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redrockrick

USA
10 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2011 :  13:02:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i have been working on my TMS for the past 8-9 months intensivley.
the issue i know face is getting totally and completey off the pain meds.
i was on hardcore pain killers when i started and now i am down to a very low dose of a minimum strength pain killer.
my question is do i need to get off all of the pain killers to be "cured"
it seems (ironically) that the stronger the pain pill the worse the pain.
i noticed as i cut the strength i was in less pain.
i feel like i need to be pill free to be pain free.
thoughts?

Rick

redrockrick

USA
10 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2011 :  13:18:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
also i feel like i have been conditioned by the pain pills.
my brain creates the pain so it can get the pills.
make sense?

Rick
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kokolo

Croatia
11 Posts

Posted - 05/12/2011 :  15:37:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello!

I felt that with me, also. But to be honest the painkillers didn't much help me in the beginning.
Maybe it's OK to use them to relief yourself from pains. Pains are real. It's true that they are just symptoms, not the cause. You just need to be aware why are you using painkillers (to get relief) but the cause is somewhere else and you need to treat it like TMS.

That is my belief, maybe more experienced memebers, and those which achieved their goal can tell us more.
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Mudster

5 Posts

Posted - 05/12/2011 :  17:41:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've got paracetamol and codeine, but don't really need such strong pain killers. The thing is the codeine tablets do offer a nice buzz and I've got to watch that, as I'm prone to addiction. I'm sometimes tempted to take them at night, because I find I get to drift off better. I've been suffering badly from insomnia, which I think is also psychogenic and related to the TMS. Having said all that I haven't taken any pain killers in a few weeks, so I'm doing ok.
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Darko

Australia
387 Posts

Posted - 05/12/2011 :  18:21:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Red,
There seems to be a fair amount of intensity related to the whole subject for you. Over intensity and over analyzing will also produce negative emotions that will contribute to TMS.

sounds to me like you've been getting good results doing what you've been doing.......keep to that path.

Try not to box yourself into rules and worrying about what is right or wrong.

What I do is ask myself if something serves me or not. Does it serve you in the long run to be on painkillers? Sounds like you already know the answer....and you're already comfortable with path you're on. Don't let your mind torture with toxic thoughts.

Good luck

D
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Javizy

United Kingdom
76 Posts

Posted - 05/13/2011 :  07:35:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You don't have to go all out straight away. Why not try reducing the amount you're taking to begin with? All they do is cover over the symptoms; they're not addressing any of the causes, as I'm sure you're aware. If possible, save them until just before you go to bed. Getting a good night's sleep will help a lot.

If you haven't tried meditation before, I'd also recommend that. There are a number of books on the subject written from the perspective of reducing pain/stress. It'll help you in a lot of other ways in your efforts to recover. A lot of studies on meditation make for some powerful mindbody evidence. You can do it laying down, so don't worry if sitting is too uncomfortable.
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Dave

USA
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Posted - 05/13/2011 :  11:07:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by redrockrick

also i feel like i have been conditioned by the pain pills.
my brain creates the pain so it can get the pills.
make sense?


Try not to overanalyze. Dr. Sarno will prescribe pain pills to his patients. There is no need to suffer in order to recover from TMS. As long as you accept the pills are treating the symptoms only, and that the pain is benign and fueled by psychological/emotional issues, there is no reason not to take a pill if you need temporary relief.
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HilaryN

United Kingdom
879 Posts

Posted - 05/13/2011 :  13:58:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Rick,

Well done on reducing the pain killers - that's excellent. I'm sure you'll get off them altogether when you're ready.

Hilary N
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