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jennypeanut
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 Posted - 01/18/2013 : 13:51:44
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Okay so I have now read all the posts because this has truly scared me as a place that I should perhaps cease visiting/seeking advice.
Personally, after reading Steve O's book, which he did NOT tell me about when he responded to my very first post, but that I had to look for myself, I've found that forgiveness is an essential part of the TMS healing process. I don't think forgiveness is always retroactive. I think forgiveness is part of love. And a huge part of loving others is offering them the benefit of the doubt. Nicole was given little benefit of the doubt here. And may I venture to also say extremely little love. Maybe I'm going on an emotional treasure hunt with this, but after reading all of this (especially the personal attacks) it seems to me that the "right to express opinions" has won out over decency to fellow human beings. Even worse, fellow human beings who share in similar suffering and come here for help.
I was in another forum where you could be kicked out for insulting others or personally attacking people. I'm not saying that should happen but there is no accountability to this.
I think ACE impressed me because he disagreed with the initial posting yet he wasn't nasty. Why can't it be like that?
Nicole, you are really being judged by your book's cover here. Which is kind of funny I guess since you literally sort of are as well. Anyway, just some follow up thoughts here since I hadn't fully read everything when I posted above. |
Edited by - jennypeanut on 01/18/2013 13:53:25 |
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shawnsmith
Czech Republic
2048 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2013 : 13:57:50
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Hi jennypeanut,
I would not worry too much about these occasional flare-ups which take place on this message board. The message board is overall very helpful even when there is strongly held opinions expressed at times. Most people on the board are hurting one way or another and just need the opportunity to vent. Try to overlook people's short-comings or occasional angry outbursts and see the big picture.
Warm regards,
Shawn |
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Ace1
USA
1040 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2013 : 14:00:07
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jennypeanut
103 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2013 : 14:01:24
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Shawn, thanks.
I have read in Steve O's book how TMSers can't get enough info and we obsess over books, info, etc. But it seems to me that I have the "addict" personality and this is why. If i don't obsess over healing or (hopefully more in the future) helping others, then I go back to obsessing over negative things like health or relationships. So in that regard isn't it better to obsess over TMS healing and help?
I'm sure there is a higher way to think and re-train your brain, but so far I find that positive obsessions (like in AA - get a hobby to obsess over) replace the negative obsessions. If someone has found the magic key to turn the obsessive thinking switch to OFF, gladly throw it my way.
And the reason i bring this up is whats wrong with reading lots of TMS books? |
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shawnsmith
Czech Republic
2048 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2013 : 14:03:05
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Originally posted by Ace1
I see that your progressing very nicely shawn
If I told you I have experienced a 65% reduction in pain in two weeks as a result of your keys to healing you would not believe me, so I won't tell you. |
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jennypeanut
103 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2013 : 14:04:14
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And that last post from me makes little sense in the context of this post so let me clarify: In this long line of ranting posts, people claim we don't need more TMS books. I don't see the problem with this. Also - and maybe this is another post - but I don't see what's wrong with taking that perfectionist nature and using it differently - in a positive way.
That is all... |
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shawnsmith
Czech Republic
2048 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2013 : 14:07:13
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Hi jennypeanut
I do highly recommend that you go back and re-read the last section of SteveO's book (chapters 27-40) and this time do so really carefully, reflecting deeply and what he is saying. You do not need any more information than what you already have. You merely need to act upon the knowledge you possess. Just be patient and don't expect immediate results. |
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jennypeanut
103 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2013 : 14:09:25
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| Thanks Shawn. Also can you share with me what you are talking about that ACE wrote? I've been working at this for months now. Obviously still miles to go. |
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shawnsmith
Czech Republic
2048 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2013 : 14:10:53
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Originally posted by jennypeanut
And that last post from me makes little sense in the context of this post so let me clarify: In this long line of ranting posts, people claim we don't need more TMS books. I don't see the problem with this. Also - and maybe this is another post - but I don't see what's wrong with taking that perfectionist nature and using it differently - in a positive way.
That is all...
Sure, gaining more knowledge is always a good thing, but holding the belief that healing is just around the corner if you just read that next book or article is not the answer. For the purpose of getting better, all the information you need about TMS is now in your possession and anything you further learn will merely be of an academic benefit. |
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shawnsmith
Czech Republic
2048 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2013 : 14:12:55
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Originally posted by jennypeanut
Thanks Shawn. Also can you share with me what you are talking about that ACE wrote? I've been working at this for months now. Obviously still miles to go.
Ace1, who is a physician, wrote this:
http://tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7765&whichpage=1
Read and follow it every day for a month. You have centimeters to go, not miles. You just can't see it yet. But you will. |
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susan828
USA
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Posted - 01/18/2013 : 14:38:50
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| Jenny, it was the context and the previous sentence about Sarno's alumni that made it sound as if Nicole was mentioned in these posts. I asked her to show me where they are so I can see her prior posts. She had the chance to clarify and did not so until she does, it still isn't clear to me. You may be right but it would be good if someone answers a question instead of ignoring it. |
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chickenbone
Panama
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Posted - 01/18/2013 : 15:44:35
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| I like your thoughts, Shawnsmith and Jennypeanut. Just a quick comment. I don't think the point that the naysayers were making was that we have too many TMS books or that newcomers are not welcome. It is rather that we are intelligent people who expect honest and direct answers from someone who professes to be a professional trying to help us. Experts on this forum need to be held to a high standard, because if not, the forun can lose credibility. They must earn our respect, not demand it. |
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pspa123
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Posted - 01/18/2013 : 16:33:29
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Originally posted by susan828
Jenny, it was the context and the previous sentence about Sarno's alumni that made it sound as if Nicole was mentioned in these posts. I asked her to show me where they are so I can see her prior posts. She had the chance to clarify and did not so until she does, it still isn't clear to me. You may be right but it would be good if someone answers a question instead of ignoring it.
Susan I read it the same way as you, in fact I am not sure how "referenced" in that context can mean anything else but referred to, but I guess it is what it is and we should move on. |
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