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Colleen
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 Posted - 02/27/2005 : 17:09:47
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At the Yoga and Healing Center where I have started to go for yoga/meditation class and shiatsu, someone reccommened homeopathic medicine for help with nerve pain while I continue reading and learning about TMS. Has anyone given that a try for pain?
Colleen
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Dave
USA
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Posted - 02/27/2005 : 19:07:44
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| Homeopathic medicine is contradictory to TMS theory. If you do anything to treat the physical symptoms, it interferes with your progress. |
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Baseball65
USA
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Posted - 02/27/2005 : 19:50:09
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Hi Colleen
Ditto to what Dave said.The only time Sarno says to treat the symptom is during an acute attack,for which he says not much can be done other than to wait it out,don't expect it to last long,and in that case he says he prescribes strong analgesics.
If you are in good enough shape to do yoga,you're probably not having an acute attack.
I've posted about this before,but I'll reiterate a related topic.A lot of well meaning and friendly people will nod their head in agreement with TMS theory (Chiro's,Homeopath's,PT's etc.) but then go ahead and prescribe modalities or herbs or whatever.
These people,although well meaning,don't usually understand TMS and all it's components.Any recovery under Physical circumstances might produce a placebo cure which is not what we want.Same for herbal supplements.
I don't know too much about Yoga,but if one's brain is attaching the physical activity to the recovery that would fall under the same heading.If one is using it as a means to get in touch with repressed anger and emotion, or for basic and overall good health that is another thing.
I began weight lifting right after reading the book....not to get better,but because I had always lifted weights for strength BEFORE I came down with acute TMS.It's all in the value and what it means to you in your brain.In fact,I specifically avoided all the excercises I had learned in PT,as I didn't want my brain to make a link between weight lifting and recovery.
It obviously did NOT because I'm in....uhhhh...winter shape right now(packin' too much potato chips) and I'm as TMS free as I have ever been.
Be well
peace
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Colleen
USA
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Posted - 02/28/2005 : 06:51:44
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Thank You for your responses. The yoga that I do is do is much in the form of meditation and different simple stretches , mostly for women's health....and for the anxiety issues I have had for years and now the grief over all that has happened in the past year. I see the same Instructor for shiatsu which is an amazing process. Eastern Medicine is much more into the mind/body than Western medicine.
I am by nature "anti-medicine" but I do understand it is necessary at different times in our lives for a variety of reasons. As you are probably well aware, a big medicine with Pain Specialist, especially for nerve pain, is giving anti-depressants. They did write me a prescription for one such new drug that also worked on nerve pain, but my Insurance didn't cover it and I wasn't able to cover $125.00 per prescription. It is suppose to raise the serotonin level in your brain, which is suppose to help with the pain level. Physical exercise, if you are able, will also raise that level as will certain foods, such as fish.
I have had some fairly bad attacks of this nerve pain/neuropathy and that is why I asked about the homeopathic meds. The owner of the yoga center suffered for years with nerve pain in her neck and shoulder and the homeopathics worked for her and so she simply suggested it to me.
Colleen
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Dave
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Posted - 02/28/2005 : 08:09:37
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It's important to learn how to treat the symptoms as a benign signal that you need to address your emotional state.
Taking a pain killer now and then to treat severe attacks is certainly reasonable (even Dr. Sarno prescribes pain killers) but focusing too much on trying to treat the symptoms is the wrong path. |
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tennis tom
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Posted - 02/28/2005 : 09:07:01
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Originally posted by Colleen
At the Yoga and Healing Center where I have started to go for yoga/meditation class and shiatsu, someone reccommened homeopathic medicine for help with nerve pain while I continue reading and learning about TMS. Has anyone given that a try for pain?
