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Fox
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 Posted - 04/15/2010 : 06:36:47
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| To make it short, I have had problems with left leg sciatica for many years and have had many treatments and many surgeries for it to no avail. Through serious and focused (I am a Sarno purist) application of Sarno's theories, I have for the last several years decreased my pain by roughly 80 to 90% and I have been very happy with that outcome. Also, I have returned to all activities - except for running - which I try every 6 months for a couple of days - then give up because the butt, leg, and foot pain is so intense for 3 or 4 days straight - after the run(s) - however not during the runs....By the way, I do walk 30 to 90 minutes every day with no problem....Last night, I was talking to my brother and he described his recent return to running in great detail, including a description of the neighborhood course that he took. I began getting mild butt, leg, and foot pain while listening. And when I stated to him that I planned to attempt running again myself sometime within the next two weeks, that pain became very severe and lasted for 15 minutes. I was fine before the phone conversation.... That, my friends, illustrates the power of conditioning. |
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catspine
USA
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Posted - 04/15/2010 : 23:25:01
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Yes it is but don't forget that you can also use this great power to your advantage. |
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Fox
USA
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Posted - 04/16/2010 : 06:45:52
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| Yes, I've got the knowledge and the belief but now I need the courage to tolerate rather intense pain for more than just a few days. I do love walking, and with walking you can actually appreciate your surroundings better than running, but I feel I am not "cured" or "whole" until I have returned to all my former activities (running 6 miles a day was one of them). Also, I do miss the addictive runner's high and the potential for dramatic weight loss - I was actually too skinny when running to that degree but at this point I would like to lose 10 pounds and walking is not going to do the trick - unless I can devote 2 hours a day to walking....I would like to try running for two weeks straight instead of giving up after 2 or 3 days, and if it doesn't work out, hey, maybe at that point I will just accept that the conditioning is too strong and be happy with walking. |
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catspine
USA
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Posted - 04/16/2010 : 20:17:47
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Fox
You know this may sound weird to you maybe but what about trying to figure out the link between running and your pain with the help of a hypnotherapist? I mean a certified one not a wanna be one. I was surprised to find out that a friend of mine succeeded at finding the cause of awful panic attacks sparked by dogs barking anywhere anytime when he loves dogs but for that reason couldn't be anywhere where there was barking. After years of his whole life being govern by this consequences of this problem tons of money spent in various specialists psychiatrist and all w/o success a one hour session for $85 revealed the cause of it and he worked on it accordingly and he's been fine ever since.
I don't know if it would work for you I just thought I could mention it because my friend's problem had something to do with unconscious conditioning . |
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patils
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Posted - 04/17/2010 : 03:25:15
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There is no conditioning although it appear like that.
What happens then ?
Any perceived threat of danger will trigger these symptoms. Even a single thought attended about threat / danger will shoot panic in all body. It has nothing to do with brain. The most important thing is you attended that thought. Because you willed to say there is Danger and result is panic. If you ignore that thought feeling of security comes immediately and there is no fear and muscles are in relaxed state.
Why you attended that thought ?
This attending a thought happens at so subtle level and happens because you feared that something is wrong or danger is there. It happens at so fast and we feel without our will it is happening and we blame our brain for this.
Any perceived danger will be put in front of our will. Now will knows only Yes or No. If will says Danger -- result is panic.
If will says no to danger -- result is relaxation.
So we are doing all this and nobody to blame.
Why you feared ?
Because you have become habitual to perception of danger and have prejudice that symptoms are real and they will worsen.
Why you worry and fear symptoms?
Because you are not accepting and only complaining.
So secret is Acceptance.
Accept- Carry on. Accept - Carry on. Accept- carry on.
Sachin
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catspine
USA
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Posted - 04/17/2010 : 11:56:47
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Patils
Please read carefully this is from the Wikipedia article you posted:
...whereas anxiety is the result of threats that are perceived to be uncontrollable or unavoidable.[3]
Anxiety is the result that 's what it says.
Threats are the cause of the tension, anxiety is not because it's the result of it .
Here' s another one :
Anxiety is considered to be a normal reaction to stress. (Same article Wikipedia you pasted in the same post).
Stress is tension at least that's what it says in the English dictionary and here again anxiety is a reaction to it not the other way around.
I 'm puzzled by the fact that you managed to get pain free 100% How did you achieve that if you don't understand what you read ? |
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Fox
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Posted - 04/19/2010 : 11:42:51
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| I think I know where the injunction came from. After I had my two level anterior fusion, during recovery, I was assigned to a PT. He made the statement that I should forget about running for the rest of my life and stick to walking. Actually, no MD ever told me that, but somehow this PT's words, I believe, still haunt my brain. |
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The power of conditioning
