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pericakralj
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 Posted - 04/14/2009 : 15:56:30
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Here i am again after 2 weeks of being comleatly ok.
My case:
When i came back from my vacation about a month and half ago,my father told me that we are in large dept and that we need to cut are money leaking so we can repay that dept.Soon after that i had my first anxiety attack.I was very axious,couldt stay in one place,had strange feeling in my arms,trembling,my stomach stoped compleatly,i had feeling that i will vomit any moment,and i had constant belching.It was awfull.
But it passed in about an hour or so.Next day i was a bit more anxious but i imeediatly called my theraphyst who helped me thru my TMS problems 2 years ago,and we had great succes.2 years ago i had terrible pains all over my lower part of body,from my lower back,all the way down.It compleatly resolved in about 5 or 6 moths.When i first go to him for my anxiety attack,we had succes right away.I was 7 days like new.But i decided to keep going since i realised that i had very very large amount of stress in me.I realised many things and admited some things to me that i was supresing too many years.I am perfect example of goodist,with some traits of perfecionist.So after those 7 days of being very good,next weekend i had anxiety again but it was ,a bit smaler intesity.So after seeing him again,i had sucees again.I realised that there is nothing to be afraid ,that anxiety cant do me nothing and that it wil pass in time.
Then ,what i think happend it next.7 days after i realised that there is no reason to be afraid of anxiety my mind created a new symptom that will keep me occupied,and that will afraid me very much.I started to have stomach problems,similar,like my first night when i had my first anxiety attack.I started to feel nauseus,i felt like my stomach is not working,like i have stone i my stomach,and after that i got scared so anxiety came along too.I went to doctor and he did some test and he found that i have Helicobacer pylori.He told me that it causes ulcers and that i need to treat it with antibiotics.I was a bit scared ,but when i got home i made the biggest mistake of my life.I started to look for informations on the web about helicobacter.O my god,then i was totaly scared,they sad that its main cause of ulcers,that can make stomach cancer and that few people can never cure it.Then i felt very very anxious.I did my antibiotics therapy to kill the bacteria,altough my doc didnt know do i have ulcer or not.When i finished my therapy nothing changed.My stomach still was in some pain,but these pains very very low,more unplesant feeling then pain.And it moved around,It was a little bit in my uppper stomach,left side,then right side,theit went to my lower stomach ,again switching sides,then even go in my back,and in the area around my kidneys.
Then i was suspicious it was maybe TMS,and why did it start right now,when i had my axiety and when all problems came down.A little bit strange timing.Esspecialy,when i found that 90%of people that have this bacteria never feel any problem in their stomaches,and that there are many people that dont have this bacteria,and get ulcers.How can this be i asked my self.If bacteria is cause of ulcers,why dont everybody that harbor it dont have ulcer,and how people without it dont get them.But i couldnt find peace and went to gastro doc,who did full exam on my stomach,and he found nothing.He sad everything looked normal,and that he treats that bactery only when ulcer is present.I didnt have any sign of ulcer.When i asked him why i have pains in my stomach and why are they changing places all the time he couldnt respond.I ressumed to g oto my theraphist and after 2 or 3 seeing with him i was again ok.Little bit of stomach problems but nothnig that can keep from anything.I stoped being afarid of that bacteria and continud my life normaly.
But 4 days ago my fears returned,Since i read so much about that bacteria,and the symptoms it causes.I am very afraid of nausea,since my father,had stomach problems for 20 years.He vomited almost every day.Doctors could never find anything wrong with him.When i found about TMS 2 years ago,i knew it was tms but he dont want to listen to my theory.Finnaly he stoped vomiting couple years ago ,but now he have knee problems.LOL,SO TMS.SO i am scared to have the same problems like him.I was in constant fear of nausea,and finnaly yesterday i devoloped it.Same thing happend to me 2 years ago.When i tought that i had some nerve pinched in my perineum,i found forum that talks about that,and after a month i developed every single symptom on that forum.
So now i am scared what if this bacteria cause me an ulcer,that i will never be able to cure ,and what if i spend all my life with nausea.I know i have much bigger emotional problems lying under all this fear,but cant concetrate on them because i think of that bactera all the time and how it will ruin my life.
Anybody had nausea as tms,or stomach problems?Can ulcers be healed?Can belching be TMS?Right now i have belching,nausea,and low grade stomach pains.But never in the same time.If i feel nauseus i dont belch,or have stomach pain,and vice versa.I know it all sound like tms but i just cant convince my slf enough so i can start to work on real problems?
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Dave
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Posted - 04/14/2009 : 16:07:40
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You seem to have answered your own question halfway through your message, but then you got derailed again.