Colleen
Colleen H. Mazzola
I tried some mild anti-depressants several years ago for a few months, after I read that approx. 25% doasges of them, were found helpful in treating backpain. It makes sense if TMS is caused by repressed rage/tension, and the anti-depressnts artificially reduce the tension, the patient feels better (for at least a while). I quit the "experiment" because I don't like using anything like that. It also made me feel a little "distanced" from life, like an observer, therefore, not as tuned in "emotionally", which you need to do the TMS "work". My theory is IF it's TMS you've got, you may get some relief but if you don't treat the emotional factors that create the repressed rage, it will continue to build up until it bubbles to the surface in the form of psychogenic TMS physcial pain.
I tried homeopathy a few years back. Went to a lady who asked me a long list of lifestyle questions, might have even hooked me up to a computer developed by some Hungarian doctor. Prescribed some tiny sugar pills from Whole Food Market for several months. Didn't notice any improvement, not even placebo. That's just my experience, your's may be different (but I doubt it).
For more on Homeopathy see this article "Homeopathy; The Ultimate Fake": http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/homeo.html |
Edited by - tennis tom on 02/28/2005 09:36:11 |
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Laura
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Posted - 02/28/2005 : 09:16:03
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Colleen,
I am in agreement with Dave and Baseball. Focus on the grief and how you are FEELING and the emotions that trigger the pain. Until I started doing that, I could have taken all the homeopathics and herbs under the sun and I'm certain they wouldn't have helped me. Here's an example. I was supposed to go to an event this past weekend and I've known about it for a long time. I didn't want to go. I had a huge fight with the person hosting the event (aka my "best" friend). I sent the RSVP and said we would not attend. I stressed myself out about this thing for so long that eventually it felt like I burned a whole in my stomach, I swear. It hurt so much I went to the gastroenterologist out of sheer desperation. He prescribed two very potent medications, both loaded with all sorts of nasty side effects. He told me he thought I simply had "a nervous stomach" and that I would be okay. I took neither of the medications. Instead, I thought long and hard about what was bothering me. About two days before the event I was crying and really feeling pain in my stomach. I talked to my family about it and felt so much better. I thought I was home free. Then, the day of the event (Saturday) came. My stomach was really acting up, all day. In the evening at the party, it felt like someone kicked me between my ribs, right where my stomach is. I fought through it anyway. I even had a glass of wine and told myself "Dammit, I'm going to enjoy this." Guess what? I did. I had a great time. I talked to friends and danced and had a blast! Yesterday, no more stomach pain. This morning, no more stomach pain. I'm feeling good.
Now, I'm not equating your grief and your loss to my situation, believe me. I'm just saying the mind is such a powerful thing and if you sit down and really think about what's happened and what's bothering you it's going to help you more than anything you can buy off a shelf. Get a journal and write down your thoughts. Or, type them here on this forum. Just do the work and tell yourself "There is NOTHING physically wrong with me."
I've had vertigo for almost three years. It didn't even begin to go away until I started doing this work. Now, there are days when I don't get it AT ALL! Sometimes, my stomach hurts so much I don't get dizzy. I KNOW it's all TMS - I have convinced my brain, finally, and it believes it.
Listen to Dr. Sarno or Dr. Schechter's tapes. Read and re-read one of the books. Journal. Think physical. And, keep doing your yoga cuz it is wonderful for your mind and body. But save your money on the other stuff. Good luck, Colleen!
Laura
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Colleen
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Posted - 02/28/2005 : 12:34:12
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I was sitting in Church this morning and I was thinking about what many of you have said to me on this forum. I have been focusing a lot on my symptoms and and on my grief, but separately.....I suddenly saw what you are saying to me.
This TMS is new to me and I am learning still. I am trying to commit myself to this....have Dr.Sarno's book and am reading and reading and I just got Dr. Schechter's CD's.....and I have always been one to journal. I do not really have anyone to talk to about this, so I am glad this forum is here!
And Laura, I do plan to continue both the women's yoga and the shiatsu. Thanks!
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holly
USA
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Posted - 02/28/2005 : 12:38:18
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| colleen see my reply to you regarding the burning feet post. |
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