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wrldtrv
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 Posted - 08/22/2011 : 20:39:05
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| This is ridiculous! Mccafan, it seems you came out of the gate attacking Alexis with your first post. She has tried to defuse your aggressiveness, which you take as showing off her intelligence. Well, she is intelligent and what's wrong with that? You dismiss her evidence as "dime a dozen studies" and what do you have instead? Your own experience. Okay, that's one person. I'm inclined to believe that nobody should be on Xanax any longer than need be and better not at all, if possible. That said, there isn't one rule for everybody. You have your own personal experience with the drug, while Alexis has studies. Who's right? The way I see it, you're the expert as far as your own physiology goes, while Alexis's external evidence is also valid and not to be dismissed as showing off her "superior intelligence" as you put it. |
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maccafan
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Posted - 08/22/2011 : 21:23:55
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alexis
Wow, you're good. Good at manipulating. I just took the time to read your bio and other comments there which were very arrogant too. It explains a lot about you though. You find us all irritating! You're sick of newbies and their complaints. Share and when you're well then get out, etc. etc. If you agree too much with Dr. Sarno you're a cultist. You make such stange comments.
If you think we're all such dullards why are you here?
I wasn't actively looking to do anything but possibly help another person.
I think you're the one that's severly paranoid. And I don't hate you, good grief, I don't even know you. But I do think you're insecure. If you want to think I'm a bad, cruel person that's ok because I don't care what you think and I know what you're trying to do with those kinds of statements. You don't even know me except that I stood up to your dismissal of me and you didn't like that at all. Gee, are you going to do that every time I try to give my 2 cents worth same as most people are doing here?
I haven't done anything wrong so you can drum up all the sympathy you want. I don't need it and I read your bio.
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tennis tom
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Posted - 08/23/2011 : 00:37:51
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I'm rootin' for ya' Maccafan! You are not alone. As you can see in Alexis' bio, I have also been the target of her pseudo-intellectual elitist attitude. She cherry picked some phrases I wrote in jest, taking them out of context. She has inhibited my ability to freely express myself here, forcing me to be wary of how she will manipulate my words. She has her fans and I'm one of yours Maccafan, for having the courage to confront her head-on. Maybe you will also be enshrined, like I have been, in her bio.
I try, at the TMS Forum, to help as many people as I can to obtain accurate TMS info, and to give them contact info to TMS doctors and therapists. Yet, Alexis has never given me any credit for my good deeds here but only ridicules me for having the temerity to correct her when she has misstated TMS info.
Alexis continually nit-picks at the Good Doctor's theory, criticizing him for not having "clinical science" to back up his theory. This undermines what TMS'ers need the most, belief in Dr. Sarno's theory. Ultimately, gaining the belief that they can control their own mindbody health and not be solely left to the whims of the medical/industrial complex. I for one, have had enough of physical and social scientists, dictating to me how to lead my life according to their flawed vision from the Ivory Tower.
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DR. SARNO'S 12 DAILY REMINDERS:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0dKBFwGR0g
TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale
Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." Jiddu Krishnamurti
"Pain is inevitable; suffering is optional." Author Unknown
"Happy People Are Happy Putters." Frank Nobilo, Golf Analyst
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art
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Posted - 08/23/2011 : 06:15:10
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When it comes to drugs like Xanax, it really does depend on the individual. What we should be talking about here is the whole class of benzo's, which by any standard have revolutionized the treatment of anxiety disorders. They are generally safe and effective.
That said, we're all different. Trouble can certainly arise with certain individual physiologies. Those with addictive tendencies can run into terrible trouble if not monitored properly.
BUt what drug does not have drawbacks? There are very often serious, even devastating side effects in drugs that overall, do quite a lot of good. SHall we ban the use of narcotics because some people become junkies? For that matter, shall we do away with chemotherapy because sometimes they even kill?
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maccafan
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Posted - 08/23/2011 : 13:45:33
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Hello tt,
Thanks for the back up. She did spend a lot of time in her bio defending herself against you and I thought this was abnormal. She seems too concerned about what people think of her. If she has really left I think she will return and claim I misinterpreted what she said there. But she can't say I'm misinterpreting the nasty, nasty things she said about me. She is becoming desperate and childish in her attacks on me. And also in her bio she says she's better so the rest of us are irritating her now which means she's better so she hopes we will get better and become irritated by the posters too. Circles! She builds up, puts down, builds, puts down and there's a term for this and it is passive-aggression.
She may not think of herself as an expert (maybe she really does) on this board but she does try to act like an authority on how we should think about everything! It could be that she's a prophet and not Dr. Sarno. And if visiting message boards is ultimately not good then why the heck is she here?
