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Whoaday
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 Posted - 02/06/2011 : 19:41:37
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I don't really believe this to be true...as we know TMS can cause a lot of these sensations but supposedly a lot of or nearly "ALL" disease comes from what we eat...not having the PH toward alkaline...makes you sick...stomach pain...heartburn...headaches...not having energy...
Obviously...eating healthier will probably make you feel better but really...we are never supposed to eat any meat? no snacks ever...?
I haven't seen much of anything on this forum about it...so I figure most may think it's bunk...I know it's physical...but any truth do you think?
I just don't know that I could essentially become vegetarian like the alkaline diet states
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Back2-It
USA
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Posted - 02/06/2011 : 21:50:37
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This is a discussion that is entirely up to personal preference, I believe. That and how you feel generally overall.
Completely vegan or vegetarian diets can be lacking in some essential vitamins and amino acids and protein as well. But careful attention can make it work.
The major question facing most of us is the adulteration of food. This is a danger that can shorten lives no matter if you eat things with faces or not. Meat is stuffed full of chemicals and antibiotics and plant food is genetically modified sometime to the extreme, where you could be eating a hybrid plant/animal. Let's not even talk about the chemical soup sprayed on your frankencorn.
I've seen the debate acid and alkaline. I don't know what to think. Are we to go around peeing on a strip of litmus paper after each meal?
Will that make us live longer and better?
Personally, at various times in my life I've felt better on a nearly plant based diet, and sometimes I need the beef, so to speak.
If I could get bison cheaply I would eat that -- and game meat. But if I leave my house with my shotgun and hunt down the ally for the local rabbit I'm afraid I will be discussing my TMS symptoms with Bruno behind bars.
Try a vegan or a veggie diet and see how you feel. Your body won't lie. |
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alexis
USA
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Posted - 02/07/2011 : 20:37:01
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I whoaday,
Eating is certainly important, but this kind of simplified and rigid approach sounds like an obsessive disorder, or "orthorexia", and is likely to be another just another distraction. I am mostly vegetarian, and have been varying levels of vegetarian/vegan over the last 25 years, but I don't honestly believe it's any healthier on average than a reasonably balanced mixed diet (I'm an ethical vegetarian).
What's more, you can do yourself permanent neurological damage if you aren't very careful with moderately strict vegetarianism. Done right, you may get some health benefits (lower risk of heart disease, diabetes etc.), but adjusted for other lifestyle issues (exercise, generally healthy eating) vegetarians don't appear to be healthier when you look at good controlled studies from peer reviewed sources.
And we don't have the kinds of answers to say how much illness is caused, or partly caused by food as opposed to, say, the many, many viruses you've been infected with since childhood, or genetic defects and mutations, or weak mitochondria or environmental pollutants.
I think the reason people here don't talk about eating is it easily becomes another obsession. If you're very unhealthy and 50 or 100 lbs overweight, maybe you do need to obsess a little, but for those of us inclined to distraction syndromes, going down this path is a real risk.
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kenny V
USA
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Posted - 02/08/2011 : 06:52:08
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There is a great wealth of info out there on the state of the body, what is healthy, your diet and what are foods that heal. That is something you may want to study within as a nutritional standpoint. Diet nutrition enzymes and supplementation and proper hydration.
Resources would include few of Michael Murray books. Another wonderful book “The body cries for water”. You may also want to read The Vitamin research product website and articles as well as Dr Mercola’s website. IMO all resources listed would be a good place to start.
However if you want to go further, I would suggest to understand pH balance in how it affects your body as it involves the liver, cleansing, diseases as when you body is in a State of sickness. (Not well for any reason)
Their was a pioneer who discovered (IMO should have won the Nobel peace prize) when your body is in a state of acidity it becomes sick or is in the process of sickness. . However when the body is properly pH Balanced (alkaline) you do not get sick or get better from being sick. This is not a theory or debate it is good science and useful t info to help you get better. Something the mainstream community doesn't practice too much. . JMHO because they generally treat symptoms not the underlying condition.
IMO understanding what causes the body to become acidic, and pH management is something to look into, study and research as it involves all types of sickness and over all well being.
