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whitehead
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 Posted - 05/08/2009 : 12:52:51
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Unless I'm mistaken, Sarno lists frequent urination as one of the equivalents of TMS.
Have any of you older guys had frequent urination that proved to be a TMS equivalent? How could you distinguish it from an enlarged prostate?
I'm 59. I had the frequent urination problem first when I was 18. At 30, it began again as a I took a stressful career change. (I've have had many more TMS symptoms too, mostly 'cured' by Sarno's book and a visit to a TMS doctor.)
Anyway, suddenly, right after being released from a hospital for a 'nervous breakdown", I began to urinate VERY fequently. Later, I described the symptoms to a Nurse Practitioner who then 'checked" and said I have a mildly enlarged prostate. She prescribed medication that didn't help.
I've also tried saw palmetto -- didn't help.
Any thoughts on whether this might be TMS?
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mk6283
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Posted - 05/08/2009 : 14:37:00
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Go see a urologist. If he tells you that you have interstitial cystitis or irritable bladder syndrome, then you know that you have TMS. If the frequent urination was related to your prostate, then there would often be some other symptoms like changes in the urine stream, waking more at night to urinate, etc. Sounds like TMS to me, but its always better to play it safe. Sorry to hear about your recent troubles. Hang in there and good luck!
Best,
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Edited by - mk6283 on 05/08/2009 14:41:46 |
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missangel
USA
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Posted - 05/08/2009 : 21:59:45
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quote:
Originally posted by whitehead
Anyway, suddenly, right after being released from a hospital for a 'nervous breakdown", I began to urinate VERY fequently.
Stress (TMS) can cause blood sugar to rise in some people, in turn causing more frequent urination, because the body is working harder to flush it out. During my "nervous breakdown" my blood sugar was higher than usual (mine stays normal when less stressed), and frequent urination was definitely an issue. Just a thought... |
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mk6283
USA
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Posted - 05/09/2009 : 09:54:29
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Missangel, that is really interesting. Thanks for sharing. Diabetes can be another cause of polyuria and that shares a similar pathophysiology to the one you alluded to, but usually over a more prolonged period of time. Clearly there are many stress hormones running rampant during a "nervous breakdown", most of which increase blood glucose levels, so you're anecdote is quite believable and thought provoking. I wonder if it has ever been studied in relation to IC, i.e., pulsatile glucose aberrations as a cause of frequent urination. Very cool.
More commonly, the mechanism for frequent urination in TMS cases is attributed to aberrations in the autonomic nervous system, which plays a central role in both the urge to, and process of, urinating. The ANS is also believed to be involved in many/most other TMS syndromes. The bladder and all of its associated sphincter muscles are tightly controlled by the sympathetic/parasympathetic nervous systems, so it is not a far fetch to see how unconscious/conscious conflicts can trigger hypothalamic changes in autonomic control, leading to more frequent urination.
Certain medications can also cause frequent urination so be sure to check with your doctor.
Best,
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Edited by - mk6283 on 05/09/2009 10:13:32 |
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whitehead
USA
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Posted - 05/11/2009 : 11:35:27
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Thanks for weighing in on my question! You've given me some very plausable ideas about how TMS could be the culprit.
I think my next step is to see my TMS doctor (Shecter in L.A.), then see a urologist if he recommends it.
Another angle to this is that the insertion of a catheter can cause scarring that can mimic the symptoms of enlared prostate. When I was admitted to the hospital, on the emergency room table, they inserted a catheter without warning me that it was coming. Very painful, I begged them to stop. |
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Jeff
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Posted - 05/11/2009 : 12:58:37
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| In my case, frequent urination has been a byproduct of anxiety. During times when my anxiety level is quite high, for whatever reason (work stress, health fears, etc.), I'm always going to the bathroom. During times when I have anxiety under control, it's much more normal. I don't know if that's TMS or not, but that's been my experience. For what it's worth, once I finally accepted that there is this connection between anxiety and frequency of urination, my anxiety level went down and the problem lessened significantly. |
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whitehead
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Posted - 05/11/2009 : 14:45:02
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| Jeff -- thanks. It's good to hear your experience on this because on days that I keep telling myself it's only TMS, the frequency does seem to diminsh. |
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guys: frequent urination -- TMS equivalent?
