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 Posted - 06/19/2010 : 08:47:06
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| I have been suffering from plantar faciitis and neuroma for two years. I have tried custom orthotics, physical therapy and had an Eden procedure to relieve the pain but to no avail, I have been unable to wear shoes or even sneakers (normal and wider widths) without neuroma pain, yet I can wear birkenstock sandals with tolerable discomfort. Not too practical during the winter months. I have been advised to have the nerve removed from my foot but one of the side effects is numbness of the toes. I have not been able to find many who have had that procedure with success. Has anyone out there recovered from neuroma pain using TMS process. I have read the Sarno books prior for back pain and was able to control that issue. Is the plantar and neuroma just a shift? |
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tennis tom
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Posted - 06/19/2010 : 09:39:54
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Plantar fascitis was really big a couple of years ago as a TMS symptom, many of the ladies at my tennis club were catching it after the lovely wife of the tennis pro got it.
Removing your nerve to alleviate the pain just sounds barbaric to me. It's treating the symptom rather than the cause, but your foot surgeon needs to eat and make payments on the Jag so I can't blame him for trying.
Do a search here and you will find numerous citations for PF. If it's part of your body or your brain, it can very well be TMS. See a TMS doc for a DX.
Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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Cee
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Posted - 07/21/2010 : 14:15:29
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Hi- I am also suffering from PF like pain in both feet. Sometimes the pain from just standing is so much I feel faint. I will stand there with tears streaming down my face. I miss taking walks and working in my garden and my house and I am so fearful of returning to school in Sept.as I am a Teacher. My husband is loosing his job and we have children in college so bills have to be paid and I need to go to work. I miss my life.....I hate this pain.
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art
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Posted - 07/21/2010 : 17:10:31
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I've had pf and metatarsalgia, which I think is another name for neuroma. Classic TMS.
Cee, this is important to hear... These conditions should not be giving you this level of pain. The more intense the pain in conditions such as these (hence the more compelling the distraction) the more likely it's TMS.
You can get your life back. I hope you do. |
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wrldtrv
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Posted - 07/21/2010 : 20:19:38
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Have you tried doing the opposite--going barefoot or wearing very minimalist shoes? You said yourself that you felt better wearing the sandals than shoes, orthotics... This sounds counter-intutitive, but it might be worth a try. Two reasons: One is a TMS reason, the other is physical. First, if it is TMS, going minimalist is a challenge to the fear. Second, there is a trend away from orthotics, hi-tech running shoes towards less supportive or no shoes, the idea being, your own body is much better than shoes in cushioning itself. Also, minimalist strengthens the foot and ankle muscles that shoes and orthotics weaken.
I'm a runner who has always worn orthotics and have always been injured with one thing or another. I currently have four pairs of $600 orthotics and only one pair can I wear without the feeling I am doing myself harm. I have gradually started experimenting with Vibram Five Fingers and even barefoot, and I can honestly say it feels better. But I have been so programmed that I need orthotics and hi-tech shoes that I have been very, very slow to move further in that direction. It's fear and conditioning. My goal is to eventually toss all the orthotics in the garbage. |
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swmr1
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Posted - 07/22/2010 : 06:53:55
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I have had a couple pairs of orthotics for running over the years. I was diagnosed with a condition I didn't really have at one point by a podiatrist and wore orthotics constantly for about a year. My feet have never had more issues. I finally started wearing Crocs. Two podiatrists told me how bad Crocs are for your feet (no support). However, my feet felt better than ever.
It dawned on me that human beings have been walking without orthotic support for thousands of years. Our feet have evolved and adapted over thousands of years and, somehow, people managed to do a whole lot more walking than we do in our society without "proper support." When did we get so fragile? It's only in the last 30 or so years that "orthotic support" has been offered in shoes. Remember playing sports in Converse tennis shoes with NO support? |
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art
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Posted - 07/22/2010 : 08:56:51
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Wrld, that's a worthy goal. If human feet actually were to benefit from having little plastic pads under them, I'm certain evolution would have caught up with that by altering the structure of the foot...
I'm equally certain barefoot running's the way to go, but given my penchant for TMS, it would be one heckuvan adjustment period..
swmr....agreed. all well said... |
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Cee
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Posted - 07/22/2010 : 09:33:25
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Art- your statement that this condition should not be giving me this level of pain really struck something in me....so is it TMS or did the Doctor miss something...here goes my mind.....
Cee
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art
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Posted - 07/22/2010 : 10:13:29
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quote:
Originally posted by Cee
Art- your statement that this condition should not be giving me this level of pain really struck something in me....so is it TMS or did the Doctor miss something...here goes my mind.....
Cee
Cee
Cee, recovering from TMS requires an internal revolution of sorts. You're going to have to stop thinking about doctors and scary diagnoses. If you're seeing a non-TMS doc, there's nothing for him to miss. He's trained to diagnose pain through the lens of structural problems. If you say the arch of your foot hurts, he'll tell you you have plantar. If you tell him it's the ball of your foot, or toe, it's neuroma or metatarsalgia..
You need to read the books. Have you read any of them?
I'm glad what I said struck a nerve because it should from a logical standpoint. A broken arm might cause you to weep with pain, but not garden variety tendonitis which is essentially what you're talking about.
Look, this is all good news. Read the books, hang around here, start to think psychologically. Dollars to donuts you'll have a new lease on life before too long.
You just have to do the work. Feel free to email me or any of the female veterans around here if you're more comfortable. There's a lot of help to be had here. You need only ask.... |
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Cee
USA
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Posted - 07/22/2010 : 11:29:09
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Art- You do not know my whole story and I will share over time, but not to sound too sappy....this morning I prayed that someone would simply listen to my words and understand that I am in pain. My family may love me but they wrote this part of me off long ago. I just want to say Thank you to you.
I have read Dr. Sano's first book but not the latest which I actually have on audio. I saw a TMS Doctor a few years back and I tried but....here I am again...pain, weakness, faintnes and fear.
I will stay in touch and looking for that new lease on life !
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art
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Posted - 07/22/2010 : 12:56:45
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Originally posted by Cee
Art- You do not know my whole story and I will share over time, but not to sound too sappy....this morning I prayed that someone would simply listen to my words and understand that I am in pain. My family may love me but they wrote this part of me off long ago. I just want to say Thank you to you.
I have read Dr. Sano's first book but not the latest which I actually have on audio. I saw a TMS Doctor a few years back and I tried but....here I am again...pain, weakness, faintnes and fear.
I will stay in touch and looking for that new lease on life !
Cee
It won't come knocking on your door. You have to go get it. If you've been to a TMS doc and read the material, you have all you need... along with the support of this forum. Up to you.
Prayer is nice and I'm all for it if it helps you, but in all honesty I'd suggest pouring more of your time and energy immersing yourself in getting better... and less in wanting to be understood, as painful as the lack thereof clearly is to you.
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