Bottom line if you can keep the body properly pH balanced, cleansed and properly hydrated daily you will not get sick and can also heal many sicknesses. Of course if you are also exposed to something on a daily basis (toxin poison, virus or whatever). That is making you sick you need to find out what is the culprit and remove that or eradicate that as well.
HTH
Kenny V
Always Hope For Recovery
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alexis
USA
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Posted - 02/08/2011 : 17:02:34
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Try to avoid replacing a health anxiety or pain distraction disorder with an eating disorder. The blinders you have to put on to believe these theories are uncontested and only the evil medical establishment blocks them is comparable to the leap a 95 lb anorexic must take in believing herself overweight and that her friends and family are plotting to make her fat.
Sure, limit fast food and eat your veggies. Then move on if you want to get psychologically healthy. |
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kenny V
USA
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Posted - 02/09/2011 : 11:32:05
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Alexis im not sure if you are making a general statement which is mostly true as far as eating disorders, and pain as distractions or directing it to the post what I have written. Regarding the body in an Alkaline vs. Acidic state. I wrote this specifically in relation to sickness, healing the body, gut and pH balancing.
Also you can continue with this idea with detoxification .
Btw the liver and the pancreas are both responsible for all of these actions in the body. The stomach produces hydrochloric acids, which is used throughout the small and large intestines, which recycle bile, bile salts, and a host of other things that make up the digestive system function properly .
Using drugs, including, NSAID’S as well as acid reflux agents all effect the pH balancing. Not to mention the wrong foods high in animal fats, oils and too much Omega 6 fats without proper Omega 3 fatty acids
However Now I will say many of us do believe in the mid body connection. IMO how we original came to this such forum to learn and Apply Sarno’s TMS model. Which I totally agree. I was just commenting on the state of the body for FYI as it relates to sickness and Alkaline vs. Acidic state of the body.
What I was mealy discussing was an over burdened system as to why we become sick in the first place. Cancer is NOT TMS and TMS is NOT cancer . Also general health and well being as it relates to Digestive issues and the like. Anyhow
Btw there is a mind body connection but also without a doubt a gut brain connection too.
Anyone interested in learning it they can now look into and research that in the future
Wishing everyone well
HTH
Kenny v
Always Hope For Recovery
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jaya
USA
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Posted - 02/10/2011 : 10:31:53
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scd diet all the way..... no grains -no starches! i love the diet you have to have ocd to be on it though-which is right up my alley-my tms turned into a selective eating disorder--im being sarcastic here my new obsession is diet, no matter how good i eat, tms symptoms still here-the divided mind all the way... stop doubting it , it only prolongs the agonyquote:
Originally posted by kenny V
Alexis im not sure if you are making a general statement which is mostly true as far as eating disorders, and pain as distractions or directing it to the post what I have written. Regarding the body in an Alkaline vs. Acidic state. I wrote this specifically in relation to sickness, healing the body, gut and pH balancing.
Also you can continue with this idea with detoxification .
Btw the liver and the pancreas are both responsible for all of these actions in the body. The stomach produces hydrochloric acids, which is used throughout the small and large intestines, which recycle bile, bile salts, and a host of other things that make up the digestive system function properly .
Using drugs, including, NSAID’S as well as acid reflux agents all effect the pH balancing. Not to mention the wrong foods high in animal fats, oils and too much Omega 6 fats without proper Omega 3 fatty acids
However Now I will say many of us do believe in the mid body connection. IMO how we original came to this such forum to learn and Apply Sarno’s TMS model. Which I totally agree. I was just commenting on the state of the body for FYI as it relates to sickness and Alkaline vs. Acidic state of the body.
What I was mealy discussing was an over burdened system as to why we become sick in the first place. Cancer is NOT TMS and TMS is NOT cancer . Also general health and well being as it relates to Digestive issues and the like. Anyhow
Btw there is a mind body connection but also without a doubt a gut brain connection too.
Anyone interested in learning it they can now look into and research that in the future
Wishing everyone well
HTH
Kenny v
Always Hope For Recovery
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alexis
USA
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Posted - 02/12/2011 : 06:48:53
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Kenny,
I definitely believe in a mind-body connection...it's pretty much a given unless you're some sort of religious adherent. The mind is, after all, an aspect of the biological system (neurons).
