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lia
USA
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 Posted - 03/06/2013 : 16:01:14
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i'm not sure if my knee pain is TMS or not because i started developing pain in my knees one day while i was exercising. i was also going through some emotional stress at that time though. basically this is the story:
both my knees started hurting way back in december 2012 and the doctor diagnosed me with patellar tendonitis. it's been 2 months going on to 3 and it's getting kind of ridiculous. i want to work out really badly but i can't because i'm afraid that i might aggravate it even further. one doctor told me i have inflammation in my knee and gave me ibuprofen. i took that for two weeks and it did seem to help but i still have pain, "clicking" and squeaking in my knees. my current doctor said i overexerted myself and did too much exercise. i started getting pain while exercising one day. i was dancing and suddenly could barely move my legs anymore. i only danced for around 40 minutes each day and two weeks later, this pain developed. i'm not sure if it's TMS or it's really an overuse injury, since the pain coincides with my exercise. i didn't immediately jump into doing this. i danced for 10-15 minutes each day for around a week before increasing the time to 40 minutes. i've danced like this before to try to lose weight and i also did squats and i never got this type of pain.
i rested and took time off exercising this whole entire time. i didn't have total immobility; i still walked, climbed stairs, did a bit of jumping and running here and there but that's it. i couldn't really avoid those but i think i gave my knees enough rest. 2-3 months is a long time and i don't think this is normal.
i've been stressed lately about my knee pain and suddenly my throat started hurting. talking became such an effort since i had to force every word out and i felt like my voice would give out any second. my dominant arm also starting hurting so much that it hurt to write and use the mouse. i even started using my left hand for everything. i realized that this might be caused by emotional stress so i pushed through the pain and now both my throat and arm are fine. so i'm thinking this might be the case with my knees too?
i started physical therapy two weeks ago and initially it didn't seem to help much but after doing three sessions on 3/2, 3/4 and 3/5, it seems to have gotten a LOT better. on 3/2 though i found out about TMS and started considering the fact that my pain might be TMS.. so i don't know if that has anything to do with it. i asked my therapist if i have inflammation or any structural damage and he said most likely no but he's not sure because i didn't get a MRI. he said i have patellar tracking problems because my knees click but my doctor never told me that. he just said i have patellar tendonitis. my knees were actually quite okay until my doctor told me i have tendonitis and to be careful because injuries will happen much easier. i got scared and regretted exercising. then my legs started feeling weak when walking and i felt like i was back to square one again. they started feeling better again after my physical therapy session on 3/2 but that was around the time i thought about the possibility of TMS.. |
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pspa123
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Posted - 03/06/2013 : 16:17:56
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| Well nobody can say over the internet what your situation is, but as a cautionary tale I treated my right knee pain for quite a while as presumptive TMS before finally and very recently, when the pain got so acute I started to have doubts, getting an MRI which found acute synovitis (inflammation of the joint lining) as well as a large effusion (swelling, fluid, etc.) as well as some other stuff that seems less likely to be a real source of pain. |
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eric watson
USA
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Posted - 03/06/2013 : 16:20:44
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Quote lia)- my knees were actually quite okay until my doctor told me i have tendonitis and to be careful because injuries will happen much easier. i got scared and regretted exercising. then my legs started feeling weak when walking and i felt like i was back to square one again. they started feeling better again after my physical therapy session on 3/2 but that was around the time i thought about the possibility of TMS..
Eric)- lia- have you read sarnos book
theres aces keys here you can check to see if its tensive
but the diagnosis and the fear - wow
you gotta know youll heal- and stop the fear ok,
your with us now. we heal here and you will too
tell me about more about your exercises ok |
Edited by - eric watson on 03/06/2013 16:21:35 |
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gigalos
Netherlands
310 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2013 : 16:25:22
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Hi Lia, welcome to the forum.
We can't give you a final diagnosis, but your story does sound like TMS.
I recognize your knee problems from when I took up table tennis. I was scared to exercise when I started, scared to injure my knees because 15 years ago I had torqued my knee and since then I only did some walking now and then. Scared also for the social aspect of the club and I was a bit too eager to improve my playing skills. The first 4 months I had two days of painfull, clicking knees after a training and I was almost unable to climb the stairs. My physio told me to keep up the table tennis and he was right, the pain began to dissappear.