Dr. Sarno's info, theory or not helped me reclaim my life so to me it didn't need to be proven by "clinical science". If that makes me a cultist to alexis, tuff cookies!
There's so much more that I could say about the scientific world, benzos and tinnitus but for now I'm sticking to being confronted by this person for the way I worded my first sentence in my first post on this thread.
Art,
I never once said that people should not take medications or ban them. I said to be your own advocate, learn the pros and cons before you make your decision to take them, etc. We all have to take them at times. But we have to weigh the risks and learn about the risks before we do and not just blindly leave it up to the doctor because she/he knows best. We have to get off our butts and use our own brains as well about these important decisions.
ABrooks,
Sorry about all this for your sake. I meant well and I hope you're feeling better. |
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Javizy
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/24/2011 : 08:18:21
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ABrooks,
If nothing's working for you at the moment, why not give some basic health maintenance a go? There are things you can do that you might not even consider "treatment", but just living well.
If you eat nothing but junk fats and get no omega-3 in your diet (much more common than you may think), the fat cells in your brain will be mainly omega-6-based. These kind of cells have been shown to contribute toward depression and mood swings. In fact, many studies have shown between 2-6g/day of omega-3 can help reduce impulsive behaviour, hostility and physical aggressiveness. People with a lot of fish in their diet are also less likely to develop Alzheimer's as they age. In other words, try eating healthily!
Don't just eat healthy foods, but eat them at the right times and select ones with high protein or fibre content. Fatigue is almost always a symptom of depression, and the right kind of diet can do a lot to reverse it. If you find fatigue a real problem, and your diet doesn't seem to affect it, adrenal fatigue and/or low thyroid activity may be involved. Both are pretty common in people with long-term problems such as anxiety or depression, but you'll be lucky if your doctor is sharp enough to diagnose it. Diet can positively influence both of these problems, though.
Another thing to look at is respiration. Hyperventilation can lead to as much as 40% less oxygenation of the brain. This has been shown to make brain cells hyperactive, which can fuel symptoms of anxiety, and the feeling that you can't shut off your mind. It's also terrible for your circulation, which can obviously contribute towards your pain symptoms. Cardiovascular exercise can be a good way to improve your breathing, and it helps to dissipate stress hormones. It has a number of advantages for your brain chemistry too, but only if you do it regularly (3-4 times/week), so no weekend warrior stuff!
I'm sure you'll agree relaxation is important, so why not try finding some time to be completely at ease with yourself? Meditation, yoga, massage or even a nice bath can work wonders. But you really need to make a habit of it. Learn that you matter and don't put off your alone time for the sake of pleasing other people! Consider it part of your treatment and be sure to make time for it each day.
These are just a few ideas, and there are plenty more out there if you're willing look with an open mind. I'm finding some books about neuroscience quite intriguing. It's interesting to understand which part of your brain causes you to do things like forget what you went into a room for or obsessively think about something. Learning about things so objectively makes me incredibly aware of such habits in myself, and I think it goes some way to reversing them, too.
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Suzanne
USA
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Posted - 09/07/2011 : 23:23:06
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Originally posted by tennis tom
...No one forces anyone to continue reading a thread when it is obvious it's getting unpleasant, but I guess it's like a car wreck and it's hard not to peak. I've advocated in the past at the Forum for an area where folks can "tell it like it is" like a Reichian screaming room. I think that would be a healthy outlet for those who wish to participate.
If people get turned-off by the very rare expression of an emotion here, my advice would be, curl-up with a TMS book and read it very thoughtfully. This Forum can be as much of a distraction from "healing" as any other. The best thing is to read the books and absorb the TMS Penicillin Knowledge accurately and absorb it on a cellular level.
I don't view TMS as an "illness", as the Good Doctor says, it's part of the "human condition" which we cannot insulate ourselves from entirely no matter how hard we may try. When people say they are "cured" I wonder for how long? We may think we are in control of our destinies but that is an illusion. The best thing to do is learn to deal with the occasional intrusion of the "nasty" real world and be thankful if we can be the observer rather than the participant.
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DR. SARNO'S 12 DAILY REMINDERS:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0dKBFwGR0g
TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale
Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." Jiddu Krishnamurti
"Pain is inevitable; suffering is optional." Author Unknown
"Happy People Are Happy Putters." Frank Nobilo, Golf Analyst
Tom, I just wanted to say that back in 2004, 2005 and part of 2006 before my son was born, I never once had a problem with you, or saw you in altercations with anyone. Actually, this forum wasn't much of a hostile place at all. You were helpful and friendly.
Since then, I've come here now and then, but I've not had time to post my situation... not yet. Anyway, I see the forum has changed—a lot. I don't think anyone should have such high school antics in their personal profiles. The forum wasn't like that when it began. I've not read through everything, but for those that are new here, they should not judge you on the words of someone, or a couple of people, who have issues. I knew you for a couple of years from when this forum began, and you were always there for everyone, and helpful, with kind words.
