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icelikeaninja
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 Posted - 06/04/2013 : 10:27:07
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Upon first time meeting Sarno he said 5 minutes into the tms diagnosis that I needed therapy.
With me I had a very hectic childhood, every type of abuse/neglect but not sexual. But I do have some issues when it comes to that topic.
Saw a wonderful tms therapist for a few years. The only reason I really stopped was because of cost, but I looked forward to seeing her and always felt a sense of relief after.
One person mentioned to me to make sure it was not a placebo or that I "needed" to see my therapist.
Looking back at it, as a TMS/Sarno therapist she cued me on little body movements I made when talking about an uncomfortable experience and then tried to make me sit and elicit an emotion.
I never really felt that emotion but she said just by how I smiled when talking about something devastating meant I needed to work on "feeling".
What are your experiences? Have therapists mentioned little gestures or movements you make when talking about something unpleasant?
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pspa123
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Posted - 06/04/2013 : 10:30:14
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That is mentioned in the treatment chapter in Divided Mind and is also one of the tools in ISTDP, if not other depth psychology modalities. I personally did ISTDP for a few months and did not feel that I was making any progress with it, although I am not sure if it was because of the therapist or the therapy. Candidly I did not find the pointing out of facial expressions etc. particularly helpful as it just made me self-conscious and it didn't seem to me they were really a profound window into unconscious content, but that is just my opinion.
As an example, I think it can be perfectly natural to smile when talking about something unpleasant -- a sad or rueful smile or resigned smile if you will -- and doesn't necessarily indicate that one is disconnected from one's feelings, as ISTDP seems to teach. |
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icelikeaninja
USA
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Posted - 06/04/2013 : 10:37:45
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I remember the first month the book came out I bought a copy and never finished it because my pain went away less than 1/3 into the book.
Guess it is time to dust it off and read that chapter again. |
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tmsjptc
USA
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Posted - 06/04/2013 : 10:46:24
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I read two other Dr. Sarno books but never The Divided Mind. I'm 18 months into this but am not 100% yet - although I am doing much better of course. I think I'll go ahead and order The Divided Mind and read it as well.
I've done a couple of consults but never in person. One was via Skype and the other over the phone. So, gestures or movements weren't really possible to be noticed. But, one therapist asked me how my chest felt (was my heart beat more noticeable, etc) while recounting an experience. It was interesting because I was talking non-chalant as if the experience didn't mean much to me but when he asked the question I stopped and self-evaluated and realized that my heart was racing just a little bit.
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icelikeaninja
USA
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Posted - 06/04/2013 : 12:02:56
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I know I am always a bit more relaxed in the head and body after a session.
It's not like a hallelujah I am free of this tms issue. I just feel relief and know for certain things will be okay. It is also good to work with someone who has seen these issues and knows what to look for.
Most of society would disagree with this tms issue but I myself have been there and back and there again and know for certain there is something to this.
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la_kevin
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Posted - 06/05/2013 : 10:50:35
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"Therapy" is a misnomer though.
If you're journaling it's a form of therapy. If you're doing any mental work it's therapy. Many people with TMS can't afford therapy who need it also. So there's too many variables.
I did therapy with a TMS trained therapist and it's actually what helped me break my pain cycle, but that's only because he gave me a few tips which were the keys I needed.
I'm not sure if going into my childhood was needed. It felt great to talk and cry about and such, but I'm not convinced that "rectifying past conflicts' has much to do with the TMS mindstate being changed.
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"Life is what happens while you are busy making other plans"- John Lennon
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who are the 10% that needed therapy?
