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All1Spirit
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 Posted - 02/13/2013 : 04:30:21
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Yesterday I had a lot of phone calls on a large project I am working on – it is an exciting project and I was stoked and also keyed up most of the day.
I kind of crashed in the afternoon as I bunt out a bit. Then last night all hell hit me, pain I have never experienced in all these past 6 years dealing with this......plus lots of new symptoms. I am up at 3:00 am with zero sleep.
Will even good stress cause more symptoms. This is concerning as I have been through death of family members in recent years and never had a reaction like this...and while keyed up I was enjoying the energy?
"Around and Around the Circle We Go....
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balto
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Posted - 02/13/2013 : 04:55:25
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I think stress, good or bad, can always make changes to our body. I remember when I asked my wife to marry me and she said yes, I had a spasm attack on my back and couldn't sleep for 3 days.
If I win the Power Ball tomorrow, I think I'm going to have a heart attack.
A friend of mine fainted and fell down while walking up stage to receive some kind of award at her work place.
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Cath
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Posted - 02/13/2013 : 05:41:50
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I also have this kind of reaction to good stress. It's seems to be any sort of emotional charge, but we can't go around in a state of zen-like tranquility all our lives. I think we have to pay attention to Ace's keys, and try to moderate the strain.
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shawnsmith
Czech Republic
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Posted - 02/13/2013 : 07:42:15
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| Ace Key To Healing #7. It is also important to note that situations that you have not deconditioned yourself to will produce symptoms in you that make you feel that you have made no progress even if you’re close to being cured. Don't let this disway you as you only need to decondition yourself to these situations as well. |
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RageSootheRatio
Canada
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Posted - 02/13/2013 : 07:46:34
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Even eustress is stress !!
All1Sprit, that has been my experience also, that even "good stress" can be activating ... to the point of activating / triggering a bad headache. This actually gives more credence to Ace1's "strain" theory for MBS, as opposed to the "rage" theory. At any rate, excitement is not "soothing" (ie calming) if we think of things from a rage/soothe standpoint.
Ace1 himself discussed this re his experience at Disney on your thread about "fearing the symptoms":
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8120
This also reminds me of Key # 26 in Ace1's Keys to Healing:
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26. If your unsure if something you are doing is helping your recovery or not is to ask the following question - Is this helping me to calm my overly sensitized nervous system from reacting to the events in my day?
(for any new people looking for the whole list of Ace1's Keys to Healing, here's the link:
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7765
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 02/13/2013 : 08:12:35
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Originally posted by All1Spirit
Will even good stress cause more symptoms.
ABSOLUTELY YES! With all due respect Doctor, it's a fundamental of TMS, that any event, that threatens to disrupt one's homeostasis--seemingly "good" or "bad"--can trigger TMS symptoms as a DEFENSE MECHANISM.
I strongly suggest you crawl up with one of Dr. Sarno's early books to gain a better understanding of the fundamentals of TMS. The gremlin has a way of blinding us to the obvious answers and TMS information we need the most:
"Pity me that the heart is slow to learn
What the swift mind beholds at every turn."
Edna St. Vincent Millay, Page 182, "THE DIVIDED MIND"
Fear of aging is most likely a background theme for you, (as for most everyone on the planet). Are you familiar with the Rahe-Holmes list of life stressing situations? It's in my sig below that I will activate. There's also some other fundamental TMS info down there that will be helpful for you to better understand TMS workings.
G'luck!