Still battling my TMS, but now doing it with a healthy, energetic 4 1/2 year old boy who goes back to preschool tomorrow, so I'm off to bed. A new symptom of my TMS just recently is insomnia, no matter how exhausted I am. But now that my son will be in school, I'll have time to do "Unlearn Your Pain" and re-read Dr. Sarno's books, and do Dr. David Schechter's workbook if I can. I am looking forward to getting my hands on Adam Heller's book. His Facebook profile and posts on the TMS group peaked my interest. My TMS is at it's worst, and I am 11 years 5 months in... I cannot live like this any longer, it's destroyed my life and each day it consumes each moment. I need my life back. |
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 09/10/2011 : 07:58:43
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Originally posted by tennis tom
...No one forces anyone to continue reading a thread when it is obvious it's getting unpleasant,[/i] but I guess it's like a car wreck and it's hard not to peak.
...If people get turned-off by the very rare expression of an emotion here, my advice would be, curl-up with a TMS book and read it very thoughtfully. This Forum can be as much of a distraction from "healing" as any other. The best thing is to read the books and absorb the TMS Penicillin Knowledge accurately and absorb it on a cellular level.
... We may think we are in control of our destinies but that is an illusion. The best thing to do is learn to deal with the occasional intrusion of the "nasty" real world and be thankful if we can be the observer rather than the participant.
Tom, I just wanted to say that back in 2004, 2005 and part of 2006 before my son was born, I never once had a problem with you, or saw you in altercations with anyone. Actually, this forum wasn't much of a hostile place at all. You were helpful and friendly.
Since then, I've come here now and then, but I've not had time to post my situation... not yet. Anyway, I see the forum has changed—a lot. I don't think anyone should have such high school antics in their personal profiles.
Hi Suzanne, and thank you for the kind words. Sorry to hear you are having a tough time of it, hopefully with what is just the benign TMS gremlin. You do have a beautiful child that you can feel eternally positive for creating.
Don't be off-put by this minor dust-up. Historically the forum has always had occasional debates and arguments going back to the its "good ol' days" under the auspices of its founder Austin Gary.
One thing I find unique to this forum is an absence of the usual internet squabbling, antics and down-right nasty stuff, that is "normal" for most other internet message boards. I think this is telling to the psychological issues of those who deal with TMS. The lack of "hostility" and energetic give and take, is not necessarily a healthy sign from a TMS perspective. Evidence of more fight here may be evidence of some positive emotional energy that may be channeled to fight the TMS gremlin.
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bryan3000
USA
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Posted - 09/10/2011 : 12:07:09
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Hi Abrooks,
First off, I'm sorry for your problems... and I can relate.
I'd recommend a few things...
1. Buy Hope and Help for your Nerves by Dr. Claire Weeks. You can also download her audio book "Pass Through Panic." I listen to her book almost daily, at times. It's been a massive help to me. I still suffer from panic/anxiety, but her books and audio (along with other sources) have helped me to at least be able to function and enjoy more of life.
2. Find a therapist, immediately. CBT would be good... and of course, finding a TMS therapist eventually would be worth your while. Something does appear to be going on.
3. Find some way to exercise, be it walking, whatever. You've got to take some control back from your symptoms. I find that even just walking puts me back in control of my body for a while. It's an important confidence boost and of course, has chemical benefits as well.
Beyond that, if you read my sig... you'll know why I say to be very careful with Xanax. Please do not take this on a daily basis. I'm not an anti-benzo preacher, despite the hell I went through. I think they have their place. But, the last thing you need is to become dependent, and then have to deal with true WD symptoms.
Try to slow all of this down and make it smaller. Take it day by day, and moment by moment. You can get through all of this, and it will get better.
-1/2010 - Developed chronic sinus problems. ENTs/Docs can't find anything
-5/29/2010 - Doc gives cocktail of allergy meds which induces first ever panic attack/anxiety.
-7/16/2010 - Anxiety stays/worsens - put on Xanax
2/1/2011 - Began Xanax taper - Withdrawal starts - full body chaos
-6/11/2011 - Last dose of Xanax. Physical/emotional chaos continues for several months.
-Now: Taking it day by day, looking for real answers and ways to heal myself without medical poison. |
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Mayita
Spain
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Posted - 09/11/2011 : 10:35:34
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Balto,
That was an excelent response you gave about not fearing the symptons.
I found it a great contribution, honestly!
JJH, keep the possitive attitude, that is your best asset!! |
Edited by - Mayita on 09/11/2011 10:51:07 |
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I don't think I can take this anymore! Please help