I hope you find what you need here, take care and good luck |
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lia
USA
14 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2013 : 18:19:46
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Originally posted by pspa123
Well nobody can say over the internet what your situation is, but as a cautionary tale I treated my right knee pain for quite a while as presumptive TMS before finally and very recently, when the pain got so acute I started to have doubts, getting an MRI which found acute synovitis (inflammation of the joint lining) as well as a large effusion (swelling, fluid, etc.) as well as some other stuff that seems less likely to be a real source of pain.
so how were you able to fix this problem? |
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lia
USA
14 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2013 : 18:22:56
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Originally posted by eric watson
Quote lia)- my knees were actually quite okay until my doctor told me i have tendonitis and to be careful because injuries will happen much easier. i got scared and regretted exercising. then my legs started feeling weak when walking and i felt like i was back to square one again. they started feeling better again after my physical therapy session on 3/2 but that was around the time i thought about the possibility of TMS..
Eric)- lia- have you read sarnos book
theres aces keys here you can check to see if its tensive
but the diagnosis and the fear - wow
you gotta know youll heal- and stop the fear ok,
your with us now. we heal here and you will too
tell me about more about your exercises ok
i haven't read sarno's books. i might've worked out improperly or used bad techniques when i danced but is two weeks really enough to cause injuries? two weeks isn't that long. i always felt that it was weird even the first day i experienced pain but i just stuck with the treatments. it's better but the symptoms linger |
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pspa123
672 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2013 : 19:17:19
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Originally posted by lia
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Originally posted by pspa123
Well nobody can say over the internet what your situation is, but as a cautionary tale I treated my right knee pain for quite a while as presumptive TMS before finally and very recently, when the pain got so acute I started to have doubts, getting an MRI which found acute synovitis (inflammation of the joint lining) as well as a large effusion (swelling, fluid, etc.) as well as some other stuff that seems less likely to be a real source of pain.
so how were you able to fix this problem?
I am still in the diagnostic process. We'll see how it goes.
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Ace1
USA
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Posted - 03/06/2013 : 20:45:03
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| Pspa, despite your findings on your MRI. I'll tell you it's TMS. You may not believe me or be ready for such a statement, but you'll see that no matter what they do to your knee it will never get better with conventional medicine. And if it does get better the pain or symptoms will just shft. As a doctor I have seem this countless times. In my keys to healing there is no challenging, so don't worry you won't injure yourself more. The problem is I understand your dilemma. You feel this real physical pain thats not leaving you and you see these real physical changes. It is so irresitable to not go with the physical mode of things. I also see your thought process of why would you believe me, I'm just some anonymous person on a forum. I really don't blame you if you disregard what I say here, but I will still try nonetheless because I really do care. I just had a patent have successful back surgery and a few months later he developed terminal cancer. I'm not trying to scare you but just sincerely trying to help you. Dr Sarno told me a story of a person with a facial pain, he was his family friend and he strongly advised him not to have a surgery to cut some nerve on his face. This guy did not listen to dr Sarno and he had the surgery and was relieved of his pain. A few months later he developed metastatic gastric cancer and soon after died. Why don't you try my keys to healing for just 3 months, but exactly like I have listed and don't look back. work on it like i said from the minute you wake up to the minute you go o sleep. Reassess at the 3 month time period and see if your any better and if you are, then continue. If not proceed with what your doing now. This was the challenge I gave Shawn on this board and I think he has improved and now he has hope. It is very difficult, I know personally,but thats ok. if your persistent enough and follow thes keys, you will overcome. EVERY word on thoses keys as been though out very carefully to try and eliminate mistakes. You will kind of have to learn from your own mistakes but at least you have a guidiine which I did not have when I went through this process. Good luck and feel free to ask me questions. |
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shawnsmith
Czech Republic
2048 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2013 : 06:41:58
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pspa123
Let's suppose for a moment that Ace's keys do not lead to recovery. Now I know that is a very negative way to begin a thought, but bear with me as I develop my line of reasoning.
I invite you to read through those keys a few times and reflect upon their meaning and implications and, in addition, do the suggested readings mentioned in the final key. If you do this I will 100% guarantee you will feel better about yourself and your current situation. In addition, people around you will also see the transformation and, sometimes, they will even comment on it.