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DR. SARNO'S 12 DAILY REMINDERS:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0dKBFwGR0g
TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale
Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." Jiddu Krishnamurti
"Pain is inevitable; suffering is optional." Author Unknown
"Happy People Are Happy Putters." Frank Nobilo, Golf Analyst
"Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint." Mark Twain and Balto
"The hot-dog is the noblest of dogs; it feeds the hand that bites it." Dr. Laurence Johnston Peter
"...the human emotional system was not designed to endure the mental rigors of a tennis match." Dr. Allen Fox
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"If it ends with "itis" or "algia" or "syndrome" and doctors can't figure out what causes it, then it might be TMS." Dave the Mod =================================================
TMS PRACTITIONERS:
John Sarno, MD
400 E 34th St, New York, NY 10016
(212) 263-6035
Here's the TMS practitioners list from the TMS Help Forum:
http://www.tmshelp.com/links.htm
Here's a list of TMS practitioners from the TMS Wiki:
http://tmswiki.org/ppd/Find_a_TMS_Doctor_or_Therapist
Here's a map of TMS practitioners from the old Tarpit Yoga site, (click on the map by state for listings).:
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KristenG
USA
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Posted - 02/13/2013 : 13:54:28
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I don't know about pain, but when I was having anxiety I used to ask this question a lot. Sometimes when I would do something I enjoyed or looked forward to I would feel anxious. What I finally realized was that the feelings that I would get when I would get anxious were very similar to feelings of excitement. The difference was that I was conditioned to think that it was something bad. It's all about your perspective.
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bryan3000
USA
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Posted - 02/13/2013 : 16:18:02
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Excitement is excitement. Of course, the negative brand hits harder because of the chemistry it produces. (And usually lasts longer.)
I've come to realize that even healthy, enjoyable intimacy can set me back physically a bit for a day or so after if too often.
All1Spirit,
Have you committed to reducing stress, resting and putting desensitizing your body as the priority in your life?
You sound a lot like me in that you're trying to do highway construction with the highway still open. I have finally come to understand that
I have to shut it down. I can't quit my job, but I've gotten to the point where I'm willing to put recovery #1.
That means multiple meditations and relaxations per day, strict sleep schedules and going after all forms of stress in my life and
trying to eliminate them.
It's funny because I got so caught up in the cognitive work, I missed the other half of anxiety/TMS for many of us... which is that we are
having what they used to call a nervous breakdown.
This is why sometimes "resuming all normal activities" can be counterproductive. However, I do believe having the ATTITUDE that you can
do anything you want is great. There's a big difference in being afraid to work out heavy, and knowing (as I do) that I'll have to wait a while for
that until my body has resumed normalcy.
Anyway, don't discount the physical side of anxiety/TMS. Being kind to your body and allowing it rest to heal, particularly your nervous system is
a big part of recovery. I didn't make significant progress until someone beat this into my head.
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plum
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/13/2013 : 17:18:49
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Originally posted by bryan3000
Excitement is excitement. Of course, the negative brand hits harder because of the chemistry it produces. (And usually lasts longer.)
I've come to realize that even healthy, enjoyable intimacy can set me back physically a bit for a day or so after if too often.
All1Spirit,
Have you committed to reducing stress, resting and putting desensitizing your body as the priority in your life?
You sound a lot like me in that you're trying to do highway construction with the highway still open. I have finally come to understand that
I have to shut it down. I can't quit my job, but I've gotten to the point where I'm willing to put recovery #1.
That means multiple meditations and relaxations per day, strict sleep schedules and going after all forms of stress in my life and
trying to eliminate them.
It's funny because I got so caught up in the cognitive work, I missed the other half of anxiety/TMS for many of us... which is that we are
having what they used to call a nervous breakdown.
This is why sometimes "resuming all normal activities" can be counterproductive. However, I do believe having the ATTITUDE that you can
do anything you want is great. There's a big difference in being afraid to work out heavy, and knowing (as I do) that I'll have to wait a while for
that until my body has resumed normalcy.
Anyway, don't discount the physical side of anxiety/TMS. Being kind to your body and allowing it rest to heal, particularly your nervous system is
a big part of recovery. I didn't make significant progress until someone beat this into my head.
Sounds like the Hillbilly Rock.
Sometimes we need to repair to the fortress and sometimes we need to repair the fortress. Wisdom is knowing the difference. Tending to the flanks is good sense not nonsense. Balance excitement with rest and let the dull ones do the lamenting. Sometimes one has to go the other way.
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