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djp
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 Posted - 03/02/2012 : 11:22:36
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My sister in law is a back pain sufferer. She has seen numerous Dr., Chiro, Neurologists, had cortisone injections, Xrays. MRI, etc etc. and has been told they don't know why. She is now living in pain. Once about a year ago I mentioned TMS (I'm a TMS Sufferer) and she immediately dismissed it as hogwash. I'm sure I presented it wrong. I really care about this person and want to help her, I'm sure it's TMS. Any ideas or past experiences would be helpful.
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tmsjptc
USA
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Posted - 03/02/2012 : 12:28:25
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| DJP, do a search in this forum for a thread I started titled "Despite my progress spouse won't consider it". I had a similar situation and the comments I received back on my thread were very helpful. Good luck! |
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lynnl
USA
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Posted - 03/02/2012 : 17:58:43
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Good luck djp.
In my experience it's next to impossible to convince most non-believers, unless they themselves stumble onto the idea. Dr. Sarno, in one of his books, makes the observation that most people seem to have to reach a point of absolute, last resort desperation before they'll accept the idea.
People will accept the idea that it worked for me. But they automatically assume mine was some sort of special case, and their pain on the other hand is "real pain," for which this would NOT work.
Unless, and until, this idea can reach a "critical mass" within the medical provider community, I can't foresee the public at-large ever embracing the TMS concept. So truly sad!!
It's like trying to push a rope.
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Darko
Australia
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Posted - 03/02/2012 : 18:34:21
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If you want to get a "foot in the door" ask her if she is open to the idea that stress is causing her issues....people are more open to that idea.
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cnotes11
USA
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Posted - 03/02/2012 : 20:59:15
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Lynn nailed it I think. People have to take their own path, I started off exactly the same. I had people telling me things and would dismiss it as new age bull****.
But anyone whose spent enough time in legitimate chronic pain will tell you its very humbling. It shouldn't take that long for a person to become open to anything that might help. But before that point, I think pushing a rope is apt.
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 03/03/2012 : 02:18:42
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Hi Djp,
As the saying goes you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. TMS/psychosomatic pain is a psychological defense mechanism. Dr. Sarno has added to psychosomatic medicine theory by theorizing that TMS pain is a PROTECTOR and not a punisher as Freud thought. Your sister-in-law's subconscious has decided for her that she needs her TMS pain as a protection to distract her from what it feels is the more painful emotional pain she doesn't want to deal with at the present. If someone really wants to heal they will be open to anything, your sister-in-law doesn't sound ready. You could maybe litter her house with TMS books and videos. Some of the others here probably have some good ideas on how to present TMS to her without alarming her subconscious.
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DR. SARNO'S 12 DAILY REMINDERS:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0dKBFwGR0g
TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale
Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." Jiddu Krishnamurti
"Pain is inevitable; suffering is optional." Author Unknown
"Happy People Are Happy Putters." Frank Nobilo, Golf Analyst
"Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint." Mark Twain and Balto
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TMS PRACTITIONERS:
John Sarno, MD
400 E 34th St, New York, NY 10016
(212) 263-6035
Here's the TMS practitioners list from the TMS Help Forum:
http://www.tmshelp.com/links.htm
Here's a list of TMS practitioners from the TMS Wiki:
http://tmswiki.org/page/Find+a+TMS+Doctor+or+Therapist
Here's a map of TMS practitioners from the old Tarpit Yoga site, (click on the map by state for listings).:
http://www.tarpityoga.com/2007_08_01_archive.html |
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Marlawantstohike
USA
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Posted - 03/03/2012 : 10:20:48
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Tom is right she is probably not ready to let go of the pain that is protecting her.
My husband has watched me, and my pain is about 95% gone now but he still says things like let's be careful, can't do this again, you shouldn't do this or that. And I have said a few times he has TMS because of all his emotional issues. He agrees to a certain extent but won't do anything about it like reading a book. He did listen to a YouTube by Sarno with me.
He has this weird stigma about self help books. But listening is ok. I just wish the audio books were cheaper. We are tight n money and I have got most my books from library or used copies.
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