I have been following the keys for about a month now and, with tears in her eyes, on Sunday my wife commented on the positive transformation that has taken place in my life as a result of implementing these keys. Has my symptoms diminished? Sometimes I feel good and sometimes it is still a challenge. But now I have keys to guide me along from moment to moment and not work myself up when the symptoms are more intense. Working yourself up will actually make your symptoms worse.
One has to be patient. Anything in life worth accomplishing takes time and effort, but people don't want to hear that, especially when they are pain. But when you understand what these keys are trying to teach, you will see the pain in a whole different light which in turn will bring about a personal transformation. Many of the keys are based upon thousands of years of mindfulness / spiritual practice teachings and have proven to help many over that time.
See yourself as healthy and whole, regardless of what your mind and body tells you. Learn to love and accept yourself. Learn to embrace the moment instead of living mentally in the past and the future. And finally, as Ace says in key 11, "Eliminate all negative talk and stop yourself from going down a negative line of thinking. This is 'negative' mind power." This can be accomplished through the use of positive affirmations which counter the affects of those negative thoughts which enter into your mind and generate stress and tension. One of mine is, "I am healthy and whole in my mind and my body."
Ace said in a previous post in response to another member, "I'll tell you that when I visited Dr Sarno I told him I was 80% better at that time, but then later he introduced me to one of his patients as being cured by his methods. In my mind I was not cured at that time. I also met with his psychologist Arlene Feinblatt and I mentioned to her that dr Sarno said nothing in someone's life has to be changed. She told me that this was wrong and that I would have to change in order to cure myself."
I will close which number 13 of Ace's keys, where he writes: "Recognize you are bringing your tension level set point down over time from a very high level and breaking habits which will take time. You are doing this treatment not for the moment but for the future. Until you get far along enough, you will not be able to stop the symptoms at will and that’s ok. Most people with severe or consistent symptoms will a lot of times need months to years for full resolution."
Finally, I invite you to read the following passage from Ekhart Tolle's book "A New Earth" and see if what he says resonates with you.
Best wishes,
Shawn
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IS THAT SO?
From Ekhart Tolle -- A New Earth
The Zen Master Hakuin lived in a town in Japan. He was held in high regard and many people came to him for spiritual teaching. Then it happened that the teenage daughter of his next door neighbor became pregnant. When being questioned by her angry and scolding parents as to the identity of the father, she finally told them that he was Hakuin, the Zen Master. In great anger the parents rushed over to Hakuin and told him with much shouting and accusing that their daughter had confessed that he was the father. All he replied was, “Is that so?”
News of the scandal spread throughout the town and beyond. The Master lost his reputation. This did not trouble him. Nobody came to see him anymore. He remained unmoved. When the child was born, the parents brought the baby to Hakuin. “You are the father, so you look after him.” The Master took loving care of the child. A year later, the mother remorsefully confessed to her parents that the real father of the child was the young man who worked at the butcher shop. In great distress they went to see Hakuin to
apologize and ask for forgiveness. “We are really sorry. We have come to take the baby back. Our daughter confessed that you are not the father.”
“Is that so?” is all he would may as he handed the baby over to them.
The Master responds to falsehood and truth, bad news and good news, in exactly the same way: “Is that so?” He allows the form of the moment, good or bad, to be as it is and so does not become a participant in human drama. To him there is only this moment, and this moment is as it is. Events are not personalized. He is nobody's victim. He is so completely at one with what happens that what happens has no power over him anymore. Only if you resist what happens are you at the mercy of what happens, and the world will determine your happiness and unhappiness.
The baby is looked after with loving care. Bad turns into good through the power of nonresistance. Always responding to what the present moment requires, he lets go of the baby when it is time to do so. Imagine briefly how the ego would have reacted during the various stages of the unfolding of these events.
THE EGO AND THE PRESENT MOMENT
The most important, the primordial relationship in your life is your relationship with the Now, or rather with whatever form the Now takes, that is to say, what is or what happens. If your relationship with the Now is dysfunctional, that dysfunction will be reflected in every relationship and every situation you encounter. The ego could be defined simply in this way: a dysfunctional relationship with the present moment. It is at this moment that you can decide what kind of relationship you want to have with the present moment.