I personally have suffered a fairly severe vitamin deficiency and know how serious some very real health issues can be. There are a wide range of areas in which the science is pretty solid...no vitamin C, you get scurvy, too many calories, you get fat, no B12 you get nerve damage. But other things even believed once to be "known" are highly controversial...any point to the average person taking calcium (or does that cause alzheimers)? What are the right daily levels of vitamin D (I have seen peer reviewed studies varying by orders of magnitudfe)? Just which fats are good and bad for you?
The things you're talking about, detox and pH theory, simply aren't proven and if you really do an objective search of the literature you'll see that. To jump on these theories as though they are proven and order your life around them is obsession.
One of the problems I've seen over and over with TMS types is that we don't like to say "I don't know". We think we can think our way out of any problem, be it personal, political, health or nutrition. But the fact is there's a lot of stuff we just don't know.
Anything were there are still huge numbers of conflicting study results is not a proven case. And on these topics, there's no consensus at all. If you really believe there is you're reading very selectively and just feeding your need to feel certainty, a need that's near desperation levels among TMSers. But its not real. In most cases the certainty you feel "knowing" the right political answers and "knowing" the right diet is just an illusion.
Maybe an irrational nutrition obsession is better than irrational obsession on pain. Religions are generally irrational and often obsessive and they do make many people happy (usually their own members)...so I don't think solid logic and objectivity are the end all answer for everyone.
But for TMSers the problem is often a focus on "figuring out" or "doing what's good" as a distraction from real emotional issues. You can focus your mind on "figuring out" the cause of your pain or on "figuring out" the "right" diet. But if you can get rid of your need to distract and your need to feel "knowledge" of the answers you will really be free.
Alexis
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Back2-It
USA
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Posted - 02/12/2011 : 07:09:30
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No matter what the diet consists of, it's the nature of the food itself that has me concerned, and I'm no greenie by any means. What is in some of the meats that we may eat? What is sprayed or spliced into the plants? Does it have any cumulative effect on our bodies, on our DNA?
Is that beet we are eating a plant or dose it now have animal genes in it? If so, does it matter? When will we find out?
Look at the new fluoride debate. When I was a kid there was a big debate about putting it in the drinking water, but we were assured that it was safe by the science establishment. Now, there is serious question.
Sorry, this gets off the subject. Probably eating in moderation and keeping your body exercised is just about as good as we can do, lacking a consensus.
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kenny V
USA
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Posted - 02/14/2011 : 13:25:54
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The human body has amazing potential to heal. As a whole we are made up as mind body and spirit. If you treat only one of these 3 components, you may get well enough if not you may have overlooked something. Imo something so small that it could cause such a big problem. Especially if it is neglected and or compromised. The body is amazing and has the potential to heal in so many ways. The brain is also a chemical factory. And as we have learned it can combat pain but also if not function properly can actually cause pain to a person with a host of other manifestations.
How bout the building blocks of the human body do you think that has anything to do with our overall health status? Macrobiotics , microbiotics, RNA DNA the beginning of life, enzymes, can they be changed altered or compromised? If so what can effect them and ultimately the way they function?
What if our auto immune system has been compromised, or put on over load than what happens to the rest of the body ?
Some food for thought
What key elements do plants need to sustain life?
And how bout in the animal kingdom?
Let me pose a few simple questions What key elements do we need to sustain life and why?
But what if you take it away, restrict or poison the environment worse yet the body. Then what happens?
Our body has a complex makeup, which includes an Auto immune system. Somethings works on Auto-pilot don’t they? Its all there for a reason, Everything has a function and a purpose. Our Human makeup is not only spirit, not all-just body (physical) and certainly we don’t only function because of the mental component. It is all beautifully orchestrated together to function as a whole. If something is out of whack or out of balance the body doesn’t function properly does it?
So let me ask the next Question so where does disease and sickness come from in the first place? Why do some people get cancer, diabetes, Alzeimers, high blood pressure and what simple things have we learned over the years and discovered to prevent any of these? How about from getting sick in the first place?
