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susan828

USA
291 Posts

Posted - 12/01/2013 :  22:48:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
To Busted: I am getting my BRCA results this week and am scared stiff. You were wise and brave to get the hysterectomy. I'm sure you know the odds of getting both cancers when you're BRCA 1 or 2. You know what it's like to hear the words "It's cancer". I don't think anyone can know unless they've gone through that, or something else that's life threatening. It changed my whole perspective. Going from diagnosis day to hysterectomy to chemo all within 3 weeks, it's just unbelievably stressful and physically painful, I don't know how I am keeping it together. I wish you the best and I understand how you feel about the stress. In my case, recurrences are the norm and I have to try to reduce stress and change my diet in the hope that I can live out my life with no recurrences. I always thought it's the other person, not me. Rude awakening.
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eric watson

USA
601 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2013 :  07:37:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Susan some things we cant explain, like the children with cancer. Isn't that so wrong,I know you're weak and have been through a lot but I have noticed you mention how your life was over and you're afraid. You should have some normal reaction to what you've found out for a little bit but you know the only way to heal is to start thinking of living again dear.

I believe everyone here is crying in there heart for you cause we draw close on these boards and we often think a lot of each other. I think you've done well with your tms studies and I don't think you should be mad at yourself. Of course that's a natural reaction too for a while but come back to the living because you are still with us and that means you can win this battle.

How ever you decide to fight this battle , remember you have to love yourself with this cancer and all - not ignoring your situation at all but as you know by now getting mad at this situation hasn't helped yet has it dear.

I've coached many people with cancer and I know a big factor in the equation was for the person to learn to live life with love and self compassion not fearing anything and always thinking in the now focused on life.

We can look at Norman cousins as you've mentions that you have read his books and I know that's something hed say. Never believe your not good to heal. Never loose your self compassion and in time get your hope back with plenty of laughter, you should be fine.

Think this way till its the only way you think and if you cant do it soon then practice till you can and don't get mad if your not that good at it just don't stop living cause of cancer.

Smile on the way to get chemo, ( it seems impossible but its not) see yourself happy and healed in your minds eye. Never doubt the power of life that can change this cancer to nothing in time.

I wondered why some people with cancer and other body ailments didn't just heal after our bodies were completely re-newed in a year ya know and in john kehoes book he sited that folks look at what they are and they think that's the way it is and it wont change so the signals that renew the body each year are just sending more signals of their ailments back to thus creating the same symptom over and over again.

So start seeing yourself cancer free and laugh more, be happy on purpose and believe itll all be well, don't fight in an angered way. Fight the good fight of faith with love and hope, acceptance too that you can do all things.

We are very powerful beings and if you believe you can rid this issue with cancer you will.I believe you already know what to do you're just getting over the shock. Be strong and stand up to this bully cancer as you are already doing.

Yes, I've had cancer on my shoulder. Didn't say anything about it cause some things are better left un- said. I knew that if I could get my mind on living and move in that direction then id be fine. I was still scared in a way - isn't it obvious that we get scared but you can still live life to the full and you'll heal.

Don't think about the 70 or 80 percent that have recurrences think about the 20 or 30 percent that don't have recurrences. You can win and I believe your super in the way your going about getting things done.

Remember TMS is a lifestyle that's created by tension, strain and stress - worry. Need I say more, The opposite of that is the cure to tms and its about tension reduction and loving self any way you look at it.

I believe the baby question you had sums up that even if you had no pressures in life that with the environmental issues and even the air we breathe its still possible to contract cancer in a fashion other than stress.

Its not about if its right that this person said the right thing or not, its about Susan now. Being sure that all things will be well even in the midst of doubt and hurt. If you keep your smile long enough and grab ahold of hope you should do fine. Believe my dear, believe.

The cancer on my shoulder is almost gone and if it wants to grow any then ill keep smiling because I know that smile is my power. In a little over a year now I have seen it grow when I worried and I have seen it fade almost to nothing when I just accepted it and even held love for that part of my shoulder cause I believe love is what it needs and now this morning I can barely see a thing.

Ill have more up- dates soon when I go back to the DR. but mine is on the skin and I could have had it cut off awhile back but I decided not too.

In your case dear I know why you do what your doing with the chemo, its a knowing in your heart. We know that self compassion and hope will go a long way.

Also never forget the power in forgiveness and visualizing yourself full of health totally healed.

there's many ways to battle cancer and the strongest by far is acceptance , forgiveness, gratitude , and a will to win.

You will win, always smile and love with all your heart.




