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Wavy Soul
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 Posted - 03/13/2012 : 23:52:29
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Yeah, breathe in, breathe out. Ah! Thanks Dave, for your service. Thanks Steve, for your service.
Love is the answer, whatever the question |
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Stryder
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Posted - 03/14/2012 : 17:51:26
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| Thank everyone for their service, and Dave for eight years of forum. -Stryder |
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 03/15/2012 : 15:36:40
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Originally posted by Ace1
Hey Tom
I told you what the ultimate source said about hip pain- dr sarno. Steve o should not have had more of a confidence booster to you than the original master. Good luck on continued recovery
Hi Ace,
Sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you but I wanted to be somewhat "scientific" about it and was researching my Sarno's with no luck on a mention he made on hip replacement. I then googled and came up with this old thread from here. The TMSHelp Forum has some pretty good SEO on the internet. Here are two citations regarding hip replacement surgery, one from Dr. Marc Sopher and one from the Good (soon to retire) Doctor. My hip has also been DX'ed by two Dr. Sarno trained TMS physicians here on the left coast, Dr. Bruce Eisenberg in Santa Cruz and Dr. David Schechter in Beverly Hills. They both said it was not TMS but "significant arthritis", "get a hip replacement". No offense but I've played too much tennis with doctor's to believe all their calls. That's why, I got some hope from SteveO's post here saying it could still be TMS and he would contact Dr. Sopher for me.
For now I'm sticking with the hip G-d gave me until hell freezes over, or arthroscopic surgery techniques improve to where it's like going to the dentist, or necrosis collapses my hip and I go into shock and they do it to me without my permission. Now that Dr. Sarno is retiring, I won't have to think about driving 'cross country to have him DX me, TMS yay or nay, not that he would see me since I'm not from the Tri-states.
By the way, since you're an oncologist, what do you think of Dr. Bernie Siegel's books on cancer? They did me a lot of good when my mother died after contracting kidney cancer Unfortuantely she wasn't able to benefit from it. It wasn't the cancer that killed her, it was the complications of the surgery when or vena cava or something in that vicinity, ruptured and all the king's men couldn't put her back together again.
Here's the quotes I was talking about regarding TMS and hip replacements generously researced by a forum member named Weatherman:
"Hello Michele and TT:
As I mentioned earlier both Sarno and Sopher say hip replacement can be legit, here are the passages:
From Sopher's "To Be or Not To Be Pain Free" - page 106 - "I'd like to start by stating that total hip replacement can be a miraculous surgery." He then cautions that x-rays "often" reveal degenerative changes that are not the cause of hip pain. By no means does he say hip replacement is NEVER necessary.
Similarly, Sarno in "Healing Back Pain" - page 113 - starts out discussing osteoarthritis of the hip, saying "This is one of the great triumphs of reconstructive surgery." He then goes on to caution that not all hip pain is caused by degenerative changes. In the next section on chondromalacia, one sentence reads "Unlike what has just been said about hip osteoarthritis, this (chondromalacia) is a disorder that never, in my experience, causes pain." Inferring that the hip changes sometimes DO cause pain.
So there you have it - I don't recall what TDM has to say on the subject. But these are my 2 favorite TMS books, both are to the point and give a good overview of how physical TMS symptoms act. I've also gained more appreciation for Monte Hueftle's book - some of it's a bit ethereal (out there) for me, but he does have some very down-to-earth discussions about the absurdity of TMS symptoms, and how poorly the MD community deals with them.
Weatherman"
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Ace1
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Posted - 03/15/2012 : 15:46:24
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| Tt it was not mentioned in any of his books he told me directly face to face that he come to realize that hip replacements could be avoided if the person accepted it as being tms |
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Re: TMS Author Steven Ray Ozanich's Leaving
