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gigalos

Netherlands
310 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2013 :  14:59:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Today I made a halfhour walk, something I wasn't able to do for nearly three months. The symptoms I have are shifting pains in the groin/hip/buttock and decreased control of my legs from standing or walking. It is all getting better slowly since I accepted TMS/MBS.

The first half I had mild discomfort and heavy legs, which I don't find odd because I have some physical catching up to do.

I had a small eureka moment when I was halfway. During my walks I usually tend to think about all kinds of things. Some of those thoughts are about nice things, some of them are about things that make me anxious. What if my mind just don't want me to walk for that reason... What if my mind connects walking to an increased chance of surfacing emotions and therefore creates pain and control issues?? The same goes for cycling by the way..

After this observation, I stood still for a while to watch some birds and didn't have any issues with my legs, which I normally would experience from standing still.

I finished the walk pretty successful. I mantra'ed my way home "Im strong, I feel positive" and kept thinking of my theory. Near the end, I had the choice between taking an asphalted path, which oddly gives me the worst control issues, or a soft, sandy path. I chose the asphalt path in an effort to confront the control issue. The first two minutes were bad, but after that it got better and better. I recall I even raised my fist out of pride and joy.

I am not there yet as I am reasonably sore right now, but I think I solved a little piece of the puzzle today. Any thoughts on my theory??

njoy

Canada
188 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2013 :  15:08:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Absolutely brilliant. I will put your post on my list of good ideas about tms.

*****
"It's worth considering that tms is not a treatment but rather an unfolding of the self, and a way of living as an emotionally aware and engaged soul." Plum
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plum

United Kingdom
641 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2013 :  15:40:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey gorgeous gigalos,

Well done for challenging yourself. Your theory has much merit, I think our minds are endlessly creative in the ways they trick us. I'm so pleased you not only challenged it but gained such a great insight. I also love how this ties in with your happiness post because this success is such a source of joy. No matter how small the gains it is a step (literally!) in the right direction. Sending smiles and love. xxxx
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Ace1

USA
1040 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2013 :  15:41:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
G, it was just the use of your affirmations instead of other thoughts. This is what I have been trying to get across to the people on this forum.
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gigalos

Netherlands
310 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2013 :  16:05:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanx guy and girls,

Ace, I do not fully agree... yet. I know that in order to get better you first have to be and stay convinced about the TMS/BMS mechanism. During my small eureka moment I feel I strengtened that conviction. The other part was using affirmations, I agree with you on that one.


I wonder if it isn't this simple for more stuff, pain as a knive that cuts on both sides.. Pain can act as an distraction and it could also be a way of the mind to prevent you further from getting in situations that tend to imply an increased risk of having/repressing unpleasant emotions.

For example, a bad stomach can distract you from having unpleasant thoughts during the day. If you take a bad stomach that acts up hours before you have to go to some kind of event that you dread, it might be created by the mind to prevent you from going and having to go through all kinds of emotions like anger or anxiety. When the event is really dreadful the bad stomach stays and gives you an excuse to go away, if it is allright after all you often don't even notice the discomfort has subsided.

this may all have been covered in literature or TMS-theory, but for me it is a welcome insight...

Ace, forgive me, I am a really stuborn guy that for some reason wants to find out how things work on his own. It is just how my mind works
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Ace1

USA
1040 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2013 :  16:55:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No problem, you really have to see it for yourself to really believe it, I agree. I do recommend doing the affirmations like I listed for 3 months (even if you don't believe it) and see, I bet you"ll be better. Or do an experiment, do 3 months without affirmations at all and do everything else. Then, Just add the affirmations for the next 3 months. Come back and report on each interval. The 3 months without affirmations, I'll bet you make little or no progress (not to give you a nocebo, just my experience). However the 3 months with them will make you progress a bit (degree depends on how much your mind is susceptible to suggestion). The problem is the effects of affirmations are so subtle, I think even a genius may have a hard time putting it together that they were the thing that helped. Ask yourself on your walk, can you really tease out what it was that helped you? It is very hard. I believe you have already accepted the diagnosis of tms which give people a big jump in their improvement, then they usually stay at the same level at a 75-90% improvement. Good luck to you in whatever way you want to approach this. I'm just here to help if I can.

Edited by - Ace1 on 03/17/2013 17:00:16
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plum

United Kingdom
641 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2013 :  16:59:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Affirmation Ace1, I had a real epiphany about this, this morning. I think one has to experience it, has to *get it*. I'm slowly getting there. Appreciating your patience.
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Ace1

USA
1040 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2013 :  17:03:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's my pleasure plum, just stick with it. I'm proud of you. I know you will recover. I just added a couple of sentences to my reply above, please read it again bc I think it's important.
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plum

United Kingdom
641 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2013 :  17:22:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ace1

It's my pleasure plum, just stick with it. I'm proud of you. I know you will recover. I just added a couple of sentences to my reply above, please read it again bc I think it's important.



Imagination. Intention. Feeling. The thrust of your thoughts is the rudder of your ship, your whole being is the ship. The waves, the sea is the influence of the world. You have to hold your course. You become stronger. The way becomes easier. Plain sailing. The desire for the destination keeps a firm hand on the rudder. Bad thoughts are man over board. Follow your compass. Destination healing. Loving the journey. Loving my little ship. The good ship Plum.
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gigalos

Netherlands
310 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2013 :  17:23:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ace my man, I do use affirmations and don't plan on stopping :)
I only have to up the frequency and be more consequent.

I just wanted to make clear that today I did two things that helped me to make the walk successful:
1) I destroyed any doubts still there about my symptoms being tms because I had an epiphany about how TMS works.
2) So therefore I was better able to apply affirmations, not exactly yours though, to make my walk a succesful one.

I also want to add the wrens and the woodpecker that managed to lift my focus from any pain and leg control... bless mother nature...

thanx for your help

Edited by - gigalos on 03/17/2013 18:14:48
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gigalos

Netherlands
310 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2013 :  17:27:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by plum

Imagination. Intention. Feeling. The thrust of your thoughts is the rudder of your ship, your whole being is the ship. The waves, the sea is the influence of the world. You have to hold your course. You become stronger. The way becomes easier. Plain sailing. The desire for the destination keeps a firm hand on the rudder. Bad thoughts are man over board. Follow your compass. Destination healing. Loving the journey. Loving my little ship. The good ship Plum.



No matter if your course is not a perfectly straight line, it will get you there..
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Dr James Alexander

Australia
127 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2013 :  19:31:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
gigalos- listen primarily to what your experience is telling you. You had an epithany. Something came up from a deep level and made sense to you, and thereby made a difference. This experience (about the depths of what is going on for you) led you to experience less pain. You then started using affirmations to solidify this new experience. Your experience of discovering some of the hidden purpose of your pain is a common experience amongst people who actually get over their pain using the TMS approach. 'Run' with it! You are clearly on the right path for you.

James
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