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tennis tom

USA
4749 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2013 :  20:54:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Forget the acupuncture, big waste of money. I did too many to count, it was only good for brief time-outs for some relaxation. Legitimate studies have disproven it, it's a placebo, voo-doo and your literally the voo-doo doll. If you need some relaxation get massages, at least you get some bang for your buck. Stretch if you feel like it but not with the mindset that it will cure TMS issues.

G'luck!
tt

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TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
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Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
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"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." Jiddu Krishnamurti

"Pain is inevitable; suffering is optional." Author Unknown

"Happy People Are Happy Putters." Frank Nobilo, Golf Analyst

"Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint." Mark Twain and Balto

"The hot-dog is the noblest of dogs; it feeds the hand that bites it." Dr. Laurence Johnston Peter

"...the human emotional system was not designed to endure the mental rigors of a tennis match." Dr. Allen Fox
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"If it ends with "itis" or "algia" or "syndrome" and doctors can't figure out what causes it, then it might be TMS." Dave the Mod =================================================

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Here's a list of TMS practitioners from the TMS Wiki:
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Here's a map of TMS practitioners from the old Tarpit Yoga site, (click on the map by state for listings).:
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art

1903 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2013 :  21:53:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ace1

Well sdiddy it is that impatience that is the main cause of your tms with everything else compounded on top of that. I don't think one month will be enough for you to make much progress. The ones that get better fast usually are not the impatient, always in a rush type of person. Good luck to you.



I second this excellent comment. Passive, preferably joyful acceptance of all contingencies is the best approach. If you can't manage joyful, and I appreciate that's a tall order for a newcomer, you must at least stop worrying...
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pspa123

672 Posts

Posted - 04/14/2013 :  08:03:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sure wish i had all the money i spent on acupuncture back. Its allure, 5000 years of wisdom and all that, is powerful. But there are hundreds of modalities with seductive sales pitches out there ready to take your money and time. It takes a certain degree of confidence to call BS on them. And people in pain generally lack that confidence.

Edited by - pspa123 on 04/14/2013 08:08:37
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sdiddy

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Posted - 04/14/2013 :  12:38:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yes i am doing mental work like journaling and relaxation and stress relief. thanks for the advice i will try my best here. you guys are really helpful.
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sdiddy

46 Posts

Posted - 04/18/2013 :  18:57:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
curious...when i did the cortisone shot the pain went away for 2 months. if this is tms, why did that happen? just curious about the science here.

UPDATE: I am wondering because its been 2 weeks since i started focusing on tms therapy but the pain has actually gotten worse, throbbing and shooting down my arm now in addition to the movement-specific pains. it used to be that it only hurt when i moved it a certain way. now it hurts all the time. the only thing im doing different is no stretching anymore and focusing on tms, but with my back i had relief from pain almost immediately when i realized i had tms years ago. Is this normal for the pain to worsen like this? Any advice? Thank you.

Edited by - sdiddy on 04/28/2013 11:41:59
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tennis tom

USA
4749 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2013 :  18:49:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If it's TMS, it will last as long as the emotional stressors continue, that are invoking the TMS symptom, for a protective psychosomatic defense mechanism. I've had arm/shoulder symptoms, once years ago before knowing of TMS, in the right arm and more recently in the left arm. I woke up this morning and it occurred to me, that my arm didn't hurt. It just slowly fades away, as either the TMS tension lessens--or another symptom substitutes, to take its place as a distraction.

==================================================

DR. SARNO'S 12 DAILY REMINDERS:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0dKBFwGR0g

TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale

Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605

==================================================

"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." Jiddu Krishnamurti

"Pain is inevitable; suffering is optional." Author Unknown

"Happy People Are Happy Putters." Frank Nobilo, Golf Analyst

"Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint." Mark Twain and Balto

"The hot-dog is the noblest of dogs; it feeds the hand that bites it." Dr. Laurence Johnston Peter

"...the human emotional system was not designed to endure the mental rigors of a tennis match." Dr. Allen Fox
======================================================

"If it ends with "itis" or "algia" or "syndrome" and doctors can't figure out what causes it, then it might be TMS." Dave the Mod =================================================

TMS PRACTITIONERS:
John Sarno, MD
400 E 34th St, New York, NY 10016
(212) 263-6035


Here's the TMS practitioners list from the TMS Help Forum:
http://www.tmshelp.com/links.htm

Here's a list of TMS practitioners from the TMS Wiki:
http://tmswiki.org/ppd/Find_a_TMS_Doctor_or_Therapist


Here's a map of TMS practitioners from the old Tarpit Yoga site, (click on the map by state for listings).:
http://www.tarpityoga.com/2007_08_01_archive.html

Edited by - tennis tom on 04/28/2013 18:54:37
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sdiddy

46 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2013 :  15:42:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
UPDATE: its been about 3 weeks since i started TMS "therapy". The first 2 weeks were pretty brutal...a LOT more pain than normal, especially new and strange pains like soreness down my arm, shooting and throbbing pains. Before it was just the very specific sharp pain with specific movements. After about the first two weeks though, a lot of the shooting and throbbing has been mitigated, but I am still having sharp pains in the deep rotator cuff region (side of the shoulder). If i touch and push in there and also the back of the shoulder, its incredibly tender and painful, yet also provides relief if I massage it. Should I stop touching there? My fear is that the deep rotator pain is a tear, an actual tear that originally happened when i played basketball, healed, and then re-tore when i started lifting weights and playing basketball again. And the surrounding pain like soreness, shooting, etc is the TMS. My fear is the underlying issue is not TMS, BUT that being said I am committed to TMS and seeing this through. Any advice is appreciated from you guys, since I have no one else to help me through it.
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Ace1

USA
1040 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2013 :  18:41:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Don't touch it ! Treat it as normal as you can.
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sdiddy

46 Posts

Posted - 06/03/2013 :  11:51:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


UPDATE from OP: Well I cant believe how time flies. It has now been about 7 weeks since I committed to TMS therapy for my shoulder. I dont touch it anymore, and try my best not to live in fear and focus on it. I have seen quite a bit of general pain relief during the day, as in it doesnt throb and hurt during the waking hours of the day like it used to.

However, it still does hurt during some specific movement, and hurts MUCH more at nighttime and when I first wake up. Any ideas as to why?

I casually shot some baskets recently, something i havent done in along time, without any pain, which was promising. But when I tried to do a golf swing it hurt during the movement.

I honestly cant believe its been more than a year now with this affliction. I just want it done....I want to play sports again....actually, i NEED to play sports again. At what point do I have the courage to say, now "I KNOW for sure this is TMS and not a tear" and go ahead and play again? I am still scared....
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