Just posing some simple Q’s that require often times simple solution that may be overlooked. That’s all pH balance is very much relevant to the human body Maybe not for A TMS shoulder or TMS foot but definitely if you have a host of symptoms that are not stress related. Can a fish get sick? stressed out , SURE. What if you change the Ph in the water Does that effect anything ? How bout in the soil in the ground in regard to vegetation. Or how about Microbes in the water? Will altering the pH creates an unhealthy environment there? Im not saying pH balancing, detoxing is the answer to everything. But as I have suggested it is relevant to any form of sickness and the state of the body period its proven science.
MY best to everyone
Kenny v
Always Hope For Recovery
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alexis
USA
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Posted - 02/17/2011 : 17:51:27
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Originally posted by kenny V
Their was a pioneer who discovered (IMO should have won the Nobel peace prize) when your body is in a state of acidity it becomes sick or is in the process of sickness. . However when the body is properly pH Balanced (alkaline) you do not get sick or get better from being sick. [i]
Hi Kenny, was this pioneer? |
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kenny V
USA
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Posted - 02/17/2011 : 21:00:03
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Your body's pH levels affect every process within. If your pH is acidic, you cannot effectively absorb nutrition (vitamins, minerals or supplements). Research has already proven that disease cannot survive in an alkaline cellular environment, and thrives in an acidic environment.
To compensate for the cellular acidic environment, the body begins to displace magnesium, potassium, and sodium, three critical minerals in the body. When mineral reserves become low, calcium (the most alkaline mineral) is drawn out of the bones and put into the blood. This drawing of calcium to buffer acidity in the lymphatic system causes osteoporosis, arthritis, etc., and other problems caused by excess free calcium.
All diseases exists in an acidic body, and most people are acidic from poor diet and lifestyle choices. The magnitude of this factor is of incredible importance to someone who is fighting a disease, overcoming an illness, or just wanting to be healthy.
An extended time in an acidic pH state can result in many discomforts and diseases such as rheumatoid arthritis, fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, diabetes, lupus, tuberculosis, osteoporosis, high blood pressure & cholesterol, heart disease, most cancers, eczema & acne, kidney & gall stones, gout, hiatal hernia, indigestion, anxiety, diarrhea, dilated pupils, extroverted behavior, fatigue in early morning, headaches, hyperactivity, insomnia, nervousness, rapid heartbeat, muscle cramps, restless legs, shortness of breath, strong appetite, and many more.
I was just stating a FACT about Acid and Alkaline in regard to sickness and state of the body. Not insisting that a TMSer must become pH balanced to get better.
As a matter of course, everything living on good old planet earth must remain in a pH-balanced state for the ecosystem to function as designed.
Science proves that fish in our oceans and lakes can only survive in properly balanced environments; trees in our forests can only grow in properly balanced soils; and people can only stay healthy if the body has a balance between its levels of Acid and Alkaline …
All disease is due to inflammation, which is directly linked to the body's pH balance. pH balance is an index for the health of the whole body. The pH level can be tested through urine, blood plasma, or saliva.
Very simple enzymes build tissues, tissues build organs and organs build systems .So it all goes back to enzymes pH Controls Your Body's Major Systems and Organs.
When its internal environment becomes acidified, the body can fall ill in three different ways. The first is connected to the activity of enzymes. Enzymes are the "worker drones" behind all the biochemical transformations that take place in the body and on which the proper functioning of the organs depend. Enzymes can perform their task correctly only in an environment with a clearly defined pH; otherwise their activity can be disrupted or even cease completely. When their activity is merely slowed down, illness appears. If there is a complete interruption the body can no longer function, and death results. Before this extreme stage is reached, different ailments set in as an increasing number of enzymes find their world disturbed by the acidification of the internal environment.
Enzymes that were constructive (catalysts for almost every natural reaction in the body) can become destructive.Mineral assimilation is affected by pH levels. The body uses minerals in its buffering system, to keep pH in balance. Oxygen delivery to cells suffers: cancer thrives in an oxygen deficient environment, caused by acidic pH.
Proper nutrition and activity can return and keep the body's pH levels near normal, for health and vitality. The body is a well designed naturally balanced machine: if you work with it, instead of against it, it is capable of tremendous self healing. Total healing takes place only when, and if, the blood is restored to a normal, slightly alkaline pH. Understanding this concept is essential to understanding diseases such as cancer, and their cures.
