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 Should every pain be TMS? Or can it be real?
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skuba

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Posted - 03/09/2009 :  11:49:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
I know the title seems confusing. So let me explain.

I did read 2 of Sarno's books and I do accept that TMS is responsible for pain I have in my chest area as well as skin dermatitis. I am definitely an anxious person and have been in psychotherapy for 4 years.

But last week my knee started hurting and I did have a sprain 3 years ago while snowboarding. At that time I did a lot of physical therapy and got better after getting a cortisone shot. Seems like the pain is back now.

It occurs only on a specific twist movement of my knee. My first instinct is go to the physical therapy place. But then I think, could it just be TMS?

The pain only happens in 1 specific twist movement like I said, could it not be TMS and be an actual structure problem?

What do you guys suggest? Is it all TMS all the time, or there are cases that it isn't?

Thanks

marsha

252 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2009 :  12:09:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sounds like TMS to me. Injuries heal.
I would check out chest pains with my doctor . Wouldn't want to make a guess on that.
No one on this forum can diagnose your conditions. You will have to make that determination on your own.
Keep reading..
Marsha
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tcherie

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Posted - 03/09/2009 :  12:24:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In my opinion you have to look at each situation on a case-by-case basis. But a sprain should heal and be fine. It is also strange that it is bothering you again after 3 years. That is suspicious in itself.
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skuba

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Posted - 03/09/2009 :  12:33:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As far as the chest. I am not just deciding it's TMS. I have before been to regular doctor, orthopedist, physical therapy, rheumatologist, and none of them know what's going on. Have done x-ray and mri and does't show anything.

So, TMS can produce pain only in specific movements? I thought they were more on-going pain. Not that it's present all the time, but when it's hurting, it's hurting. My knee hurts if twisted in one direction.

I just wonder if I should go see a doctor, or treat for TMS first.
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mizlorinj

USA
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Posted - 03/09/2009 :  13:34:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

I did get pain when I went through certain motions. One I can recall was like someone stabbing me in the middle of my right butt cheek whenever I got mid-way up from the, um, throne. (I wasn't able to sit anywhere). Then it moved to my back and other places and was pretty much constant. And it was certainly very real pain.

So yes, it can be TMS pain even if it only happens when you do certain things.

TMS docs would say the sprain from 3 years ago has healed and is not causing you pain.

-L


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Dave

USA
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Posted - 03/10/2009 :  15:53:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by skuba
But last week my knee started hurting and I did have a sprain 3 years ago while snowboarding.

I suggest you re-read Dr. Sarno and focus on the aspects of conditioning and healing from injuries.

If you had done structural damage to your knee it is highly unlikely that the pain would disappear for 2+ years. Thus it seems your body healed completely from that injury.

Now that you are starting to accept the TMS concept, the brain is 'upping the ante' and giving you different symptoms that are more likely to distract you. So it picks on old locations of injury. As you can see it is very effective since your first instinct is to assume it is a structural problem and to go for physical therapy. The brain has succeeded in getting you to focus on the pain and treat it as a physical problem.

The key is to recognize this and laugh about it and say "a ha" to yourself and go about your life. Over time your first instinct will be to think about what psychological issues are triggering your symptoms, rather than what old injuries might have resurfaced.
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