It is unfortunate that the medical community reversed course and declared H. plyori bacteria to be the "cause" of ulcers. In fact, ulcers was the one area where traditional medicine actually believed that stress was an important factor. But sure enough, science had a "breakthrough" and discovered this bacteria, and set us back.
The facts are as you have concluded: the presence of this bacteria is not necessarily the "cause" of ulcers. Assuming the bacteria does play a role, it may in fact be the "effect" of the brain messing with the chemistry in our stomach to produce TMS symptoms. Or, it may be a completely coincidental, harmless bacteria that many of us have in our stomachs yet has nothing to do with causing ulcers.
You are allowing the fear of a physiscal problem to consume your thoughts, and this is exactly the goal of TMS. You have done the prudent thing by being checked out by a gastro specialist (I assume with an upper endoscopy). If he did not find any signs of ulcer or cancer then it is safe to ignore these symptoms and treat them as TMS.
Did the doctor suggest any medication for you such as Prilosec or Pepcid? If not you may want to ask him about that, as they are effective for certain stomach issues.
I suggest you re-read Dr. Sarno's book, follow the treatment suggestions, and focus on the psychological factors that are likely causing TMS symptoms. |
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pericakralj
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Posted - 04/14/2009 : 16:59:39
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Thx for response Dave.
Yes i had upper endoscopy and nothing was found.No ulcer no cancer,no nothing.He sad that my stomach looks just a little bit irritated.When i asked him is it something serious he sad it nothing.He did gave me some medicatons,but i dont use them,and he sad that there is no need for me to come on control because i had no problem.The name of medication is rupurit.Its for reducing stomach acid. |
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missangel
USA
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Posted - 04/14/2009 : 19:06:08
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| pericakralj, nausea was one of my first signs of TMS. I also have occasional stomach problems. I tend to hold a lot of tension in my abdominal area. I notice on and off during the day that I'm tense in the stomach area and have to force myself to relax it. Tense muscles pressing on organs can't be a good thing (or at least that's how it feels to me!). |
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pericakralj
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Posted - 04/15/2009 : 06:39:59
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Mine problem is mainly fear,because my symtopms are very mild and they are not with me all the time.If somebody told me that they cant hurt me,i would live with them for the rest of my life very happely.But i am in constant fear what if i get ulcer i never heal it.
I know that sounds stupid but thats the way my brain is thinking right now. |
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missangel
USA
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Posted - 04/15/2009 : 10:54:40
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Sorry you're so fearful. My brain was thinking like that too for quite a while. Still does occasionally. I worry and "what if" things to death. What if my acid reflux turns into esophageal cancer, what if my foot never "wakes up" and I have to have it amputated, and so on. Obsessing is/was a huge problem for me and made my fear so much worse. Focusing on the psychological factors, like Dave pointed out, rather than the physical has helped me alot. Now I just obsess about TMS  |
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Dave
USA
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Posted - 04/15/2009 : 15:59:09
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Originally posted by pericakralj
If somebody told me that they cant hurt me,i would live with them for the rest of my life very happely.
BINGO.
That's it in a nutshell. TELL YOURSELF THE SYMPTOMS CANNOT HURT YOU AND LIVE WITH THEM.
Once you accept the symptom as benign, and that the underlying cause is psychological, it should start to fade.
The doctor told you nothing is wrong. So why the fear? Because TMS still has a grip on you. The fear distracts you from the underlying emotional issues that are causing your TMS. You need to address them. |
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pericakralj
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Posted - 04/15/2009 : 16:54:42
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Thx for response.
Dave,i really appreciate your post,and it means so much.
I was at my theraphyst an hour ago and he sad something like that.
I told him that maybe i will develop ulcer one day,and that H.pylori maybe isnt cured and that maybe she can one day cause me trouble,thats what i am afraid of.He told me that My troubles startded when i was under a lot of stress,first it was anxiety and when it lost its power over me then came the stomach trouble.He sad that bacteria was in my body for probably very long time,and that its almost imposiable that i got infected,the next day when my anxiety faded away.Plus,nobody ever proved that that bacteria is causing ulcer,
(the guy who found it drunk it to prove that that is the cause,and he never developed ulcer),they are just assuming.Next he sad,even though i have almost no chance to get ulcer and since my doctor examened me and all is ok,if i do get it some day,i will cure it and continue normal life.Many people get ulcers and cure them,he sad.Its not logical to worry about what may happen in the future.Its like i worry about every day will i be hit by a car next time i leave my building.
So, i am much more relaxed now and my fear is compleatly gone ,so i am ready to face my very large amount of unplesent emotions. |
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