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racingspoon

United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/10/2012 :  12:38:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.positivehealth.com/article/bodywork/iliopsoas-the-flee-fight-muscle-for-survival

I have recently started yoga and the instructor asked me if I had any physical issues. I explained I had been diagnosed with a twisted pelvis (which he believes is a real structural diagnosis)and that regardless of that I wanted to build up some core strength. He metioned something about the iliopsoas muscles and that these often played a part with a twisted pelvis and that yoga would be benficial for these.

Anyway, regardless of the yoga instructors opinions I looked into these muscles and found an article which I have linked to above. I know this doesn't specifically allude to TMS but it does seem to be relating to a somatic theory. I'm just wondering if somebody with a bit more TMS knowledge base can place this into context for me.

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Goodney

USA
76 Posts

Posted - 05/10/2012 :  13:51:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Very interesting! A number of years ago I suffered for months with what eventually came to be diagnosed as an iliopsoas strain. It came on shortly after I recovered from a nasty bout of back spasms. Over the years, the iliopsoas has occasionally flared up, usually when I am under great stress. Looking back on it now, it clearly was TMS.
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RageSootheRatio

Canada
430 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2012 :  08:23:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi racingspoon,

I just have a minute now, but there is a long thread I contributed to in the past on this board about Berceli (his work was referenced in that article you posted a link to) which might interest you:

http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5666

RSR
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SteveO

USA
272 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2012 :  19:12:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Racingspoon, thanks for the explanation of what a racingspoon is. Very interesting.

Tilted pelvises (pelvi?) don't cause pain. It took me some time to fully get it, but Dr. Sopher was relentless in letting me know that I was still focusing on my body too much to heal.

I was told by an MD that my iliopsoas-set was too short and that it was pulling on my pelvis and twisting it. As I look back I see how insane that all was, but we learn in small pieces.

I then went to a PT who confirmed it by measuring the iliopsoas-set on one side thereby proving that my pain was from a tilted pelvis.

I then hired one of the best physical therapists in the world we also said the iliopsoas-set was too short. At that point my pain increased to unbearable levels and I scheduled for surgery.

Thankfully Dr. Sopher kept with me and got me to stop thinking about my body as being "part of the TMS." You can't think you have a body problem and heal.

This is from my own book:
"Don’t be fooled by people telling you that you need to stand a certain way, or lift a certain way, or sit a certain way. I was told that my iliopsoas muscle set was too short on one side and that this was causing my pain. These are fallacious—insidious—misguidances that only propagate and perpetuate pain." Page 208.

This is from Healing Back Pain:
"As long as he is in any way preoccupied with what his body is doing, the pain will continue." Page 83.

This is from Dr. Sarno's CDM radio interview:
"You have to get completely out of the physical ballpark and completely into the psychological ballpark. You cannot have one foot in the physical park and one foot in the psychological park. You must have both feet in the psychological ballpark."

And of course the post below from Goodney:
"Over the years, the iliopsoas has occasionally flared up, usually when I am under great stress. Looking back on it now, it clearly was TMS."

It takes 100% full belief that the body is ok or full healing can't take place. If some healing occurs then it is the result of a placebo effect. True healing comes from forgetting about how the body is aligned ...or in anything else.

Good post. Good luck. Hi Goodney.

SO
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Goodney

USA
76 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2012 :  21:43:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Steve. Thank you for all of your help and support.
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