Research has already proven that disease cannot survive in an alkaline cellular environment, and thrives in an acidic environment. Again I was giving stating a few facts and trying to be helpful.
Anyone interested can Read a little about The Importance of Your Body's pH Balance and perhaps you may be enlightened.
My Best
Kenny V
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alexis
USA
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Posted - 02/17/2011 : 21:12:34
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Originally posted by kenny V
Again Research has already proven that disease cannot survive in an alkaline cellular environment, and thrives in an acidic environment. Again I was giving stating a few facts and trying to be helpful.
Anyone interested can Read a little about The Importance of Your Body's pH Balance and perhaps you may be enlightened.
I have tried to find studies supporting what you write about and have not found it, that's why in the previous post I was trying to ask for the name of the "pioneer who discovered ... when your body is in a state of acidity it becomes sick or is in the process of sickness" to whom you refered earlier. It appears I left out the word "who" which may have confused you as to what I was asking. Could you please provide this name?
Having name as a starting point would help the rest of us to evaluate the information you are stating here. Without that reference you may as well tell me the aroma of violets prevents cancer - we need to see who does this research and how they publish to consider if it is worth inquiry when other issues compete. I'm not asking you to provide all the information and quotes - just the name as a starting point. |
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kenny V
USA
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Posted - 02/17/2011 : 21:28:51
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I thought you were being sarcastic by what you said that kenny discovered it.
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Hi Kenny, was this pioneer?
No I don’t know the originators name . It Doesn't matter .
If you are really interested in Diseases Linked to pH Acidity and Ph management I am sure you will come across his name .
Research has already proven that disease cannot survive in an alkaline cellular environment, and thrives in an acidic environment. Again I was giving some info and stating a few facts,trying to be helpful. Anyone interested can Read a little about The Importance of Your Body's pH Balance and perhaps you may be enlightened.
My Best
Kenny v
Always Hope For Recovery
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alexis
USA
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Posted - 02/18/2011 : 06:14:30
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Originally posted by kenny V
No I don’t know the originators name . It Doesn't matter .
If you are really interested in Diseases Linked to pH Acidity and Ph management I am sure you will come across his name .
It does matter - no one has time to research all theories in a world filled with thousands. I have searched, and the lead two people I've found on this subject aren't reliable at all - Robert Young, for instance, is one of the main proponents, and appears to have only degrees from unaccredited universities that he doesn't name. Another guy names Wolfe has warnings on his record from the FDA and looks like primarily a salesman.
You said you think this pioneer deserves a Nobel Prize (why a peace prize, I'm not sure). It seems to me unlikely that if you really know this theory so well you can't provide the name of the person you believe deserves such recognition. I will posit openly that I suspect you are citing one of the dubious people I have just named, especially since one has written an article whose title exactly matches one of the lines in your post.
All of which brings me back to my argument that you are clinging to this not as science but religion. This may be OK for healthy people, but for people with distraction syndromes this kind of irrational belief is an obsession that is blinding your normal behavior. Do you really believe it sounds normal to start making "scientific" claims and statements without even providing the name of the researcher you are supposedly so devoted to? You really could only see your behavior as normal if you have abandoned objectivity.
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kenny V
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Posted - 02/18/2011 : 08:26:33
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Respectively disagree Btw I do not wish to debate on something that many of us probably already agree about if we discussed in greeter detail. Or brought more info to the table on the subject. I am already a believer and of the Sarno camp. But also learned a few other things related to the human body over the years. Yes this forum is to discuss primarily TMS along the mind body connection. But one must remember every symptom or condition that the human body experiences may not all be related to TMS. Sometimes and I say SOMETIMES there are other things that may bring us further along, (or effect us) if we knew how else the body functions regarding optimum health.
Simply put Sometimes we need to look at the entire picture. I have been on many health forums over the years and many types of these groups so I am not preaching my fix or selling my product to anyone. I commented on pH management and the state of the body regarding Alkaline vs. Acidic for FYI only.
