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indiana
Denmark
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 Posted - 05/01/2013 : 08:23:59
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Originally posted by balto
Hi Indiana, I had tmj and I did got rid of it using mind body approach.
My thought is Conventional medicine and dentist have no cure for tmj, why not just take a chance and treat it as if it is tms. Devote a couple months of your life and go 100% mind body and see if you can defeat it. TMJ is not a life and death disease, conventional approach can wait a couple months.
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No, I don't know everything. I'm just here to share my experience.
Hi Balto,
After having spent a lot of money on splints which did not work and
dealing with indifferent dentists I am off dentists as far as TMJ is concerned. The other alternative is treating it as TMS which I am going to do. My pain is not unbearable but very distracting and the symptoms make me anxious.
So I will treat it as if it were TMS |
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GTfan
USA
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Posted - 05/09/2013 : 14:58:21
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I have another question regarding TMJ. First, a little background:
I have never "officially" been diagnosed with TMJ. The pain started around the same time I was having chest pain, acid reflux, and esophagus spasms from anxiety. I thought it was an esophagus spasm, because it felt like it was in my throat. Eventually, I did a lot of research and decided that it had to be TMJ. Shortly after, the pain seemed to move around and eventually settled in my right jaw.
I had grinded my teeth down for years in my sleep and also poppped the right side of my jaw a lot, so this made sense. The pain lessened when I started wearing my night guard (placebo effect?). And now I still struggle with it every day, but it mostly isn't terrible.
The problem is that I feel like I still "baby" my jaw unconsciously. I try not to chew too long or open my mouth too wide. Should I just really try to focus on ignoring TMJ completely and acting as if nothing is going on by using my jaw forcefully when eating and whatever else?
You’ll fall down, you stumble, you land square on your face. And every time that happens, you get back on your feet. You get up just as fast as you can, no matter how many times you need to do it |
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Uma
USA
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Posted - 05/12/2013 : 02:08:54
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| Wow it's so nice to hear from people who understand how hard this TMJ is. I've had so much body pain over the years, but the facial pain—jaw, eyes, ears, sinus, etc.—having your whole face hurt, it is so in your face, and it makes you not want to face anyone because there is never a real smile there, you just want to hide and cope with the pain. It is like being in a nonstop torture device. I guess if this is TMS it is a pretty effective distraction. No matter how well my life is going I cannot be happy if I'm feeling this. I cried when I read some of the posts on this thread, to hear from people who know how horrible this is. I believe it is TMS because I have been so tense for so long, and it's let go before in the past, but not for months and I feel like I am going crazy. Anyway, just a big huge thanks for this thread. |
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indiana
Denmark
70 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2013 : 04:34:39
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Originally posted by GTfan
I have another question regarding TMJ. First, a little background:
I have never "officially" been diagnosed with TMJ. The pain started around the same time I was having chest pain, acid reflux, and esophagus spasms from anxiety. I thought it was an esophagus spasm, because it felt like it was in my throat. Eventually, I did a lot of research and decided that it had to be TMJ. Shortly after, the pain seemed to move around and eventually settled in my right jaw.
I had grinded my teeth down for years in my sleep and also poppped the right side of my jaw a lot, so this made sense. The pain
lessened when I started wearing my night guard (placebo effect?). And now I still struggle with it every day, but it mostly isn't terrible.
The problem is that I feel like I still "baby" my jaw unconsciously. I try not to chew too long or open my mouth too wide. Should I just really try to focus on ignoring TMJ completely and acting as if nothing is going on by using my jaw forcefully when eating and whatever else?
You’ll fall down, you stumble, you land square on your face. And every time that happens, you get back on your feet. You get up just as fast as you can, no matter how many times you need to do it
Hi GTfan
My advice would be to chew as normally as possible and also open your mouth as wide as you can. Trying to ignore TMJ is the best ting but also the most difficult to do. |
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indiana
Denmark
70 Posts |
Posted - 05/12/2013 : 04:52:48
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Originally posted by Uma
Wow it's so nice to hear from people who understand how hard this TMJ is. I've had so much body pain over the years, but the facial pain—jaw, eyes, ears, sinus, etc.—having your whole face hurt, it is so in your face, and it makes you not want to face anyone because there is never a real smile there, you just want to hide and cope with the pain. It is like being in a nonstop torture device. I guess if this is TMS it is a pretty effective distraction. No matter how well my life is going I cannot be happy if I'm feeling this. I cried when I read some of the posts on this thread, to hear from people who know how horrible this is. I believe it is TMS because I have been so tense for so long, and it's let go before in the past, but not for months and I feel like I am going crazy. Anyway, just a big huge thanks for this thread.
Hi Uma,
It is good to get an accurate description of what TMJ can do to you
and is exactly how I feel. Unfortunately I have been reading a lot on the TMJ forum. Don't do that. It is nothing like this forum because people only write about how horrible and hopeless they feel and that is how you feel after reading the threads. Lately I have picked myself up and decided to treat this tension everywhere but especially around my mouth and jaw as TMS. I have become better at distracting from it (saying to myself I am tensing up because it is psychological). I have noticed what an angry person I really am and it must have something to do with my tension. So I am working at that. I am not thinking of going to more dentists, doctors or even to get a massage. I used to be worried about my posture. Now I just sit as I please. I am doing a little yoga and my daughter has thought me some exercises which are especically good for loosening up in your face and upper body. I am walking 2 km every day (sometimes 3 km on bicycle as well). Of course it has helped that we have gotten rid of this horrible winter and I can do gardening in the fresh air. All in all my mood has become better because I have some hope now that eventually I might be able to relax which would help my face- and jaw muscles. It is very important to avoid stress and if I feel it coming on or if I get angry I ask myself why. After "analysing" what's wrong I try to become calm.
I can only say what has helped me but I guess everybody is different. All the best
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gmar7814
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Posted - 05/15/2013 : 13:16:30
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I developed TMJ several months after developing RSI. This is what made me suspicious about RSI because TMJ was a mysterious disease like RSI and I thought that it indicated that both may be "stress" related. This is what finally convinced me to give Sarno's approach a chance. Low and behold, my TMJ and RSI were both cured within a week. The TMJ does come back on occasion, but only briefly (like an hour or two), because I just don't worry about it or pay it any attention.
I am 100% certain that TMJ is a TMS equivalent. |
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plum
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/15/2013 : 17:16:33
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gmar7814, so true, giving the damned thing attention is the flashpoint. I have to observe a certain personal irony here; a few weeks ago, I returned from a *run* (foolish endeavour now abandoned), and decided an English breakfast was the order of the day. Duly lifted out frying pan and lo and behold my wrist 'gave way'. Hmm methinks. Unlikely such action can occasion bodily harm and decide that tms has overplayed it's hand. pun intended.
But here's the thing. Over time it's flung all manner of upper and lower back pain, shoulder woes, achilles tendon pain (currently having a jolly) and such at me and I care less so no cigar. TMJ is a freakily different matter. So I lap your words up and keep the faith. Aye. I do. |
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Still in doubt whether TMJ is TMS
