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robbokop
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 01/20/2005 : 04:46:38
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Hi everyone,
I read the Sarno book a couple of months ago and got completely rid of the supposed RSI that had plagued me for the last 6 months - hurrah! However, I have to admit that I became lazy following that at keeping up with Sarno's suggestions, and lo and behold, TMS has found it's way back - this time it's an uncomfortable sensation in the bladder and a need to keep 'going' to the bathroom - far too often. I know 100% that this is TMS and that I am causing it to distract myself from pent up emotions. I wondered if anyone else has come across this in their experiences of TMS. Also, one more thing - does anyone have any advice about stopping thinking of the distraction and staying 'in the world'?
Great quote I read by Bob Dylan yesterday which really reminds me of TMS:
'Something wasn't clicking, like when the world is hidden from your eyes and you need to find it'
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Susie
USA
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Posted - 01/20/2005 : 08:03:30
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| Robocop-Just chalk it up to another tms equivalent. I have had it off and on for years and pay absolutely no attention to it. For me it's fairly short lived but I can always connect it to something stressful or even exciting. I have had it escalate to the point that the minute I get back to the living room from the bathroom I have to turn back around. The urgency can also appear at bedtime. Many times I have to get up maybe 5 times in 15 minutes before I fall asleep. Don't worry about it. No biggie and very harmless. |
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Laura
USA
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Posted - 01/20/2005 : 08:25:58
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Robbokop,
I've had this same problem, on and off and I agree with Susie. It is harmless, (annoying but harmless) and it's just become another distraction for you.
Laura
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Albert
USA
210 Posts |
Posted - 01/20/2005 : 09:48:23
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| I have to visit the tidy bowl man more often than is preferable too. It's good to know that I'm on a path that will cause the number of visits to go down. |
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 01/20/2005 : 10:14:03
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| I get urinary urgency too. Mostly on driving trips. It's interesting that I only experience it on the return leg of the trip. No doubt, TMS trying to distract me from whatever emotions I associate with returning to home territory. |
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Tunza
New Zealand
198 Posts |
Posted - 01/20/2005 : 12:50:13
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Hi Rob,
I'm sure I've read about frequent urination as a TMS equivalent in one or more of the TMS books I have. Sorry I can't remember which one.
One of my TMS equivalents is hayfever. I think I do have an actual physical allergy but it is worsened by my unconscious "turning up the volume" I have been able to stop fits of intense itchiness, sneezing and running nose by thinking confidently about it being TMS AND applying some "mindfulness" which is about bringing yourself into the present. It's kind of hard to explain but Jon Kabat-Zin has written a few books on the subject.
Two great titles of his are "Full Catastrophe Living" and "mindfulness Meditation for Everyday Life). He talks about how we don't necessarily have to go into a quiet room to meditate. We can do (for example) the dishes mindfully. You can walk up stairs mindfully. If you actual pay full attention to the stairs or each dish you clean, not what you're going to do when you get to the top of the stairs etc then you naturally are brought into the present. This has a really calming effect on me and has been so successful with my hayfever but it's the combination of my Sarno-learning and this that has made the difference.
I am hoping with continued TMS work I will lose the multiple-tendonitis that tries to keep me focused on my achilles, shoulders, elbows, wrists, knee etc.
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robbokop
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/20/2005 : 15:06:50
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Thanks for the great advice. Kat, you will get rid of your tendonitis symptoms if you keep going. I had those symptoms, neck, shoulders etc etc and the knee thing - they just gradually dissolved with time - I am a jazz pianist and everytime I sat down to play the symptoms became much worse. Then I realised that I was putting myself under ridiculous pressure and unreachable targets. Isn't it amazing how one symptom disappears when you convince yourself it isn't real and then another crops up and actually manages to worry and fool you!
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JoeW
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/20/2005 : 19:27:04
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I have the same problem Robbokop (hesitancy, urgency), but only recently realised it could be TMS. Mine started with a combined attack in various areas (also including dizziness, extreme motion sickness, numbness), which at the time was diagnosed as MS, after a spinal MRI. That was a few years back. The urinary problem stayed on, though not as bad, and I had assumed that I was stuck with it as some permanent MS damage.
Only after discovering Sarno, and other mindbody sources, to cure my RSI, in the last year, did I realise that my problem was actually probably conditioning, and that MS itself might also be a mind related disease. Apart from the one bad attack, I only had cases of numness every 6 months or so. When first read Sarno, I felt something coming on in one leg, but whereas previously I would have thought "oh no, another MS thing, how bad will it be this time", I realised that it had coincided with a reduction in RSI, and was actually a moving TMS distraction. It subsided within a few days.
The bladder problem is harder, and I have a couple of years of conditioning to overcome now, especially when trying to sleep, but I am starting to notice improvements, and continue to work on it.
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Tunza
New Zealand
198 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 13:09:51
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Hi Robbokop,
I meant to thank you for your encouragement about the tendonitis. Did you ever have "catching" or "clunking" in the affected joints?
This seems to keep me focused on the structural.
Cheers,
Kat
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robbokop
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/25/2005 : 15:12:42
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Hi Kat,
Yeah I did and still do sometimes. I have all sorts of clicks, clunks etc - but, they are becoming less now the pain is gone. When I was at my worst, I would be playing a solo piano gig and my wrists would sound like they were almost snapping - that has stopped too and I am playing again without any prolems. Several years ago I constantly had really bad headaches and my neck made all sorts of weird noises, clicking etc - was very worrying at the time! It's strange, it just doesn't do it now. I think it's actually quite natural for the joints to clunk etc - I have a few friends who have quite creaky joints but they are in no pain whatsoever! Anyway, stop concentrating on the physical - your body is a lean, mean fighting machine!
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Tunza
New Zealand
198 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 15:19:52
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Thanks Rob, you've just made my day 
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