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susies1955
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 Posted - 12/06/2011 : 05:02:34
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I'm doing Day 8 of the Structured Educational Program.
http://tmswiki.org/page/Structured+Educational+Program
When I have pain I try to know the emotions connected to it but I don't seem to be able to do that. When I think I just get a whole list of everything and nothing specific.
Is the emotion suppose to be from something in my past, in my now or what?
Making progress,
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 12/06/2011 : 06:22:29
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Are you speaking of "emotions" or "events"? If it's emotions, it may be helpful to make a list of the different emotions, such as "anger", "fear", etc.
If it's "events", the Rahe-Holmes list in my sig below will give you a list of life-events that cause TMS/psychosomatic pain.
TMS occurs when we experience these events, we repress or suppress our emotions, bottling them up rather than feeling and expressing them (when appropriate). |
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susies1955
USA
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Posted - 12/06/2011 : 06:38:20
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Pain is from repressed emotions right? So when I feel pain I'm having trouble pin pointing why I'm having the pain. Does that make sense? What if I don't know what the trouble is?
I'll check the list out.
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Edited by - susies1955 on 12/06/2011 06:39:59 |
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 12/06/2011 : 07:01:47
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You are having TMS pain because you are not feeling your emotions--you are bottling them up inside--repressing and suppressing them. The "TROUBLES" are listed on the Rahe-Holmes list.
Good luck, stay the course!
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TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale
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Dave
USA
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Posted - 12/06/2011 : 10:26:05
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quote:
Originally posted by susies1955
Pain is from repressed emotions right? So when I feel pain I'm having trouble pin pointing why I'm having the pain. Does that make sense? What if I don't know what the trouble is?
There is no way to know what is causing the symptoms. It is not any specific repressed emotion, it is an overflow of repressed emotions in general. Since they are repressed, by definition they cannot be felt. Therefore, you cannot expect to "pin point" the exact emotional source of the pain, as this is simply not possible, nor is it necessary.
In general, you should focus your thoughts on emotions that you might be repressing, whenever you are aware of the symptoms. Be completely honest with yourself and think about the feelings you are pushing down because they are embarassing, forbidden, scary, etc.
Recovery is a reconditioning process more than a search for the repressed emotions that may be contributing to the symptoms. |
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susies1955
USA
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Posted - 12/06/2011 : 12:53:20
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I've been stuffing emotions since I was a child. Oh no and I'm 56. LOL.
So do I have this right that 'if' pain arises I'm too see what the emotional stuffing might be right at that time?
Am I confused or what. :)
Thanks for helping me.
I just got Dr. Sarno's other book "The Mind Body Perscription in the mail and "Unlearn Your Pain" by Dr. Howard Schubiner. Hopefully they will help me too,
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Dave
USA
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Posted - 12/07/2011 : 09:11:08
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Originally posted by susies1955
I've been stuffing emotions since I was a child.
Exactly. It is a habit that developed over an entire lifetime. It is only logical to expect that you will not be able to break that habit quickly or easily.
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So do I have this right that 'if' pain arises I'm too see what the emotional stuffing might be right at that time?
Not exactly. I find it is best to consider TMS as a random process. There is not necessarily any connection between when/where/how bad the symptoms are, and what you are experiencing emotionally at that very moment. In fact, symptoms may occur when you are generally happy and when you cannot find any conscious reason for it.
The metaphor that Dr. Sarno uses is that there is a reservoir of unconscious rage that exists inside of us, that is filled over time with negative emotions that we are repressing, When the reservoir gets too full and threatens to overflow, TMS gives us symptoms to distract us so that we do not allow those repressed emotions to rise to the conscious level, where they would be too dangerous to experience. Thus, TMS is protecting us by giving us pain instead of allowing those bad emotions to be felt.
Whether or not you choose to embrace this specific metaphor, the treatment is simple. We must accept the symptoms as normal, ignore them as best as we can, resume normal physical activity, and try to think about negative emotions that we might be repressing, that could be a contributing factor to the symptoms. Do not expect that you will find "the" trigger for a TMS attack; this is not possible nor is it necessary. TMS is not such a sophisticated process. It is a product of the primitive part of our mind. |
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susies1955
USA
30 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2011 : 09:21:47
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Dave,
Thanks for your reply. That helps. :)
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arsondude
Canada
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Posted - 12/07/2011 : 11:00:05
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Hi Susie,
I normally mediate for 10 minutes and my emotions come flooding out. I use a mediation app for my iPhone or you can buy a CD from any national book store - in Canada Chapters or US Barnes and Noble or on-line. I use one with just a facilitator talking about breathing and letting yourself feel your emotions and not judging them and its amazing what comes out.
I found mediation at first to be weird - but once i started to practice it daily it allowed me to get in touch with my inner thoughts and emotions are. Some days i sit and cry when i do it for 10 mins others i smile.
Anyway, mediation has helped me get into my repressed feeling and rage maybe it could work for you. You have nothing to lose.
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susies1955
USA
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Posted - 12/07/2011 : 12:42:58
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I find meditation weird too but I keep trying. :)
Thanks,
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