your time and dime--it just slows down the "cure" time.

To find TMS practitoners, go to this board's, HOME PAGE and look for the links. Also the tarpityoga. com site has good TMS info and a great map of where TMS practitoners are in the US. TMS doctor should have therapists they refer their patients to.

Good Luck,
tt
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paulcote

9 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2006 :  19:36:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
tennistom,

I just read about the journaling and think that might work for me as I am beginning to understand all of the things that are bugging me. I think this will get it. I don't want a shrink really.
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