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stevep
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 Posted - 01/09/2012 : 12:27:22
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I was seeing him up until Decemeber of 2011, and then I ran out of sessions under my insurance. That is pretty much when I discovered Sarno coincidentally. And not to jinx it, but I have basically pretty much cured myself better than anything else I've ever done (pretty much everything).
Anyway, I like the guy personally. He is open-minded and well read. I told him honestly that I discovered Sarno and am having great success. He admitted that he has read his books and while he agrees to an extent with some of what he says, he cannot agree with everything. It was a little bit awkward. But he told me good luck and if I ever need anything, not to hesitate to drop in.
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cnotes11
USA
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Posted - 01/09/2012 : 21:46:51
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Your post struck a chord with me because I've had extensive history with multiple chiropractors, and not exactly a positive history. Sounds as if yours was pretty decent, but I can say from first hand experience there are some pretty horrible ones out there.
First of all there is something fundamentally wrong with being solicited for medical treatment. Sure they call with the front of checking on your condition wellbeing etc. I can't help but be cynical though, particularly when it comes to structured treatments. I went to one who "diagnosed" me and then informed that to treat me I would need 24 visits. One of the most shocking things was being handed a flyer on financing my treatment upon leaving.
This seemingly arbitrary number of visits seemed suspicious to me, needless to say I didnt go back. Later I came to understand that some Drs sign up with management companies who institute these type of structures...as far as I can tell for the purpose of profiting. Sure theres more to it than that, but thats the bottom line.
This particular chiropractor called me no less than 4 times afterward, "checking in" -- it was like being telemarketed to go to the doctor. Also have a couple massage therapist friends who attended conferences with many chiropractors and told me they were disgusted by some of what they saw and heard. Not surprising.
Getting away from the more sinister aspect of it, there are many I feel are happy to simply reduce symptons and let you continue treating with them for years. I think with chiropractors its easy to form an unhealthy co-dependancy and it seems most do little to stop this. Its palliative care flaunted as curative and I think its, to a large extent, damaging.
I am sorry if this is coming off angry and onesided. But I felt the need to respond if for nothing else than my own catharsis. But beyond that too I would hope that others out there strongly advocate for themselves with chiropractors and be very critical about who you see and what they are doing. I am do not mean to sandbag the entire profession there are some good chiropractors out there, I just think there is too much room for some of the negative aspects I've described.
*steps off soapbox*
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Dude
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Posted - 01/10/2012 : 08:47:24
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| I'm a chiropractor and I suffer with TMS and have used Sarno's approach with myself and with patients. I really have a problem with ALL chiropractors being lumped in together. People don't do this with police officers, MDs, etc. Why with our profession? We're taught in school to use whatever works besides drugs. It's been my experience that chiropractors are more open to Sarno than traditional MDs. Doesn't mean all MDs are bad, just my experience. As for calling patients, I call patients I haven't heard from to check on them because I care about their health, not to solicite for money. My wife had surgery and her surgeon called her everyday after that. It made her feel better. Most patients like getting a call, they think it's a nice gesture. I can't speak for all chiros but for me, if I was motivated to get into a profession only to make money, I would not have become a chiropractor. I would have been an MD. |
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stevep
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Posted - 01/10/2012 : 08:58:34
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| Dude, I take it that you were referring more to cnotes post rather than mine. Because like I said, I like the guy a lot. And I legitimately do think that the primary focus of his call was to see how I'm doing. Although I have to admit, I think he was at least somewhat bummed to lose a patient. |
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Dude
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Posted - 01/10/2012 : 09:03:24
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| Yes, I was referring to cnotes. I don't want to have suppressed anger over this so I'm voicing my opinion. lol. I try not to take things I hear about my profession personally, and I get frustrated when I hear about morons in my own profession. I just want people to know that there are chiros who recommend Sarno. I have lost patients because I suggested TMS. I can't in good conscience not recommend when I see the signs and symptoms of classic TMS. |
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stevep
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Posted - 01/10/2012 : 09:12:13
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| Gotcha, and thanks for the honesty. |
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Dude
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Posted - 01/10/2012 : 09:25:48
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| And I am aware that Cnote made mention that they were not sandbagging the entire profession, so that was fare and I appreciate that. |
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cnotes11
USA
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Posted - 01/10/2012 : 20:28:20
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Thanks for noting that I wasn't attacking all chiros. In fact through my treatment I found one who helped a great deal, but he had wandered pretty far from anything that could be considered "traditional" practice.
In this sense I think there is another big problem with how not only chiropractors but western medicine in general address these types of issues. For example, I find it disturbing the number of people in the United States who have some time of chronic pain -- and then to know generally whats out there for them treatment wise. Western medicine provides great value for many things, but I think when it comes to different types of chronic pain its pretty much at sea, and the worst part is no one seems ready to admit this. I would rather have a doctor tell me they don't know what to do but will try their best, than project false confidence.
And I'm ranting again...I'll stop. |
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Joy_I_Am
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/11/2012 : 05:46:26
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I think some practitioners are well-intentioned and do some good - I always felt better after seeing an osteopath the last place I lived, although the effect never lasted; she was a positive, life-affirming person...
I've also recently been pursued by a chiropractor and his staff - I wasn't even a patient, I'd just enquired, but they repeatedly phoned me and said they'd made appointments without my say-so, just to 'make sure I got in', which I thought was well out of order; as was trying to frighten me with talk of 'tumours' without even examining me or taking a history! This sounds quite different to your practice, Dude.
If I hadn't known about Sarno, I'd have been totally taken in by that.
As with any business, there are going to be good, honest people, and there are going to be... the others. I don't think, by castigating the latter, anyone is trying to insult the former.
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Chiropractor just called to check in on me