With that said I would say often time’s folks who prescribe to ONE methodology. Or are just holding on to a one fits all approach can only see though that set of glasses limiting themselves from learning and understanding other things. Again I have already adopted Sarno’s work and been pain free symptom free for well over 8 years now. But I have also learned a few other things related to health a well being along the way. Geeez! No need to continue this discussion. I was just visiting saying hello and maybe sharing something useful regarding general heath and nutrition.
How many people on this forum are using prescription drugs to treat their symptoms? Well why not use good old common sense as related to you’re over all health and well being. Well what if you can obtain the same results but do it naturally the way the body responds more favorable. Especially without all the side effects or being counter productive to what the body already knows how to heal it self.
It doesn’t matter medical literature is clear on the role pH has on all living organisms period! Science agrees with this. Any decent and knowledgeable heath care professional will understand this. Ones that studies general heath and Nutrition, all the way to retroviruses, and infectious disease. JMHO there is no doubt that a biochemist would concur with this info as well. Ok IM done there that’s my take anyway.
Sarno describes the TMS theory as oxygen depravation to the muscle hence a change breakdown, causing pain. TMS in its state is an ongoing process, which results of specific manifestations. Example continued elbow pain back pain etc…. Are we good with that, so if we both agree with that explanation some what great. Now I will give a few examples as pH effects the body as a result (NOT CAUSE). Again not saying that you must pH balance you body to get rid of TMS pain. But I am saying if you have oxygen deprivation than then the state of your body has gone though a change. JMHO.
Let me ask does anything change in the state of the body when it’s healthy and when it’s sick?
Of course it does How about with a muscle in spasm? How about a muscle in spasm for a LONG time what then happens to it?
When you exercise your body it produces a chemical change in the body and brain doesn’t it? Cant you have strength you never had before? Or perhaps experience the opposite effect and have main and symptoms.
How about when athletes push their bodies to the limits and collapse. What changes that causes the body to shut down or a system to fail? Put very simple How about lactic acid in a muscle during exercise or during fatigue. What change is taking place?
Anyway my original questions were never answered. I asked them to simply illustrate the importance rolls of basic building blocks to the human body.
What is our make up and how does it function or remain healthy? I guess this may be too deep or too complex for the deep thinker.
Again what key elements do plants need to sustain life?
What key elements do we need to sustain life and why?
But what if you take it away, restrict or poison the environment worse yet the body. Then what happens?
What if our auto immune system has been compromised, or put on over load than what happens to the rest of the body?
I am stating it all works together and there will always be a cause and effect in relationship to all sickness and symptoms. Again Most mainstreams DR’s treat symptoms rather then the underlying symptoms.
Answer these first then it would be easier to move on to the topic of pH management including Alkaline vs. Acidic conditions.
Why does it trouble you or anyone for that matter if I don’t know the first Dr, group or scientist who noted the state of the body as it relates to the body and pH management There are many areas of medical breakthroughs that replicate and validate the roll of Alkaline vs. Acidic conditions especially related to sickness. . I learned about pH management as related to the liver and detoxification over 10 years ago. So for me I don’t think it matters today who was the first to discover the process of when the body gets sick and what prevents it when its not able to get better.
I suffered for 22 years with pain and many other related conditions. Ten years ago I could barely get out of bed. Once on my feet I lived in stiffness and pain thought the day. (Lived continually at 11 on a 10 pain scale) I could barely walk less function in my daily life. Lived this way for another 2.5 years as it crippled me. Today I am pain free haven’t seen a doc in well over 8 years on any drugs and medication and pain free. I run 3 time a week and feel great. Yes I give a BIG thanks to Sarno however there are other things learned to remain healthy and symptom free
All is I am saying is there is a host of info regarding remaining healthy and treating sickness and disease. Only shared my comments to open up a few possibilities and treatment options to those who have come so far with their condition. What I am trying to bring to the table am a common sense approach regarding general nutrition as it related to the bodies’ role in maintaining a healthy status. Something the mainstream medical community often dismisses or lacks in as they often continue to treat symptoms. Of course if you go to a PO, DO a naturopath or Nutritionist that may offer some other logical solutions to symptoms we often see manifested in unhealthy individuals.