Once you have reached a certain level of consciousness, (and if you are reading this, you almost certainly have), you are able to decide what kind of a relationship you want to have with the present moment. Do I want the present moment to be my friend or my enemy? The present moment is inseparable from life, so you are really deciding what kind of a relationship you want to have with life. Once you have decided you want the present moment to be your friend, it is up to you to make the first move: become friendly toward it, welcome it no matter in what disguise it comes, and soon you will see the results. Life becomes friendly toward you; people become helpful, circumstances cooperative. One decision changes your entire reality.But that one decision you have to make again and again and again – until it becomes natural to live in such a way.
The decision to make the present moment into your friend is the end of the ego. The ego can never be in alignment with the present moment, which is to say, aligned with life, since its very nature compels it to ignore, resist, or devalue the Now. Time is what the ego lives on. The stronger the ego, the more time takes over your life. Almost every thought you think is then concerned with past or future, and you sense of self depends on the past for your identity and on the future for its fulfillment. Fear, anxiety, expectation, regret, guilt, anger are the dysfunctions of the timebound state of consciousness.
There are three ways in which the ego will treat the present moment: as a means to and end, as an obstacle, or as an enemy. Let us look at them in turn, so that when this pattern operates in you, you can recognize it and – decide again.
To the ego, the present moment is, at best, only useful as a means to an end. It gets you to some future moment that is considered more important, even though the future never comes except as the present moment and is therefore never more than a thought in your head. In other words, you aren't ever fully here because you are always busy trying to get elsewhere. When this pattern becomes more pronounced, and this is very common, the present moment is regarded and treated as if it were an obstacle to be overcome. This is where impatience, frustration, and stress arise, and in our culture, it is many people's everyday reality, their normal state. Life, which is now, is seen as a “problem,” and you come to inhabit a world of problems that all need to be solved before you can be happy, fulfilled, or really start living – or so you think. The problem is: For every problem that is solved, another one pops up. As long as the present moment is seen as an obstacle, there can be no end to problems. “I'll be whatever you want me to be,” says Life or the Now. “I'll treat you the way you treat me. If you see me as a problem, I will be a problem to you. If you treat me as an obstacle, I will be an obstacle.”
At worst, and this is also very common, the present moment is treated as if it were an enemy. When you hate what you are doing, complain about your surroundings, curse things that are happening or have happened, or when your internal dialogue consists of shoulds and shouldn'ts, of blaming and accusing, when you are arguing with what is, arguing with that which is always already the case. you are making Life into an enemy and Life says, “War is what you want, and war is what you get.” External reality, which always reflects back to you your inner state, is then experienced as hostile. A vital question to ask yourself frequently is: What is my relationship with the present moment? Then become alert to find out the answer. Am I treating the Now as no more than a means to an end? Do I see it as an obstacle? Am I making it into an enemy? Since the present moment is all you ever have, since Life is inseparable from the Now, what the question really means is: What is my relationship with Life? This question is an excellent way of unmasking the ego in you and bringing you into the state of Presence. Although the question doesn't embody the absolute truth (Ultimately, I and the present moment are one), it is a useful pointer in the right direction. Ask yourself it often until you don't need it anymore. How do you go beyond a dysfunctional relationship with the present moment? The most important thing is to see it in yourself, in your thoughts and actions. In the moment of seeing, of noticing that your relationship with the Now is dysfunctional, you are present. The seeing is the arising Presence. The moment you see the dysfunction, it begins to dissolve. Some people laugh out loud when they see this. With the seeing comes the power of choice – the choice of saying yes to the Now, of making it into your friend.
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Sam908
70 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2013 : 06:48:59
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| I was advised by an orthopedist to have meniscus surgery to remedy severe knee pain. I chose, instead, to tough it out and after about a year, the pain disappeared. That was about six years ago. Shortly thereafter, I developed right side sciatica with pain and dropped foot; I consulted a neurosurgeon and we scheduled surgery. A few days before the planned surgery, ALL the symptoms disappeared, so I cancelled the surgery. Now the pain has relocated to my shoulders. It's all TMS, I'm sure, and I keep working on it. It would be nice, however, to get to the point where the symptoms don't simply jump around, but stop altogether. |
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shawnsmith
Czech Republic
2048 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2013 : 06:59:57
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Sam908,
As I was reading your post, I was once again reminded of this passage from Ekhart Tolle's "A New Earth."