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chickenbone

Panama
398 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2013 :  08:01:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Beautiful post by Eric, as always. Susan and Eric, I wish you both all the best. You both can do it!!
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RageSootheRatio

Canada
430 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2013 :  08:11:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
THANK YOU, Eric, yes a beautiful post as chickenbone noted.
Cancer or TMS, it is helpful to be reminded of the power of acceptance and hope and love.
~RSR
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Busted

73 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2013 :  20:39:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Susan, I will keep you in my thoughts and hope that your BRCA results come back negative. Thank you for saying I am brave, that means a lot to me, although honestly I had the surgery out of fear more than anything else. I know that ovarian cancer is horrific and I am so sorry you have to go through this, but you are brave too, and you will beat it! We are all rooting for you!
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susan828

USA
291 Posts

Posted - 12/03/2013 :  14:02:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Gosh, you all are so kind. eric, thank you for the encouraging post and same to everyone else who took the time to write something.

To Busted, I am BRCA negative. I am so relieved. As you know, this doesn't mean I can't get breast cancer but the chances are lower. You and everyone else here knows what it's like waiting for a test result. The worst anxiety.

My last chemo is tomorrow (for now anyway pending cat scan which is the final word in a month). Then the difficulty first begins in a sense, resuming life, getting physical strength back and focusing on how to make life more stress free and enjoying it knowing that cancer now is a shadow that will never go away.

For someone who is hypochondriacal as I am, all the "what if this pain is really from something bad", for it to finally have been real has just been so hard. I will still be on this board and will surely give an update after the scan in January. I still have TMS, regardless of the cancer and am very grateful for this forum.

Edited by - susan828 on 12/03/2013 14:04:29
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Busted

73 Posts

Posted - 12/03/2013 :  16:20:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So happy to hear that Susan! And the fact that you had a hysterectomy should cut down your chances of getting random breast cancer as well. But check with your doc on that.
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andy64tms

USA
589 Posts

Posted - 12/05/2013 :  12:56:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Susan,

I am so glad your tests came back OK, and your last chemo is over, you can heave a sigh of relief as these points of anxiety are somewhat diminished. My dear sister in law is also at a turning point with her cancer as she is now at home, so I think about you also when I imagine the pains and discomfort and fear that she is going through. I posted a thread about her a while back. She is amazing, as she has acceptance of her condition and is very reluctant with giving the details.

Eric is right on with his wonderful post. It is time for you to believe in yourself and put your cancer in the background. May you find joy and happiness in your life once again, after all, this is what we are here for. That cheerful side of yourself that you mentioned in one of your past posts is who you really are!


Andy
Past TMS Experience in 2000, with success.
Charlie Horse on neck for 20 years, is almost gone.
Books:
Healing Back Pain
Unlearn your Pain
The Great Pain Deception

Edited by - andy64tms on 12/05/2013 12:58:20
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filipe

Portugal
280 Posts

Posted - 06/02/2015 :  07:33:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by susan828
But if you attribute cancer to stress, how do you explain children's cancer, children who were really happy with well adjusted parents, etc.?



It is somwhow funny that say that. Are you saying that children don't have stress? Is that what you are saying?

When I was a boy I was petrified about the idea of having an incurable disease. I was happy and with well adjusted parents, I guess. Anyway, I thoght I was very very sick. I never mentioned this to my parents, I always kept this to my self, and suffered in silence, because I was affraid that if they new, that they might not loved me anymore, and maybe abandon me. This is how ireational, we all are, when we are children. I also remember, being so affraid of having a heart attack, or cancer. Why? Because people are always talking about this "dreadfull" deseases on TV.

On the other hand, it is very difficult for Children to release their fears, and repressed emotions. It takes a certain kind of maturity to do it. Even for adults it is difficult. So I really don't understand what you were trying to say...


Edited by - filipe on 06/02/2015 07:38:36
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filipe

Portugal
280 Posts

Posted - 06/02/2015 :  07:42:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by filipe

[quote]Originally posted by susan828
But if you attribute cancer to stress, how do you explain children's cancer, children who were really happy with well adjusted parents, etc.?



It is somwhow funny that say that. Are you saying that children don't have stress? Is that what you are saying?

When I was a boy I was petrified about the idea of having an incurable disease. I was happy and with well adjusted parents, I guess. Anyway, I thoght I was very very sick. I never mentioned this to my parents, I always kept this to my self, and suffered in silence, because I was affraid that if they new, that they might not loved me anymore, and maybe abandon me. This is how irrational, we all are, when we are children. I also remember, being so affraid of having a heart attack, or cancer. Why? Because people are always talking about these "dreadfull" deseases on TV. This stuff affects our unconcious mind.

On the other hand, it is very difficult for Children to release their fears, and repressed emotions. It takes a certain kind of maturity to do it. Even for adults it is difficult.

When River Phoenxi died of an heart attack. They didn't mentioned in the beggining drugs. For several weeks I remembre waiking up in the middle of the night in panic, about the same happening to me...
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