For the record I believe whole hearty in the TMS approach and model that Sarno has described in his books. Yes 100% believe in TMS as it relates to many stress related disorders, as I have been healed from over 22 years of chronic back pain. But I have also learned much more about the mind and body as it relates to our over all heath and well being. Again trying to share additional info that that may help one who has multiple symptoms related to their TMS. Perhaps they may get so far and continue to chase a bunch of other symptoms that are clearly not TMS or TMS related symptoms.
My best
Kenny v
Always Hope For Recovery
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kenny V
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Posted - 02/23/2011 : 08:25:42
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Some FYI info about lactic acid that may be helpful regarding muscle cramps, spasms and muscle fatigue .
Again FIRST do the work of TMS and pay attention to the emotional component.
Rid any trigger, reprogram any misconceptions about a structural abnormality, and change your mindset, attitude. Deal with your personality traits; get rid of any placebo’s that compete or anything that is counter productive to the TMS strategy. Then of course start to get better.
Relax and learn to use relaxing techniques that help you feel better.
During the healing process . And again if you are already getting better with Aplying Sarno’s work. JMHO ther is nothing wrong with a Jacuzzi and maybe light message . If need be light exercise and stretches. Again not as a replacement to doing the real work.
Put in your body things that are a wholesome. Put in your mind attitude and thoughts that are wholesome. Get some fresh air and enjoy life a little. Celebrate how far you have come.
Don’t over exercise and try to fight of the pain … Its not a battle it’s a cycle to break . IMO first start to get better before you over do it. T Take time and allow your body to heal .
JMHO I would first do above but if you want something for muscle cramps then (get rid of soda) perhaps take a generous amounts of Magnesium calcium . here is Some Info on muscle and muscle fatigue as it involves lactic acid.
HTH
Kenny v
Zinc and Oxygen are cofactors for lactic acid transformation to pyruvate into the krebs cycle. There is another way in which it can be transformed to glucose.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactic_acid
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During power exercises such as sprinting, when the rate of demand for energy is high, lactate is produced faster than the ability of the tissues to remove it, so lactate concentration begins to rise. This is a beneficial process, since the regeneration of NAD+ (derivative of vitamin b3; niacinamide) ensures that energy production is maintained and exercise can continue. The increased lactate produced can be removed in a number of ways, including:
-Oxidation to pyruvate by well-oxygenated muscle cells, which is then directly used to fuel the Krebs cycle
-Conversion to glucose via gluconeogenesis in the liver and release back into the circulation;
Also see the Cori cycle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cori_cycle
In addition to oxygen and zinc, it is important to have sufficient b vitamins in place as cofactors in transforming the various krebs intermediates...especially B1
, B2 (FAD precursor), B3 (NAD precursor), B5 etc.
Always Hope For Recovery
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kenny V
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Posted - 02/23/2011 : 08:49:17
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FIRST do the work of TMS and pay attention to the emotional component. Get rid of any placebo’s that compete or anything that is counter- productive to the TMS strategy. Then of course start to get better. Relax and learn to use relaxing techniques that help you feel better during the healing process.
Again if you are already getting better with Applying Sarno’s work. JMHO here is a few other things you may want to consider. It is for FYI only regarding the use of NSAIDS and or Drugs .
When I first came on board to Sarno’s work I was probably taking an anti-inflammatory 6 times a day. Sure it may have helped reduce inflammation but it WAS NOT working. Nothing was. Hec I even had 2 epidorall steroid injections prior to reading his books. The first one lasted two weeks the second one lasted 2 days. I never went back for the their because I was already primed to adopt the Sarno method. And I knew if I was going to get better I needed to Adopt what Sarno went on to explain in his work as he continued to treat TMS and develop his methods
This is for FYI only perhaps to consider or assist you as you are getting better . JMHO It is good old common sense info. Please disregard if you feel it may not be helpful for your condition.
How NSAIDS Cause You Pain
So What do you do when you get an ache or pain?
Most people would say they take a pain reliever like Tylenol.
Or, one of a variety of non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDS), which are the most frequently prescribed medications in the world.