GOOD AND BAD
From Ekhart Tolle (A New Earth)
At some point in their lives, most people become aware that there is
not only birth, growth, success, good health, pleasure, and winning, but also
loss, failure, sickness, old age, decay, pain and death. Conventionally these
are labeled “good” and “bad,” order and disorder. The “meaning” of people's
lives is usually associated with what they term the “good,” but the good is
continually threatened by collapse, breakdown, disorder; threatened by
meaninglessness and the “bad,” when explanations fail and life ceases to
make sense. Sooner or later, disorder will irrupt into everyone's life no
matter how many insurance policies he or she has. It may come in the form
of loss or accident, sickness, disability, old age, death. However, the
irruption of disorder into a person's life, and the resultant collapse of a
mentally defined meaning, can become the opening into a higher order.
“The wisdom of this world is folly with God,” says the Bible.
What is the wisdom of this world? The movement of thought, and meaning that is
defined exclusively by thought.
Thinking isolates a situation or event and calls it good or bad, as if it
had a separate existence. Through excessive reliance on thinking, reality
becomes fragmented. This fragmentation is an illusion, but it seems very real
while you are trapped in it. And yet the universe is an indivisible whole in
which all things are interconnected, in which nothing exists in isolation.
The deeper interconnectedness of all things and events implies that the
mental labels of “good” and bad” are ultimately illusory. They always imply
a limited perspective and so are true only relatively and temporarily. This is
illustrated in the story of a wise man who won an expensive car in a lottery.
His family and friends were very happy for him and came to celebrate. “Isn't
it great!” they said. “You are so lucky.” The man smiled and said “Maybe.”
For a few weeks he enjoyed driving the car. Then one day a drunken driver
crashed into his new car at an intersection and he ended up in the hospital,
with multiple injuries. His family and friends came to see him and said,
“That was really unfortunate. “ Again the man smiled and said, “Maybe.”
While he was still in the hospital, one night there was a landslide and his
house fell into the sea. Again his friends came the next day and said,
“Weren't you lucky to have been here in hospital.” Again he said, “Maybe.”
The wise man's “maybe” signifies a refusal to judge anything that
happens. Instead of judging what is, he accepts it and so enters into
conscious alignment with the higher order. He knows that often it is
impossible for the mind to understand what place or purpose a seemingly
random event has in the tapestry of the whole. But there are no random
events, nor are there events or things that exist by and for themselves, in
isolation. The atoms that make up your body were once forged inside stars,
and the causes of even the smallest event are virtually infinite and connected with the whole in incomprehensible ways. If you wanted to trace back the cause of any event, you would have to go back all the way to the beginning of creation. The cosmos is not chaotic. The very word cosmos means order. But this is not an order the human mind can ever comprehend, although it can sometimes glimpse it.
NOT MINDING WHAT HAPPENS
J. Krishnamurti, the great Indian philosopher and spiritual teacher,
spoke and traveled almost continuously all over the world for more than fifty
years attempting to convey through words which are content – that which is
beyond words, beyond content. At one of his talks in the later part of his life,
he surprised his audience by asking, “Do you want to know my secret?”
Everyone became very alert. Many people in the audience had been coming to listen to him for twenty or thirty years and still failed to grasp the essence
of his teaching. Finally, after all these years, the master would give them the
key to understanding. “This is my secret,” he said. “I don't mind what
happens.”
He did not elaborate, and so I suspect most of his audience were even
more perplexed than before. The implications of this simple statement,
however, are profound.
When I don't mind what happens, what does that imply? It implies
that internally I am in alignment with what happens. “What happens,” of
course, refers to the suchness of this moment, which always already is as it
is. It refers to content, the form that this moment – the only moment there
ever is – takes. To be in alignment with what is means to be in a relationship
of inner nonresistance with what happens. It mean not to label it mentally as
good or bad, but to let it be. Does this mean you can no longer take action to
bring abut change in your life? On the contrary. when the basis for your
actions is inner alignment with the present moment, your actions become
empowered by the intelligence of Life itself.
