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lobstershack

Australia
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Posted - 05/11/2005 :  21:40:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've been thinking (a good thing, I know)...

Even when I had never heard of TMS and was still chasing symptoms and treating conditions that never existed, once and a while I'd have a thought pop up telling me that my symptoms could perhaps have an emotional origin.

For instance, all of a sudden I'd catch myself thinking:

"What if I have to face my (poor) relationship with my father in order to get better?"

But I'd quickly squash that thought because it couldn't possibly be true!

Another similar example: there was this Radiohead song that had this line that went, "Just cause you feel it doesn't mean it's there" that always resonated with me everytime I heard it.

Now I know TMS is "there" in the sense that real physiological changes are taking place, but this was pointing to the fact that what I thought was there (Lyme Disease, Gluten intolerance, etc.) really wasn't. Have I lost you yet?

Another thing I'd find myself thinking and saying repeatedly pre-TMS was "As soon as _____ is gone I'm going to do _____, _____ and _____." Which is so terribly ironic considering I was essentially placing the cart before the horse.

Just a smattering of musings...

Goodnight.


Seth

Edited by - lobstershack on 05/11/2005 21:42:56

Dave

USA
1864 Posts

Posted - 05/12/2005 :  07:54:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'll add another Radiohead lyric that is good advice when fighting TMS:


If you try the best you can
The best you can is good enough

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Laura

USA
655 Posts

Posted - 05/12/2005 :  09:03:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great post! I love the lyrics "Just cause you feel it doesn't mean it's there." How true!!! And the other thing you said about "As soon as _____ is gone..." Wow! That's me. What I do is, I always live in what "might someday" happen. I'm told that's the wrong way to think. I've read and have been told that it's important to believe that you are well now and that you are healing right NOW (not in the near distant future). This is the type of stuff Louise Hay talks about. For the past few years, I've thought "When my dizziness goes away, I'd love to go back to Maui..." The "experts" say that this kind of thinking is wrong.

I loved the lyrics Dave posted as well. I haven't listened much to Radiohead but maybe I should. They have a great deal of wisdom.

Laura


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MikeC

USA
43 Posts

Posted - 05/12/2005 :  09:18:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Laura,

I just want to reaffirm what you mentioned about pain and the healing process. I go to a behavioral psychologist who specializes in the pain process. He told me the more you pay attention to the pain, the longer it hangs around. We have all been programmed through the acute pain process that when we feel pain, we should back off. That's true of acute pain but the truly opposite holds true for chronic pain. Dr Sarno states this in his book that you should try to do more as the pain lessens but do it gradually so you are not scared by the pain. Dr. Siegel states the same thing in his book as well. He provides more of a documented plan on how to go about it.

I know that Dr. Sarno preaches that you should go to an analytical psychologist to help with TMS. As a person who goes to a behvioral psychologist, you would be surprised to find out how Dr Sarno's philosophy and the behavioral psychology field is not really that far apart. At least not with the psychologist that I deal with. He agrees with Sarno's philosophies but he uses other stuff as well. The goal is to convince us that the pain is there because of the way we react to it. We give it too much significance to rule our lives which is why it never goes away.

With all that being said, it would be nice to think that we will all be pain free forever. That is unlikely but we can lessen the significance of the pain sensensation by learning not to suffer from it.

I hope that makes some sense.





Mike C
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Laura

USA
655 Posts

Posted - 05/14/2005 :  11:16:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mike,

Thanks for your post. I have read it several times. I need to keep those thoughts in my mind, especially the line where you said "lessen the significance of the pain sensation by learning not to suffer from it." Right on!

Thank you!

Laura
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