Here is a list of the most commonly used NSAIDS. See how many you have used:
- Aspirin
- Celecoxib (Celebrex)
- Diclofenac (Voltaren)
- Diflunisal (Dolobid)
- Etodolac (Lodine)
- Ibuprofen (Advil, Motrin, Nuprin)
- Indomethacin (Indocin)
- Ketoprofen (Orudis)
- Ketorolac (Toradol)
- Nabumetone (Relafen)
- Naproxen (Aleve, Naprosyn)
- Oxaprozin (Daypro)
- Piroxicam (Feldene)
- Salsalate (Amigesic)
- Sulindac (Clinoril)
- Tolmetin (Tolectin)
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Their widespread use gives us the clear impression that they are safe.... Gulp!
Just a little research confirms they are very dangerous. And not just with high doses. All it takes is a little over a period of time. NSAIDS actually have more side effects than practically any other drug type. Because like ALL prescription and over-the-counter medications, they toxify the human body.
It can only be assumed that they are kept on the market for two reasons. One, they can relieve pain quickly...and we all like that, right? And two, they make billions of dollars in profits for their manufacturers. And politicians like the huge campaign contributions from the big drug companies, don't they?
So governments just cover their eyes and ears, and shout, "I'm not listening! I'm not listening! I'm not listening!"
Here are the some of the listed side effects of those seemingly innocent little capsules:
Gastrointestinal bleeding (ulcers)
This is the most common side effect of NSAIDS. In fact, NSAIDS are the 2nd leading cause of ulcers. People who use them are four times more likely to be hospitalized with ulcers or gastrointestinal bleeding than non-users.
Signs of bleeding in the digestive tract include:
- bright red blood in vomit
- vomit that looks like coffee grounds
- black or tarry stool
- blood in stool
Chronic GI bleeding can lead to fatigue, weakness, shortness of breath and anemia.
Liver Damage
Studies show that people who use NSAIDS on a daily basis have elevations in liver tests that are as high as twice the normal levels.
This is not good.
Your liver serves 300 different functions--most importantly, removing dangerous toxins from your blood, making alkaline enzymes for your body and metabolizing fat and protein.
If it's constantly being stressed from the toxicity created by any of the pain-relievers listed above, it can completely shut down.
Translation: Pushing up daisies. Curtains. Headstone Park.
Central Nervous System Effects
NSAIDS have been known to cause these side effects, especially in the elderly:
* Psychosis - a loss of contact with reality, usually including delusions
* Cognitive dysfunction - poor mental function, associated with confusion, forgetfulness and difficulty concentrating
* Hallucinations
Makes you wonder whether the forgetfulness or "CRS disease" that many older people suffer from might be from NSAIDS use instead of just an expected consequence of aging.
End-Stage Renal Disease
Researchers estimate that as many as 10% (1 out of 10) incidents of kidney failure is directly attributable to acetaminophen use alone (like Tylenol and similar products). 1 of every 10.
The risk increases when between 105-365 pills are taken in a year (as little as 1 every few days), with a sharp increase after 1,000 pills per year (about 3 a day).
Just like with your liver, if your kidneys shut down, you're stiff city, a goner, a buyer of the farm.
You're probably thinking, OK, so now what do I do? Especially if you have frequent or even occasional aches and pains and don't want to suffer.
Glad you asked.
The safer alternatives to NSAIDS
Pain is caused by inflammation...inflammation in your bones, joints, organs and/or tissues.
So if you reduce the inflammation, your pain reduces greatly or goes away completely. That's actually how NSAIDS "work," but you now know their dangers...which you don't want.
Instead there are two MUCH safer, natural alternatives:
1) Reduce the acidity throughout your body
2) Have a healthy balance of essential fatty acids
3) Proper hydration
Note: one of the most important things you can do for your body is to keep it properly hydrated. It is rather simple and often overlooked. Your urine should be clear in color and Just about odorless.You should drink at least half your body weight in ounces of water a day.
My urine discharge is always clear other than the first morning pee and or if I am taking supper B complex supplements.
JMHO Proper hydration is all essential and the most overlooked to many conditions.
As always my best
Kenny v
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LuvtoSew
USA
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Posted - 02/24/2011 : 11:24:44
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Well Kenny I agree with you, drink lots of water, and cut back on the sugar and processed foods,
I do believe the food we eat has a great deal upon how we feel and function.
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Alkaline vs. Acidic