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eric watson
USA
601 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2013 : 09:12:13
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lia read sarnos book healing back pain - while doing that go get steve ozaniches book, the great pain deception
then make sure you always do the 28 keys to healing right here free for you to enjoy
by ace1, and lets not forget nicole sachs, the meaning of truth- she has a powerhouse of info
the first thing is the reminders from sarno on p. 82 on tennis toms post.
then write back in a week or two and talk to us. ok -bless you |
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Sam908
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Posted - 03/07/2013 : 11:08:49
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| Shawn, a bit off topic, but I had the privilege of attending two of Krishnamurti's NYC talks at Carnegie Hall, in 1982 and 1983. It was a very moving experience. |
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andy64tms
USA
589 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2013 : 12:37:13
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Hi Lia,
Pspa123 is still trying to rule out that his pain symptoms are not real or serious. This is something that we all have to do for each pain that we encounter. We have to understand this at a deep level of belief by any means and logic possible.
The basic guidelines and reasons of the how and why the brain manifests pain in different parts of your body are described in Dr. Sarno’s books. It’s essential to read one of them. “Healing Back Pain”, did it for me for basic understanding and as Eric says order “The Great Pain Deception”. It’s a terrific read - almost a thriller. Oh, and be prepared to read them with disbelief and denial at first.
Hi, pspa123
Good luck and welcome,
Andy
Past TMS Experience in 2000, with success.
Stopped Wiki Edu Program in lieu of own journalling
Charlie Horse on neck for 20 years, is almost gone.
Books:
Healing Back Pain
Unlearn your Pain
The Great Pain Deception |
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shawnsmith
Czech Republic
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Posted - 03/07/2013 : 13:19:56
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quote:
Originally posted by Sam908
Shawn, a bit off topic, but I had the privilege of attending two of Krishnamurti's NYC talks at Carnegie Hall, in 1982 and 1983. It was a very moving experience.
Thanks for the heads-up. I see Krishnamurti has many clips on youtube. These mindfulness / spiritual teachers essentially all say the same thing but use different words. I really do enjoy the works of Ekhart Tolle but I know others on this message board don't care much for him. But that's ok too. Whoever or whatever resonates with you and leads to healing is good.
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alix
USA
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Posted - 03/07/2013 : 14:02:09
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| Shawn, I very much like Tolle. I particularly recommend "Practicing the power of now" which manages to be a very practical and to the point "how-to" book but at the same is also very convincing and enlightening. |
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shawnsmith
Czech Republic
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alix
USA
434 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2013 : 15:53:25
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| Great find as always Shawn. |
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lia
USA
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Posted - 03/07/2013 : 16:29:43
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| i read that if pain is TMS, then you should start to work through the pain.. but what if it's so painful that you can't work through it? |
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shawnsmith
Czech Republic
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Posted - 03/07/2013 : 16:41:06
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In his keys to healing, Ace writes in key number 12, "Be active if possible independent of the symptoms (not for overcoming your illness, but to be comfortable with your body) and do things you were afraid to do gradually, not to challenge, but just to do them. (I.e. if I play soccer and there is back pain, I will not think of using my back more or strain with it more to get it "used" to activity. I would just play soccer, and if in pain, just accept it and use affirmations if necessary). As you get into the game, you'll probably forget about it. This activity can be slowly and gradually increased as not to increase the strain. You want to coerce you body back to normality."
See all keys here:
http://tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7765&whichpage=1
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“The snow falls, each flake in its appropriate place.” |
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lia
USA
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Posted - 03/08/2013 : 19:02:51
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Originally posted by eric watson
lia read sarnos book healing back pain - while doing that go get steve ozaniches book, the great pain deception
then make sure you always do the 28 keys to healing right here free for you to enjoy
by ace1, and lets not forget nicole sachs, the meaning of truth- she has a powerhouse of info
the first thing is the reminders from sarno on p. 82 on tennis toms post.
then write back in a week or two and talk to us. ok -bless you
i will read those books. the problem right now is deciding whether the pain is really TMS or not. i paid for my physical therapy sessions already so i can't stop all physical treatments. and i don't want to stop without knowing for sure. and that's why i posted here, i wanted some of your opinions. there's no use mentioning this to my doctor because i feel like he would just dismiss it.
is it possible for pain to get better by just acknowledging the fact that the cause might be TMS? |
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patellar tendonitis
